SUV Runs over biker in NYC

[HawkMan]

I think the actions taken here go far beyond what is acceptable for police work.

 

When you're undercover, what's acceptable as police work isn't and shouldn't be your primary concern, it'll get you dead, fast. especially in a biker gang environment. 

[Growled Member]

I'm much more concerned about this:

 

 

As many as five other off-duty police officers may have been riding with the hundreds of motorcyclists who flooded Manhattan on Sept. 29 as part of an annual biker event called Hollywood Stuntz.

 

They should have stepped in and stopped this.

[HawkMan]

I'm much more concerned about this:

 

 

They should have stepped in and stopped this.

 

How ? they where in the ride, but only one of them appears to have been close to, aware of and part of the attack. and even then they still have their cover they have to protect. And chances are the different undercover cops are not aware of each other as well. 

[Growled Member]

How ? they where in the ride, but only one of them appears to have been close to, aware of and part of the attack. and even then they still have their cover they have to protect. And chances are the different undercover cops are not aware of each other as well. 

 

These 5 weren't undercover but just off duty. And 3 undercover cops?  With that many cops around this should have never happened.

[HawkMan]

These 5 weren't undercover but just off duty. And 3 undercover cops?  With that many cops around this should have never happened.

 

And again, there was HUNDREDS, of bikers, these off duty cops where not part of or near this event. how could they prevent something they didn't know about ? and again, they probably didn't know about each other so even if one of them witnessed it what was he to do ? break up a biker gang of 50+ by himself ? even if all 5 of them was there together, knew of each other and worked together, that's an unlikely scenario. 

[FlintyV]

And again, there was HUNDREDS, of bikers, these off duty cops where not part of or near this event. how could they prevent something they didn't know about ? and again, they probably didn't know about each other so even if one of them witnessed it what was he to do ? break up a biker gang of 50+ by himself ? even if all 5 of them was there together, knew of each other and worked together, that's an unlikely scenario. 

 

http://nypost.com/2013/10/07/bike-cop-joined-in-on-suv-beatdown-video-reveals/

 

Also

 

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/08/20870446-undercover-cop-seen-on-video-attacking-suv?chromedomain=insidedateline

 

Is the NYPost like the DailyMail?

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

Is the NYPost like the DailyMail?

If I understand the DailyMail correctly, which I believe I do based on the comments made over the years here, no, it is not like it at all.

It is a regular Newspaper. Some in the area will say it is garbage from a regular newspaper standpoint, but it is not a gossip newspaper, etc.

 

Funny to see how this is getting worldwide attention. A friend of mine actually posted the initial video that is getting all of the attention upwards of 2 days before it even hit the news here, and plenty of people had something to say about it on Facebook even then.

 

Here is the deal from the perspective of someone who lives approximately 30 miles from where this happened, and who still has friends and family who live in the area where it happened...

 

Apparently these "bikers," and I put that term in quotes as it does insult actual real, law abiding bikers, are in essence a gang. They drive like *******s all the time, have no respect for the laws of the road whatsoever, and are generally made up of criminals and convicts. Yes, it is a dangerous thing to group such a large group of people into one negative category, but there is a reason there were undercover cops with them. They conduct criminal activity, are looked at by law enforcement as a potential criminal organization (I have friends who are in law enforcement in the surrounding area in NJ), and should be viewed as such.

 

Bottom line. They had ZERO good intentions. 

[Neowinuser1991]

Seems like a over reaction of both parties.

[RageOfFury]

Does anyone know if the driver, his wife and child are ok?

 

I'm beyond ###### off at those gangbanging bikers right now. Grrr!! :angry: :angry:

[webeagle12]

And again, there was HUNDREDS, of bikers, these off duty cops where not part of or near this event. how could they prevent something they didn't know about ? and again, they probably didn't know about each other so even if one of them witnessed it what was he to do ? break up a biker gang of 50+ by himself ? even if all 5 of them was there together, knew of each other and worked together, that's an unlikely scenario. 

 

 seriously, did you even bother reading news article that was posted on same page....

[webeagle12]

Detective Arrested in Biker Case

 

An undercover New York Police Department detective was arrested Tuesday for his alleged connection to the assault of a Credit Suisse vice president after the victim was chased by motorcyclists through Manhattan, law-enforcement officials said.

 

Det. Wojciech Braszczok, 32 years old, was charged by police with riot and criminal mischief. He was waiting to be arraigned in court Tuesday evening.

Mr. Braszczok was allegedly off-duty and among the bikers seen on a video pounding on a Range Rover containing victim Alexian Lien, 33, his wife, and his 2-year-old daughter, according to a law-enforcement official familiar with the investigation.

 

The detective can allegedly be seen on one video recording striking and breaking the SUV's hatchback window, contradicting what he previously told NYPD Internal Affairs Bureau investigators about his involvement in the altercation, said the official, who wasn't authorized to talk about the case and was speaking on the condition of anonymity.

 

IAB investigators want to add additional charges against Mr. Braszczok and prosecutors are trying to determine if the evidence was there to support the charges, the official said.

The video, which hasn't been made public, allegedly shows the detective breaking the window during the Sept. 29 incident, where Mr. Lien was dragged from the driver's seat and beaten, the official said.

 

The attack followed a vehicular chase along Manhattan's West Side, set off when Mr. Lien's vehicle struck one of several motorcyclists who had swarmed his Range Rover on the Henry Hudson Parkway.

Most of the chase was captured on a biker's helmet camera. That video is separate from the video allegedly depicting the detective.

 

Mr. Braszczok relieved his union-appointed attorney from the Detectives Endowment Association on Tuesday and hired lawyer John Arlia, union officials said. Mr. Arlia could not immediately be reached for comment.

Union President Michael Palladino said, "I'm going to withhold any comment at this time."

 

During an interview on Monday, union attorney Philip Karasyk said Mr. Braszczok told investigators that he didn't see the beating.

"He obviously misled the union and his attorneys," a person with knowledge of the investigation said.

 

Mr. Braszczok is a 10-year police veteran and has been a detective for five years. He recently began working in the intelligence division.

He was suspended without pay upon his arrest.

 

Four people have been charged in the chase and assault. Craig Wright, 29 years old, was arraigned on Tuesday and pleaded not guilty to charges including gang assault.

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303442004579123860978924356.html

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These guys should all have their licenses revoked, motorbikes taken away, and not allowed back on any road ever again, even on a bicycle.

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NYPD detective faces charges after video shows he pounded on SUV (+video)

The off-duty detective initially told his superiors he was not involved in the motorcyclists' attack on the SUV, but a video showed him pounding the rear of the car before leaving the scene.

An off-duty undercover New York Police Department detective has turned himself in to face charges after video showed him pounding on an SUV at the center of a bloody road rage incident between the SUV driver and a band of motorcyclists on New York City?s Westside Highway.