Duck Dynasty Star Banned Indefinitely for Anti-Gay Comments

[thomastmc]

Snaphat

I like how you completely twisted everything I said to fit your opinion. Don't ever try that with me again.

Never said what my opinion on what he said was but you implied I did. I don't agree with his beliefs. I could care less who anyone is with. If they are in love and "happy, happy, happy", more power to them.

I like how you tried to imply that I am gay when I'm not. I'm married to a woman and have a 4 year old son. I brought up my gay nephews and one atheist friend to show that not only straight Christians are the ones complaining. One of the nephews is also an atheist.

Won't waste anymore of this post on you. Don't ever twist my words again.

 

LMFAO :rofl:

[seta-san]

good point. But he was talking from personal experiences. It wasn't a statement of hate... Just profound ignorance.

Perhaps, but A&E has every right to suspend him for claiming blacks were happy pre-civil rights. He called it the pre-entitlement, pre-welfare period. And that he never saw a black person mistreated. They used to sing, were happy happy happy, and never got (sang) the blues.

Forget the gay talk. He completely whitewashed Jim Crow laws in that interview.

[snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member]

LMFAO :rofl:

 

His was a pretty grand response :D I did a double take and then had to go back to see the pure gold that I wrote... I was rather disappointed when I found out I wasn't nearly so clever as he made me out to be :/

[jesseinsf]

So what should they do about Justine Sacco who got fired from her job for what she tweeted about in her off time. You guys say 1st Ammendment. So if Phil gets to be reinstated then should Justine Sacco also get her job back?

 

 

http://news.msn.com/world/pr-exec-loses-job-after-twitter-post-about-aids

[jesseinsf]

good point. But he was talking from personal experiences. It wasn't a statement of hate... Just profound ignorance.

 

Nacissists are extremely great at putting words together. In this case he speaks for God as if he is a Prophet. It's kinda like using a 3rd party to express your hatred. It's not you saying it, it's the 3rd party saying it. So I think he should never come back for the reason that he made his God the hater and agrees with his God. He's a very clever Narcissist.

[thomastmc]

So what should they do about Justine Sacco who got fired from her job for what she tweeted about in her off time. You guys say 1st Ammendment. So if Phil gets to be reinstated then should Justine Sacco also get her job back?

 

 

http://news.msn.com/world/pr-exec-loses-job-after-twitter-post-about-aids

 

It was funny :)

 

She's not a comedian though, and it could be offensive to some people, both black and white. She's not just a janitor or an ad executive either, she's the PR person. Not a smart move.

 

It wouldn't necessarily be my call, but firing her for that comment isn't unreasonable at all.

 

BTW, there is no "first amendment" that says that you can say whatever you think and not be fired for it.

 

BTW, BTW, I do think the Duck Dynasty guy should have lost his show, unequivocally.

Edited December 22, 2013 by thomastmc

[jesseinsf]

It was funny :)

 

She's not a comedian though, and it could be offensive to some people, both black and white. She's not just a janitor or an ad executive either, she's the PR person. Not a smart move.

 

It wouldn't necessarily be my call, but firing her for that comment isn't unreasonable at all.

 

BTW, there is no "first amendment" that says that you can say whatever you think and not be fired for it.

So what he says "His God" says about Homosexuality leading to Beastiality and then agreeing with His so called God is right?

[trag3dy]

So what he says "His God" says about Homosexuality leading to Beastiality and then agreeing with His so called God is right?

 

Sure. Except for he never said that homosexuality leads to bestiality.

[jesseinsf]

Sure. Except for he never said that homosexuality leads to bestiality.

I'm sorry, he was compairing the 2. And did you see this video?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertson-homophobic-2010-sermon_n_4475546.html

[thomastmc]

So what he says "His God" says about Homosexuality leading to Beastiality and then agreeing with His so called God is right?

 

No, sorry. I realized that what I said could obviously be misinterpreted. I updated it, but I didn't realize you'd already replied.

 

It's not alright in the least, and he should absolutely have been fired.

[macrosslover]

there's a difference.  If he said I can't get AIDS because I'm straight then that would be similar to what she said.  However freedom of speech only really protects you freedom to speak against the government that's it.  The 1st amendment doesn't mean I can say whatever the hell I want with no consequence.  The way the laws are written you could commit a crime by what you say to an individual person where you could say the same thing to the "government" and be protected by the 1st amendment.

 

She deserved punishment for her statements because they were flat out racist and ignorant.  It's not like there's no white people with AIDS /s

So what should they do about Justine Sacco who got fired from her job for what she tweeted about in her off time. You guys say 1st Ammendment. So if Phil gets to be reinstated then should Justine Sacco also get her job back?

 

 

http://news.msn.com/world/pr-exec-loses-job-after-twitter-post-about-aids

[rfirth]

there's a difference.  If he said I can't get AIDS because I'm straight then that would be similar to what she said.

 

There is no difference. He said blacks were happy pre-civil rights and never sang the blues. Is that a factually correct statement?

The only difference is that Justine Sacco was joking. Phil Robertson was dead serious.

 

Both deserve punishment.

[guru]

There is no difference. He said blacks were happy pre-civil rights and never sang the blues. Is that a factually correct statement?

The only difference is that Justine Sacco was joking. Phil Robertson was dead serious.

 

Both deserve punishment.

yes Mr. Kim Jon un, They should be sent to reeducation camp :rolleyes:

 

I'm glad Americans have joblessness back to pre recession levels, brought economy back on track, fixed a broken healthcare law, rolled back police state tactics of the government that a  67 year old grand pa's views on homosexuality is news  :/

[snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member]

yes Mr. Kim Jon un, They should be sent to reeducation camp  :rolleyes:

 

That's a bad joke, you now deserve punishment also.

[trag3dy]

I'm sorry, he was compairing the 2. And did you see this video?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertson-homophobic-2010-sermon_n_4475546.html

 

How was he comparing the two? And no I didn't see that video. I don't care about this guy enough (or at all) to try to track down every naughty little thing he's ever said.

 

In reference to this thread and article it's about, this is what he said and I don't see any comparisons being made:

 

?Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,?

[Rippleman]

How was he comparing the two? And no I didn't see that video. I don't care about this guy enough (or at all) to try to track down every naughty little thing he's ever said.

 

In reference to this thread and article it's about, this is what he said and I don't see any comparisons being made:

 

?Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,?

the way i read it, he is saying they are equal in terms

[snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member]

the way i read it, he is saying they are equal in terms

 

The way I read it, it sounds like he is saying there is a slippery slope leading from homosexuality to bestiality.

 

EDIT: fyi, the slope is Mario Kart's Rainbow road.

[trag3dy]

the way i read it, he is saying they are equal in terms

 

I can see that but not knowing the game and only going by the article I don't think that's what he was saying at all.

 

I think he's saying that, from a Christian stand point, if homosexuality is okay, then what's next? Bestiality? He's saying as a christian if we allow this one thing that is not good then eventually this other thing that is worse will start to be okay.

 

I'm not saying that's my view point I'm just saying that's what I take from reading that sentence. Notice that he says sleeping around with women after bestiality? He gives that offense just as much weight as he does homosexuality.

[snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member]

I can see that but not knowing the game and only going by the article I don't think that's what he was saying at all.

 

I think he's saying that, from a Christian stand point, if homosexuality is okay, then what's next? Bestiality? He's saying as a christian if we allow this one thing that is not good then eventually this other thing that is worse will start to be okay.

 

I'm not saying that's my view point I'm just saying that's what I take from reading that sentence. Notice that he says sleeping around with women after bestiality? He gives that offense just as much weight as he does homosexuality.

 

Didn't you say a few posts ago that he never said homosexuality leads to bestiality?

[trag3dy]

Didn't you say a few posts ago that he never said homosexuality leads to bestiality?

 

Yes? Because he didn't? He never said "sorry all you gay people out there, eventually animals are gonna be your thing". All he said is that if one bad sin is okay, then eventually people will accept that another completely unrelated bad sin will be okay.

 

Though maybe I could have worded that post a little better???

[snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member]

Yes? Because he didn't? He never said "sorry all you gay people out there, eventually animals are gonna be your thing". All he said is that if one bad sin is okay, then eventually people will accept that another completely unrelated bad sin will be okay.

 

Though maybe I could have worded that post a little better???

 

Well you just said the opposite viewpoint in your previous post -- that he said if we allow homosexuality, it leads down the path to bestiality being okay. (I bolded the part in my last post)  :laugh:

[trag3dy]

Well you just said the opposite viewpoint in your previous post -- that he said if we allow homosexuality, it leads down the path to bestiality being okay. (I bolded the part in my last post)  :laugh:

 

If that's how you want to read it then I can't change that. Granted I could have worded it better, though.

[jesseinsf]

How was he comparing the two? And no I didn't see that video. I don't care about this guy enough (or at all) to try to track down every naughty little thing he's ever said.

 

In reference to this thread and article it's about, this is what he said and I don't see any comparisons being made:

 

?Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,?

That Video was on the front page of many news sites. So, tracking it down? Not us reader. We leave it up to all those reporters to do it for us. :-P

[seta-san]

[seta-san]

Nacissists are extremely great at putting words together. In this case he speaks for God as if he is a Prophet. It's kinda like using a 3rd party to express your hatred. It's not you saying it, it's the 3rd party saying it. So I think he should never come back for the reason that he made his God the hater and agrees with his God. He's a very clever Narcissist.

 

 

It's the teaching of the bible. If you're a Christian your bound by the book. The bible isn't an exceptionally tolerant or open minded book. But the first amendment combined with protected classes allows you to have those views without being punished by either the government or your employer.