Draggendrop Veteran Posted December 27, 2015 Veteran Share Posted December 27, 2015 9 hours ago, Beittil said: What would they do with a 1.1 in case it was recovered succesfully? I mean, this was supposed to be the last 1.1 anyway. In my opinion, I could see a number of uses...(if landed) 1) if they land this one, analysis of the stage for general re-usability knowledge base.....the data would be pertinent to the launch profiles and wear associated with it. 2) the unit could be used for testing purposes, further down the road. These tests could be clamped down and fired, or could be used for launching a test apparatus. 3) could be used to test software on and for existing 1.1 equipment or swapped full thrust test items. 4) refurbish and use on a "throw away profile" 5) would make a great display piece 6) down the road..."You know...we could use that core for this...." type of situation. Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsItPluggedIn Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Also my understanding is that a large portion of the components are the same, so they could break it down and use in the next FT version, ie just pull the engines out. Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) d No word yet. The F9R Dev-2 (also a v1.1) that was supposed to fly at SpacePort America is to be used for the Dragon 2 in-flight abort test after the first uncrewed Dragon 2 test flight to ISS, so that's out. The first re-used core for a commercial launch is likely to be the F9 FT used for SES-9 - SES has called dibs on it and they want to be first to refly. Bigtime. A wild-ass Dragon 2 experiment of some kind? Possible. Hart to tell with these guys as they don't push the envelope, they shove the living hell out of the damned thing. Draggendrop and Unobscured Vision 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 4, 2016 Veteran Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) This is the FCC application for west coast barge availability.... https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=initial&application_seq=69074&RequestTimeout=1000 Doc will know more, but heard a rumour that Jason 3 may be a RTLS, due to light payload, and barge as back-up...I, myself, have no idea! Here is an East coast FCC application for barge use, ready for SES and beyond...again, I have no idea! appears SES-9, NET 23 January 2016, need to verify. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=initial&application_seq=69076&RequestTimeout=1000 Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Jason 3's ASDS stage landing coordinates will be 32°07'44.0" N, 120°46'43.0" W No land landing because there's a big work tent sitting in the middle of the SLC-4W landing pad. Draggendrop and Unobscured Vision 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 5, 2016 Veteran Share Posted January 5, 2016 Reading a few comments on that twitter feed, revealed that Chris said, to one comment, that a large SpaceX logo is under the "tent". Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Theres more going on there. The west coast ASDS is going out for Jason 3. FAA already allocated the radio frequencies. Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobscured Vision Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I'm always nervous about ASDS landing attempts. We know the S1 can hit the mark, it's the ASDS capsizing that I'm worried about, or getting off-kilter and the S1 overcooking the thrusters to compensate and then it appearing that the landing went badly. Ah well. We'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 ASDS is a deep sea cargo barge at heart, and when ballasted it weighs hundreds of tonnes. It's not going to be capsized by anything short of a hurricane. Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 6, 2016 Veteran Share Posted January 6, 2016 The control system has been refined quite a bit, judging by last landing. IMO, if wave action and wind velocity are reasonable...they have a good shot. The barge may be heavy, but she's still a small boat when talking ocean conditions ( I've spent time on a destroyer, any size is too small out there when mother nature gets irritable). IMO, the control system should be able to ignore the barge's slight pitch and roll and use on board stabilization for a modified slope to a GPS approach. I am happy that it's a barge landing. Have to get this under their belt. Just a note...FCC ground frequencies have been allotted to a 6 month block, if used or not. The launch vehicle communications are covered by NASA...allotted to NASA and/or contractor use, for this mission. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=initial&application_seq=69074&RequestTimeout=1000 Wonder if they are pouring a pad and routing utilities for lighting and camera use, or what not.... Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 8, 2016 Veteran Share Posted January 8, 2016 or... Jason-3 Flight Readiness Review and Encapsulation Tomorrow; Static Fire Planned for Saturday Quote The first full week of 2016 has been a busy one for teams preparing NASA’s Jason-3 spacecraft for its upcoming launch aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The Earth-observing satellite is scheduled to be sealed inside the rocket’s protective payload fairing tomorrow as launch and mission managers convene for the Flight Readiness Review. A static fire to test the Falcon 9’s first stage is planned for Saturday, Jan. 9, followed by mating of the spacecraft and payload fairing to the rocket on Jan. 12. Steady El Nino rain on California’s central coast has made work challenging at Space Launch Complex 4 throughout the past four days, but launch remains scheduled for Sunday, Jan. 17 at 10:42:18 a.m. PST. https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/2016/01/07/jason-3-flight-readiness-review-and-encapsulation-tomorrow-static-fire-planned-for-saturday/? Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 The static fire is now Sundat, January 10 Vandenberg has had heavy rains, with some areas a mud bowl. Draggendrop and Unobscured Vision 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DocM Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Lars Blackmore is SpaceX's Principal Rocket Landing Engineer, formerly of NASA and co-author of the G-FOLD precision landing code. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/Features/gfold_tests.html https://twitter.com/larsblackmore/status/685259250369601537 Quote @larsblackmore Now, let's nail a droneship landing! Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 9, 2016 Veteran Share Posted January 9, 2016 Rainbow at Vandenberg Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobscured Vision Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Hopefully it's a good omen. Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 9, 2016 Veteran Share Posted January 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Unobscured Vision said: Hopefully it's a good omen. Yes, and the other end is on the barge.... Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Per NSF & L2 Rollout is happening now for tomorrow's F9 FT static fire. This static fire will be longer than the usual ~3 seconds because of the the delay since it was at McGregor. Draggendrop and Unobscured Vision 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 12, 2016 Veteran Share Posted January 12, 2016 from above link... Quote When we hear of ignition I'll pass it on into here. Also then remember that the data review needs to be good and then they go into the LRR. Edit: Going through the window. Rocket is loaded but is being a bit naughty. Still trying. « Last Edit: Today at 11:46 PM by Chris Bergin » http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39140.msg1473257#msg1473257 Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 12, 2016 Veteran Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Quote paceX @SpaceX 2m2 minutes ago Full-duration static fire complete at our California pad. Preliminary data looks good in advance of Jason-3 launch. http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39140.msg1473257#msg1473257 SpaceX Falcon 9 Static Fire Complete for Jason-3 Quote At Space Launch Complex 4 on Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, the static test fire of the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket for the upcoming Jason-3 launch was completed Monday at 5:35 p.m. PST, 8:35 p.m. EST. The first stage engines fired for the planned full duration of 7 seconds. The initial review of the data appears to show a satisfactory test, but will be followed by a more thorough data review on Tuesday. With this test complete, the next step in prelaunch preparations is to mate the rocket and the Jason-3 spacecraft, which is encapsulated in the payload fairing. This also is planned to occur as soon as Tuesday. https://blogs.nasa.gov/jason-3/?linkId=20283012 Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Yup, gonna be a helluva weekend. Chill some brews, make nachos, fire up the 56", ahhhh.... Unobscured Vision and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 12, 2016 Veteran Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hold-down firing completed ahead of Sunday’s Falcon 9 launch Nine Merlin engines on the Falcon 9’s first stage fired up Monday for a static fire test at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. Credit: SpaceX Quote SpaceX’s launch team ran through a traditional preflight test Monday, putting a Falcon 9 rocket through a mock countdown, loading it with a supply of liquid propellant and briefly firing its engines on a launch pad in California ahead of this weekend’s liftoff with a U.S.-European oceanography satellite. The first stage booster’s nine Merlin 1D engines ignited at 8:35 p.m. EST Monday (0135 GMT Tuesday) while hold-down devices kept the rocket firmly on the ground at Vandenberg Air Force Base on California’s Central Coast. The engines fired for approximately seven seconds, according to NASA, which is managing the launch of the Jason 3 ocean research satellite. “The initial review of the data appears to show a satisfactory test, but will be followed by a more thorough data review on Tuesday,” NASA said in a statement. SpaceX ground crews planned to return the Falcon 9 rocket to its hangar near the launch pad for final flight preparations. The Jason 3 spacecraft is already enclosed inside the Falcon 9 rocket’s payload fairing and will be attached to the launcher’s second stage as soon as Tuesday, according to NASA. A launch readiness review is scheduled for Friday to give the final formal go-ahead to start the Falcon 9 countdown leading toward liftoff at 1:42:18 p.m. EST Sunday (10:42:18 a.m. PST; 1842:18 GMT). The Falcon 9’s second stage will deliver the 1,124-pound (510-kilogram) Jason 3 satellite into an orbit about 840 miles (1,354 kilometers) above Earth, and the rocket’s first stage will aim for a vertical rocket-assisted touchdown on a landing barge positioned in the Pacific Ocean south of Vandenberg. Jason 3’s launch was scheduled for August, but the failure of a Falcon 9 rocket in June 2015 grounded the mission until January. The flight will be the final launch of the Falcon 9 v1.1 rocket configuration, which SpaceX is replacing with an upgraded model capable of hauling 30 percent more mass into orbit. The first launch of the new version of the Falcon 9, which features chilled, densified propellants, higher-thrust engines and larger fuel tanks, successfully put 11 small satellites into low Earth orbit after a launch from Cape Canaveral on Dec. 21. The Jason 3 mission is a joint project between NOAA, the European weather satellite agency Eumetsat, and the French space agency CNES. It replaces the Jason 2 satellite launched in June 2008. Jason 3 carries a radar altimeter to measure the height of ocean waves and global sea level changes, supplying data to aid forecasters predicting the development of tropical cyclones and research scientists studying climate change. The mission costs about $365 million at current economic conditions, divided between NOAA, Eumetsat, the European Commission and CNES. http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/01/12/hold-down-firing-completed-ahead-of-sundays-falcon-9-launch/ Press kit...NOAA http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/jason-3/press.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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