[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

[PGHammer]

OK, apart from some dodgy WindowsFX borrows, ad the beginnings of the "Activity Center", what's new?

What are you referring to - the new animations (mentioned earlier) or other things?  The animations were present elsewhere before WindowFX had them - I had seen them outside of Windows (specifically Compiz) before - as long as something isn't trademarked or otherwise *protected* (and compiz is not, due to the GPL license), copying would be permissible.  I saw my first of the new animations upon starting IE - and it's one of those most wished for since Vista (if not XP) - Vanishing Point.

One other thing I've noticed in this new build, which they talked about on the front page news, if you click on the eithernet icon in the systrey you're taken to the PC settings networking section, no flyout side window like before.  Though after you click on your Ethernet connection in PC settings you're taken to a blank page, guess they haven't added in the options to that yet that you find if you go through control panel etc.

You can open the flyout from there and change settings from the flyout, as you could in 8+.

[Dot Matrix]

Nice to see the Wireless connections open in the PC Settings app. I know this will change, but glad to see Microsoft work their way over to this instead of the Control Panel.

[adrynalyne]

Nice to see the Wireless connections open in the PC Settings app. I know this will change, but glad to see Microsoft work their way over to this instead of the Control Panel.

Because we need two control panels.

[Josh the Nerd]

Apparently build-to-build upgrades aren't supported on Windows to Go drives. :/

[neo158]

Has anyone noticed the zPC Settings in the Start Menu, looks like Microsoft are finally depreciating the old Control Panel in favour of PC Settings. It seems to contain most of the items from the Control Panel.

[Dot Matrix]

Has anyone noticed the zPC Settings in the Start Menu, looks like Microsoft are finally depreciating the old Control Panel in favour of PC Settings. It seems to contain most of the items from the Control Panel.

All I can say is, I hope the door doesn't smack the Control Panel on the way out.

[PGHammer]

Because we need two control panels.

Why?  (Yes - I'm "heart-attack" serious.)

 

Is it because we're USED to looking for things there (tradition)?

 

Being as both now display windowed, it certainly isn't about navigation, or even mousability - I have zero issues navigating PC settings with a mouse, and even fewer issues with a trackpad.  (That is, in fact, entirely due to both better support for trackpads in general in the Technical Preview, and ModernUI's larger landing zones for pointers - which both trackpads AND mice benefit from.)

 

What I'm actively hoping is that PC Settings takes some cues from Server Manager (Windows Server 2008 and later).  Server Manager IS gradually replacing Control Panel on the server side of Windows - like PC Settings, Server Manager didn't throw mice under the bus - and it is also trackpad-friendly.  While there are still portable servers, there aren't THAT many where you would expect trackpad-friendliness out of a server-only feature - yet Server Manager is far friendlier to trackpads than is expected.  If (and I haven't tested it for this in 2012R2) Server Manager is also touch-friendly, then we REALLY have to rethink the question of the why of it - as touch isn't exactly commonplace in the server closet.

[Dot Matrix]

Why?  (Yes - I'm "heart-attack" serious.)

I think he was being sarcastic. We don't need two control panels.

[Mugwump00]

Horrific reboot times, anyone..? :/

[+Zlip792 MVC]

With 4 MB, two times faced error.. WTH!!! Really irritated right now. + 2 AM here

[neo158]

Horrific reboot times, anyone..? :/

 

Tech Preview with debug code switched on :rolleyes:

[TDT]

Horrific reboot times, anyone..? :/

Yeap. For me, it takes about 1 minute or more from the moment I click on restart till it actually restarts. Also, boot into Win takes much more than 8.1, but I guess it's normal for a TP...

[Ice_Blue]

Interesting stuff in C:\RecoveryImage, including an ESD file, and a dire warning.

[Mugwump00]

5 mins+ on reboot/shutdown.  Boot is sweet.

 

"Debug code" - got proof?  Wouldn't this be a 'Free build'?

[TDT]

Interesting stuff in C:\RecoveryImage, including an ESD file, and a dire warning.

So we can't delete that? At least can we remove the Windows.old folder? :huh:

[Ice_Blue]

So we can't delete that? At least can we remove the Windows.old folder? :huh:

 

Sure. Disk Cleanup will do it if selected in the "Clean up System Files" option.

[neufuse Veteran]

5 mins+ on reboot/shutdown.  Boot is sweet.

 

"Debug code" - got proof?  Wouldn't this be a 'Free build'?

 

There is debug code turned on in all the preview builds, it's been this way for windows for ever..

 

Check builds only include extra symbols for developers to know what happened when there is an exception or breakpoint set. Symbols != debug code, it's only an explanation of what the code looks like for debuggers when it's code run is broke or something throws an exception that it needs extra info for (symbolic links, references, etc)

[coth]

Is there any way to change Metro selection color from ugly purple to something else maintaining windows sky blue?

[nosense]

5 mins+ on reboot/shutdown.  Boot is sweet.

 

"Debug code" - got proof?  Wouldn't this be a 'Free build'?

My boot and restart is pretty quick, not as fast as 8.1. But it's pretty quick. Boot up is around 6-8 secs and shut down around 10-15. Running samsumg 840 pro.

[Dot Matrix]

Is there any way to change Metro selection color from ugly purple to something else maintaining windows sky blue?

I was able to change colors after enabling the Start Screen, and going through the Settings charm as you would in Windows 8. I think for right now, those settings are still limited until Microsoft finalizes Windows 10.

[coth]

Me as well. But once you switch back to desktop mode purple gets restored.

[timster]

http://fg.v4.sh.dl.ws.microsoft.com/dl/content/c/updt/2014/10/9860.0.141008-2044.fbl_release_clientpro_ret_x64fre_en-us_890f9c77dfdd9d3e7e9ac46e18fa7f4dd7b105d1.esd?P1=1413926810&P2=101&P3=1&P4=jfPbimcxH3r%2bJZY3GhRoO4kKWUc%3d

 

can this .esd be used for offline install?

You should be able to create an ISO from the ESD but don't have the details right now.

 

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/53855-Windows-8-1-with-Update-ESDs-Repository#a3 .. click on 'Show' to see all the step involved.

[Dot Matrix]

Lol. "Windows Defender for great justice!*"

 

[George P Global Moderator]

I just noticed that, looks like they're working on adding more and more stuff into PC settings, once it has everything, even the more advanced stuff I hope, then they'll probably work control panel out of the OS.  

[wahoospa]

This is what I did to get the new download. Before I kept getting the error 0x80246017.