[Official] The Orville

[Jazmac]

33 minutes ago, FloatingFatMan said:

I concur! Wow... just.. wow! Wasn't expecting THAT curveball!!

 

Aside: Was that really Gordon's singing voice?

 

I didn't see that coming and I was looking the whole time. . It just got real for them. They are out of radio range of the Union so they won't see it coming. I can't believe that all this time Issac was a trojan horse, or is it? It was odd that with all those Kaylon with the same look, for the most part, Clair was able to pick Issaic from among them. Was it just the color of his light?

No chairs on Kaylon eh?  

Finally, I doubt Gordon is singing.

[LOC Veteran]

Maybe this will be the way the Union and the Krill come together to fight a common enemy? Because if the Kaylon are truly doing what they say they are doing - it'd be in the interest of every biological to join together and fight them. And yeah, I actually don't like that Isaac turned out to be a trojan horse basically (or is heeeeee?) since I kinda liked him a lot to be honest. Not to mention I don't like how the Kaylon went from a tech based artificial lifeform to basically the Flood from Halo or the Reapers from Mass Effect IE bent on eliminating biologic lifeforms because they are a threat to them and they have to expand now and cooperation is impossible (to them at least we all know in the end the Union is the Federation and they'd make peace with whomever it is) etc etc. But hey, hopefully this drives viewership up and keeps the show going for a S3 because man its not looking good ratings wise sadly

[Jazmac]

1 hour ago, LOC said:

Maybe this will be the way the Union and the Krill come together to fight a common enemy? Because if the Kaylon are truly doing what they say they are doing - it'd be in the interest of every biological to join together and fight them. And yeah, I actually don't like that Isaac turned out to be a trojan horse basically (or is heeeeee?) since I kinda liked him a lot to be honest. Not to mention I don't like how the Kaylon went from a tech based artificial lifeform to basically the Flood from Halo or the Reapers from Mass Effect IE bent on eliminating biologic lifeforms because they are a threat to them and they have to expand now and cooperation is impossible (to them at least we all know in the end the Union is the Federation and they'd make peace with whomever it is) etc etc. But hey, hopefully this drives viewership up and keeps the show going for a S3 because man its not looking good ratings wise sadly

I agree Loc. I think the armed guards are going to need to step up their fight game. They didn't do much to find cover or maneuver while firing on the Kaylon. One shot and they were down. No body armor and pretty absent a tactical posture. Might as well used a sling-shot. When they make it to earth, I hope the Union has a better playbook. And Mercer damn well have some skills because like I said, it just got real on the Orville. 

[firey]

I am not sure how I feel about this season. It is way less funny than last, I liked the fresh take on a space show. Hoping next season can bring some of the jokes back and be less "professional".

[spacelordmaster]

I am personally really fascinated by the quality of this show. The visual effects are nothing short of amazing. Season 2 is great and the episode of Isaac turning on them was awesome. Can't wait till next week to see part 2.

7 minutes ago, firey said:

I am not sure how I feel about this season. It is way less funny than last, I liked the fresh take on a space show. Hoping next season can bring some of the jokes back and be less "professional".

Firey I don't know if you know this, but Seth McFarland said that even though the show has its funny moments, it is not meant to be a comedy. He said the show will be serious but with a twist of comedy, not entirely a comedy.

[firey]

2 minutes ago, spacelordmaster said:

I am personally really fascinated by the quality of this show. The visual effects are nothing short of amazing. Season 2 is great and the episode of Isaac turning on them was awesome. Can't wait till next week to see part 2.

Firey I don't know if you know this, but Seth McFarland said that even though the show has its funny moments, it is not meant to be a comedy. He said the show will be serious but with a twist of comedy, not entirely a comedy.

Didn't know that.  That kinda bums me out. 

[spacelordmaster]

2 minutes ago, firey said:

Didn't know that.  That kinda bums me out. 

Well you gotta remember, TV Networks are weird and Fox is like a super network full of weird audiences and if you bring a quality show like that and make it too funny, they may not like it and cancel it, which would suck because the show is great. They show has a very good 50/50 balance of both seriousness and comedy (funny moments). Bortus alone is funny as hell to look at and listen to....LOL..., anyways, too much seriousness can be a problem and too much comedy will eventually get old so they have to keep it balanced to keep everyone happy.

 

[firey]

Do you know of any other quality (not poorly produced) more comedy-centric space shows?

[Yogurth]

5 minutes ago, firey said:

Do you know of any other quality (not poorly produced) more comedy-centric space shows?

Red Dwarf

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094535/

[FloatingFatMan]

9 hours ago, firey said:

Do you know of any other quality (not poorly produced) more comedy-centric space shows?

Edit: Doh! Posted before I saw Yogurth's post!

[Zathras5]

Stargate SG1 and Atlantis had some good humor throughout... and of course you must watch Firefly if you haven't seen it.

[techbeck]

Sooo, Kaylons are now attacking earth.  Like the Borg.  But instead of assimilating, it is annihilation.    It was a better episode than the past few IMO.  Shall see what happens this week.

[Jazmac]

42 minutes ago, techbeck said:

Sooo, Kaylons are now attacking earth.  Like the Borg.  But instead of assimilating, it is annihilation.    It was a better episode than the past few IMO.  Shall see what happens this week.

I only hope the defenses on Earth are better than that display on the Orville. Those guys were mad lame in battle.

[techbeck]

15 minutes ago, Jazmac said:

I only hope the defenses on Earth are better than that display on the Orville. Those guys were mad lame in battle.

Agree.  Like what, 2 Kaylons were killed while half the Orville crew was wiped out.

[PeterTHX]

3 hours ago, techbeck said:

Sooo, Kaylons are now attacking earth.  Like the Borg.  But instead of assimilating, it is annihilation.    It was a better episode than the past few IMO.  Shall see what happens this week.

Not entirely, it's (instead of ripping off TNG like they usually do) ripping off the Cylons from BATTLESTAR GALACTICA.

And still ripping off TNG with the season 06 finale - DESCENT. Data turns evil, joins his brother and his army.

[techbeck]

3 hours ago, PeterTHX said:

Not entirely, it's (instead of ripping off TNG like they usually do) ripping off the Cylons from BATTLESTAR GALACTICA.

And still ripping off TNG with the season 06 finale - DESCENT. Data turns evil, joins his brother and his army.

Ah yes, how could I forget about Battlestar Gallactica.

[Jazmac]

8 hours ago, techbeck said:

Agree.  Like what, 2 Kaylons were killed while half the Orville crew was wiped out.

Yes, that. I just expected security to be more than average Wal-mart greeters. They supposed to be able to "regulate" but they couldn't get up enough nerve.

[FloatingFatMan]

6 hours ago, Jazmac said:

Yes, that. I just expected security to be more than average Wal-mart greeters. They supposed to be able to "regulate" but they couldn't get up enough nerve.

It is every red shirts' duty to suck carpet at the earliest opportunity!

 

[techbeck]

Good episode tonight.  If it keeps like this, I will keep liking it.  Tho, the CGI needs a bit of work.

[Jim K Global Moderator]

Enjoyed the episode... especially the last 15-20 minutes. Thought the CGI during the scene was fairly good ... considering it is a TV show. Probably half their season budget went to that scene.

[techbeck]

2 minutes ago, Jim K said:

Enjoyed the episode... especially the last 15-20 minutes. Thought the CGI during the scene was fairly good ... considering it is a TV show. Probably half their season budget went to that scene.

Seen better CGI on TNG and Voyager really.  Just looked bad in some parts.

[Jazmac]

Jumping out of the thread now.  I have not watched it yet. Thanks, Jim for pumping your brakes before spilling it.

[LOC Veteran]

I think Identity part 2 was actually better than the 1st part. I loved all the call backs to TNG stuff, and other sci fi properties. Also, that last 20 minutes or so were amazing.

[LOC Veteran]

9 hours ago, Jim K said:

Enjoyed the episode... especially the last 15-20 minutes. Thought the CGI during the scene was fairly good ... considering it is a TV show. Probably half their season budget went to that scene.

I meant to comment of that earlier. Yeah the CG was actually quite good. Though you can see where some corners were cut (like in space shots with nothing going on and you can see the key outs done on the stars) but its fine for a TV show on basic TV and an I'm sure quite limited budget as it is. I did love that final thing that happened in the last part of the episode though. Kudos to the SFX crew on that one.

[+Zagadka Subscriber²]

"Cliches become cliches because precisely because they are valid enough to bear endless repetition" - This sums up the Orville "ripping off" elements from Star Trek, which is really just generic sci-fi tropes.

 

It was a good episode. The battle was suitably entertaining and characters were great. I still don't get the whole concept of risking all of humanity to save the crew of one ship, especially since they just blow the hell out of another ship anyway, as if those people were worth less than the main cast. Glad they didn't pull punches though.

Also, any great hostage situation needs a pee corner.