Official Windows 11 Insider builds

[adrynalyne]

On 28/08/2021 at 16:00, Randomevent said:

I'm using a 3700X atm and am not seeing perf problems anywhere. 

 

I'll look into it.  Later. 

Is it that you aren’t seeing them, or are not sensitive to them? Check Aida64, I bet your L3 cache latency is out of whack. The same people reporting these problems have seen slowdowns and erratic performance in games too. I definitely noticed a difference in my own use cases with my software development stuff. I’ve gone back to 10 since. I won’t step back into W11 until they figure out what’s up. 
 

Who knows, maybe it’s just the extra debug code that’s running. 

[+chaos mage Subscriber²]

On 28/08/2021 at 20:25, adrynalyne said:

Is it that you aren’t seeing them, or are not sensitive to them? Check Aida64, I bet your L3 cache latency is out of whack. The same people reporting these problems have seen slowdowns and erratic performance in games too. I definitely noticed a difference in my own use cases with my software development stuff. I’ve gone back to 10 since. I won’t step back into W11 until they figure out what’s up. 
 

Who knows, maybe it’s just the extra debug code that’s running. 

As a higher end gamer I tend to notice any perf issues, I'd definitely have gone back to 10 if i was seeing anything like that.  My machines are in an awkward room right now so I'm not playing as much as I could be but I'm definitely latency sensitive nonetheless.

[domboy]

There seems to be some weirdness with this latest build 22000.168 (and possibly 22000.160 too) on my Surface Pro X. I actually thought the keyboard was failing as it started having issues over the last week at random times. It would stop working and at first I thought it was if I bumped it (like if it was having a bad connection), but I've also seen it just suddenly quit while using it on a hard surface too. It go really bad yesterday until finally whenever I would connect it, the device would go into sleep mode. A bluetooth keyboard worked fine, but I noticed the battery was getting low. I charged it up, and the keyboard seems to be working fine again. Really odd.

 

Has anyone else noticed anything similar with the Insider builds on similar devices (if anyone else here has a Surface running Windows 11)?

Edited August 30, 2021 by domboy

[George P Global Moderator]

 

[cacoe]

On 31/08/2021 at 10:33, George P said:

 

Let's hope not, I'm really desperate to get a new widget and a single bug fix.

[George P Global Moderator]

Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22449 is out.   Dev channel about to get pretty interesting.

 

[Brandon H Supervisor]

I need to fire my VM up again, haven't messed with things since the 2nd official build came out. kind of want to play with the new Start11 beta too as I'm not a fan of the new start menu implementation.

 

IMO Windows 10 has the best start menu even if turn off lives tiles because it's so much better being able to group your pins together in categories rather than a static pin section like 11 has. That and the fact that the suggested section doesn't go away when disabled and just leaves white space, such a horrible implementation.

[George P Global Moderator]

On 02/09/2021 at 19:52, Brandon H said:

I need to fire my VM up again, haven't messed with things since the 2nd official build came out. kind of want to play with the new Start11 beta too as I'm not a fan of the new start menu implementation.

 

IMO Windows 10 has the best start menu even if turn off lives tiles because it's so much better being able to group your pins together in categories rather than a static pin section like 11 has. That and the fact that the suggested section doesn't go away when disabled and just leaves white space, such a horrible implementation.

That option to remove it is a hack of sorts isn't it.  There's no official setting to not show it is there?   Anyway, we'll see where they take things in the dev channel now that they're moving ahead to next years version and adding more things.

[George P Global Moderator]

22000.176 coming to beta channel it looks like.  Don't expect anything other than bug fixes.

[Sulphy]

22000.176 just installed on my PC.... and i forgot to change the channel on my Surface Book 3 ... which is just installing 22449 now.... be interested to see the release notes on this dev build! fun times  

[Sulphy]

HA... as i posted previous.... the release notes are out. heck, long list of fixes... if my SB3 behaves well.... i might kick my pc over to dev channel again!

[Tantawi]

On 28/08/2021 at 18:46, adrynalyne said:

It depends on the hardware. It is slower on my machine, which falls in line with apparent L3 issues with W11 and Ryzen. 
 

It should smoke on my machine. It’s slower than 10 though. L3 cache latency is through the roof. 
 

Ryzen 9 3950X

128GB DDR 3600

PCIe gen4 2TB SSD

RTX 2080 Super

 

I think you need to be sitting down for this news:



 I AM HAPPY. 

[adrynalyne]

On 02/09/2021 at 11:46, Tantawi said:

I think you need to be sitting down for this news:



 I AM HAPPY. 

Holy crap.

[adrynalyne]

On 02/09/2021 at 11:46, Tantawi said:

I think you need to be sitting down for this news:



 I AM HAPPY. 

Of course, the beta build is still f####d.

 

I need additional success stories!

[+chaos mage Subscriber²]

Yesterday I logged into "user profile service not loading" or sommat, rebooted, logged after long delay into a reset profile.  Fortunately, after another login it came back fine.

 

That's always fun.

[George P Global Moderator]

New builds incoming.    Hope we start to see more changes in the dev branch now.

[+chaos mage Subscriber²]

I'd be happy if I never have that user profile bug again as it came back quite a few times.  In case it was actually something with my user account I just created a new one.

[jamietn]

Its Amazing how 

https://aka.ms/AAd2l82

Keeps losing upvotes from 6500 back to 499x....

 

 

[Tantawi]

[George P Global Moderator]

https://t.co/x3pZ3F26L5   blog post for 22454 is up.

[jamietn]

Its really strange how upvotes keep disappearing from this feedback.

https://aka.ms/AAd2l82

[George P Global Moderator]

I can't view it since I'm not part of the insider preview for 11.   Oh well.  I suppose it's something to do with the taskbar though.

[adrynalyne]

On 29/09/2021 at 01:37, George P said:

I can't view it since I'm not part of the insider preview for 11.   Oh well.  I suppose it's something to do with the taskbar though.

It has to do with the missing combine vs. not grouping of stuff on taskbar. 

On 28/09/2021 at 16:45, jamietn said:

Its really strange how upvotes keep disappearing from this feedback.

https://aka.ms/AAd2l82

A true mystery. It doesn’t matter though, the amount of upvotes doesn’t determine MS priority. 

[+chaos mage Subscriber²]

On 29/09/2021 at 03:37, George P said:

I can't view it since I'm not part of the insider preview for 11.   Oh well.  I suppose it's something to do with the taskbar though.

I can't view it because feedback hub is too damn annoying to us normal folks.  If they want telemetry, that's cool.  If they want to keep asking me if I would recommend stuff to my friends and family screw that.

 

It's almost as annoying as "WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US A FIVE STAR RATING THIS TIME"

[PGHammer]

Windows 11 25115 has been out in the wild for a week - and unlike the last two builds, runs just fine on unsupported hardware (my G3258 has one quibble - it can't run the Windows Subsystem for Android).  That is, however, the only quibble - it supports the Windows Subsystem for Linux and Hyper-V just fine - and has supported both just fine.  Other than the single quibble, so far, I see nothing that absolutely demands TPM.  Curing that single quibble is an expense - but said expense is not even $500USD (yes - I've priced the parts list) - it solves the TPM issue; it even solves the SSD lack (it also quadruples the onboard RAM from 8 GB to 32 GB).