Running Mac OS X on x86 PC!

[S.MULLA]

a new emulator called PearPC seems to be able to run OS X on x86 machines:

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/index.html

Check out the screenshots:

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html

source:aqua-soft.org [forum]

[javaworm]

sorry about the double post

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Hi,

Networking! Everyone's fav topic.

Right my setup is as follows:

Netgear wireless modem router (DHCP server) 192.168.0.1

My pc (DHCP client) 192.168.0.2

ICS wont install because because of the router conflict. Tried bridging the connections but that sodded up the connection to the router. Can anyone suggest the right way forward here?

Thanks! :D

[javaworm]

Quick question syntax.

Did you have any problems getting pearpc to recognize your network card? I havn't even gotten that far.

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Well the TAP adapter installed ok in Windows (beta8 of OpenVPN) and the Realtec is found in MacOS X. It's just getting the two to communicate without ICS. :huh:

[fukachu]

i wonder if the problems you guys have is because of routers?

i have a dial up connection right from this box. i installed openVPN put the rtk card not the 3com in config. and said for the connection to share to the tap and not my lan connection. so worked like a charm.

my problem is i cant have other computers join to this computer for net access and have osx using it as well. its a pain in the arse i have to keep swapping which one it shares to. bridging doesnt work i get an error.

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I have found a way round my problem, as I had the network setup all I needed was something to share the Internet. So I turned to AnalogX's Proxy program.

The TAP adapter is set to 10.0.0.1 and in MacOS the adapter is set to 10.0.0.2, setup the Proxies settings to use 10.0.0.1 and the right ports and :woot: !!

Just doing a software update now including 10.3.4 - lets see if it breaks everything as people have reported.

[javaworm]

I still havn't gotten a network installed in osx. I've tried all the different builds of vpn that people have been telling me, but they have yet to work. I'm running pearpc .3pre build i keep it up to date with the nightly builds, on the system below. I noticed in the verbose logging, it said somthing about the localhost failure......somthing like that. But after all of this I still get a grayed out "integrated network adapter" that you cant do anything with. Has anyone founda decisice answer about what the mac address is supposed to be in the config file, some say it ends with 34, some 35. but i havnt been able to get it to work with either.

If someone could take a look, I would apprecieate it. I've also been having problems with the cdrom access with the new builds. I can get the altivec builds to mount a cd from my cd drive, but i thought that the processor optomized builds had cd support too, or at least thats waht I heard. I'm asking about this becuase the athlon build runs soo much better on my comptuer than the altivec build.

Thanks

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Javaworm,

Has the TAP adapter installed? Mine says it unconnected until MacOS starts. I'm using Tekmaven's Athlon XP G4 SDL build (28/7) which is 0.3pre. Try reinstalling the TAP adapter, the setup crashed first time I ran it. I also noticed your running 10.2.3 where as i'm running 10.3 (just updating to 10.3.4 now), dunno if that will affect it?.

The PearPC MAC address ends in 34 for mine which works.

As you have said the Athlon XP SDL builds seem to be faster - MacOS reports 980Mhz Power G4 :woot:

Dunno about the CD support I don't have use for it at the moment.

[javaworm]

Syntax,

Ecach time i installed the tap adapter, it installed. When Pearpc loads the adapter connects, I know you can set the adapter to always stay connected in the network properties. Which network driver are you using in your config file? I don't know if the os version would make a difference, but i did notice the speed difference between the g3 and g4 builds. My 3000 athlon clocks in at just under a ghz. The cdrom setup was pretty easy to do, but it only worked with the altivec build, which is contrary to what i have heard. Maybe tekmaven will see this.

thnx

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Im using the realtec one, i've attached my config file maybe just give this a try (need to put your img paths in). I don't get any errors on startup, at least I don't think so.

[javaworm]

Thanks for the config file, but that didnt seem to help. I noticed when it was booting up it said somthing about a local host error, but it goes by so fast i cant see all of it.

[Syntax_Error]

I would re-install MacOS X again and start all over again. :pinch:

[javaworm]

ok, i got one of my friends hooked up with the pear, and hes got a lot more time to sit down with it than i did. os 10.2.3 doesnt have the right set of drivers for either of the network cards, so i had to go and get some drivers to install in osx. yeah i felt like a dumbass. so now ive got that running, still dont have the cdrom access figured out. has anyone else tried it?

[javaworm]

Ok, i found the cd access builds. They are a different developer, heres the link.

http://pearpcexe.sytes.net

the downloads are under the products category. I think there are some instructions on there too about how to set the config lines to access your hardware cdrom. I'm still struggeling with getting the internet connection to work. I've gotten as far as installing the network card in osx, but from there I dont know what else to try. Here's my problems. On this LAN, the dhcp server is set to 10.1.1.1(i cant change this, shhh.....im at work), my hardware nic gets a 10.1.1.29 address, ICS is out of the question now. Ive tried bridging the two cards like all of the instructions say, but what ip address would you put in osx? when you bridge two connections neither gets ip addresses that you can do anything with, I'm going to try putting in the bridges IP next. Ive also tired the proxy method, but that just doesnt even act like its trying to think about working(yeah that bad).

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Hi javaworm, looks like we are the only ones in this thread at the moment; where has everyone gone? :huh:

For the Internet just follow what I did in my post. You have the problem as I had, already running a DHCP server. Just install the proxy like I did. :cool:

[javaworm]

Ok, I read your post, but I'm a little confused still. You set the tap adapter in windows to 10.0.0.1 and to 10.0.0.2 in osx. I got that much, but how did you get your internet connection to go through your tap adapter? Am i making sense?

internet/hardware nic card/{somthing in your computer}/virtual nic/ osx

there would need to be some kind of connection between the nic and the tap wouldnt there? Or is the default of the proxy program to use your active hardware nic card?

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Right, get AnalogX's Proxy here.

Install it and set it up with the following:

Proxy Binding 10.0.0.1

Click the Check If In Closed Mode - should say closed if it has binded. The icon goes green, though you might have to start PearPC to make it do that.

So now we have got the MacOS virtual adapter talking to the TAP adapter which is talking to the Proxy server which is talking to your Internet connection. That was a long sentence! :p

Hope that helps! :cool:

Oh yeah don't forget to set the Proxies in the MacOS network properties to the right ports (in the readme file)!

[javaworm]

Ya know, Ive noticed the lack of people in here too. Maybe all the mac wannabees got scared off by such a superior operating system. They probobly couldnt handle the apple.:p

BTW, im trying that, its a little confusing, because im a "real networking" guy, like with actual card, wires, and devices. so all this virtual and proxy stuff kinda stikes me as a little bass akwards.

thanks

[javaworm]

well, maybe i did somthing wrong. I have to use 10.1.1.x ip addresses for our network. my hardware nic get .29 so i gave the windows tap .30, and the mac nic .31. I set the proxy to use .30, and set all the net config stuff to use .30 as the proxy with the ports. it sat on connecting to 10.1.1.30 then said it couldnt establish a connection. Im working on getting some screen shots to put up, either to get some help or to show people how not to do this.

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Instead of setting the adapters to 10.x.x.x set them to 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 or 169.172.x.x.

What's this about it saying connecting?

[javaworm]

at the bottom of the browser window, it says "connecting to (ip address)" like it was a website. After a little while it says it could not establish a connection. I think what I was trying to get at was, what is connecting the real nic card to the virtual ones? How does the "internet" get from your network card to the tap adapter? Does this make more sense than before? I'll try the different addresses though.

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I think the TAP adapter and the Mac adapter create a internal network sort of - not quite sure on this. The proxy acts as a layer 3 router, it intercepts requests from one adapter (or address) and forwards them on. :wacko:

In the networking bit in MacOS it should have a green icon next to the adapter saying it is connected to the Internet. Sorry I can't show a screenshot - MacOS seems to have pete tonged on me (think that was 10.3.4 update) and now System Preferences crashes and I think the network is broken. :no:

[javaworm]

well sounds like were about in the same place, I had to reinstall osx the other day too. I still havnt gotten any farther on my network. Even tried a dial up connection with ICS to the tap adapter(doesnt work BTW). For some reason, the three network adapters arent connecting like they should. Im not sure exactly how the tap adapter interacts with the osx network card, that would be a great help. If the tap adapter provides the "hardware" for osx to latch on to, then I dont know how multiple ip addresses would interact. Even though they are two different operating systems, an ip address is the same thing. I wish there was someone else in this discussion(no offense) because I think we are to the point of beating a lame horse. We have tried everything and dont have any new ideas. Now this is just getting annoying, i want my mac and i want it to be online, is that too much to ask???

[Syntax_Error]

Yeah I have run out of ideas as well now! Maybe try the PearPC forums and have a look around there.

As for more people we'll just have to wait till a new version of PearPC comes out that gets everyone going again! :whistle:

[pctuk]

Can anyone that keeps up to date with this project give us an update on its progress? Has it sped up to a more usable state? Stable? Any added features?