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I want a Watercolor theme :whistle: Longs is looking good especially with timdorrs sticky post idea.

and to answer everyones concern about v4.0 being too 'colorful' or non-compliant, This theme will remain a secondary choice, especially if elements like Flash are going to be used.

v4.0 has been discussed at length among admins and the people who have worked on it and we have already got a good idea of what we want. We won't like to disclose that information yet however so as to give ourselves a far chance of implemting a UNIQUE design that doesnt get ripped by others before we implement it ;)

Our current theme is 3 years old next month and believe it or not it took almost 2 years to get it how it is today, like it or not our current theme really does work well for the site on the whole and will be very difficult to replace with something that isnt already done elsewhere.

We don't have themers on staff but maybe this is something we really need to consider to keep Neowin looking fresh.

I got to say this new design, however turns out is gonna be fantastic! I wish I designed that before Long! Damn!

Design your own. Neobond looks to be open to the idea of other alternative themes on the site. Long's doesn't have to be the only one picked :)

We don't have themers on staff but maybe this is something we really need to consider to keep Neowin looking fresh.

if that is the case long would be a valuable addon as he is the brain behind this design. :) :p

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We don't have themers on staff but maybe this is something we really need to consider to keep Neowin looking fresh.

I agreed with your opinion and I think you've already found the one who should responsible for keeping Neowin fresh :yes:

well thats why we are here... we help him edit... you need one idea... and lots of people to make the idea into reality... and who better then the people who are going to be using the site? :)

I don't think it could be a "one man shop". The more, the better.

this could get hard then. people working together that dont know eachother may collide. i am saying this from experience. down here we always go on a team training before we work with eachother. :)

We don't have themers on staff but maybe this is something we really need to consider to keep Neowin looking fresh.

If it wasn't for some additional CPU power overhead, I'd say it'd be time to make IPB and the news system spit out raw XML and have some code in place that pushs it thru XSLT stylesheets. Having XML/XSLT adds way more flexibility and ease to site skinning. That is if you don't fork on defining the abstracted document scheme used to represent the board and news data (before it does to the XSLT transformer).

If that scheme is then public, people can start designing skins on their own and submit them, whereas the staff can test them ASAP without fiddling much.

If it wasn't for some additional CPU power overhead, I'd say it'd be time to make IPB and the news system spit out raw XML and have some code in place that pushs it thru XSLT stylesheets. Having XML/XSLT adds way more flexibility and ease to site skinning. That is if you don't fork on defining the abstracted document scheme used to represent the board and news data (before it does to the XSLT transformer).

If that scheme is then public, people can start designing skins on their own and submit them, whereas the staff can test them ASAP without fiddling much.

*pretends like that made sense*

Yep. :yes:

On a sidenote, using XML/XSLT, you could implement an option that allows the user to let the browser perform the XSLT transform on client side. With IE6 and Mozilla it suffices to append a processing instruction to make it do the transformation themselves.

A la

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<?xml-stylesheet href="/styles/foo.xsl" type="text/xsl"?>
<document />

Would allow offloading some of the overhead again, should such an XML based system be implemented. For IPB it'd be just a skin to output XML.

I want a Watercolor theme :whistle: Longs is looking good especially with timdorrs sticky post idea.

and to answer everyones concern about v4.0 being too 'colorful' or non-compliant, This theme will remain a secondary choice, especially if elements like Flash are going to be used.

v4.0 has been discussed at length among admins and the people who have worked on it and we have already got a good idea of what we want. We won't like to disclose that information yet however so as to give ourselves a far chance of implemting a UNIQUE design that doesnt get ripped by others before we implement it ;)

Our current theme is 3 years old next month and believe it or not it took almost 2 years to get it how it is today, like it or not our current theme really does work well for the site on the whole and will be very difficult to replace with something that isnt already done elsewhere.

We don't have themers on staff but maybe this is something we really need to consider to keep Neowin looking fresh.

aye boss :)

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