trix Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 slightly offtopic but daamn i would never wanto get on the wrong side of neowinians you'd most probably ruin my life!! /me runs away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Well I just read the TOS and Privacy Policy, and man these guys are a bunch of ######. When I'm up in Sudbury in September I'm dropping by their office, if it even exists. Sudbury UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Were we ever even able to prove that they were reading user's emails? Send HTML mails linking a GIF webbug on your server to a random account (from/to YGP) you're sure that will not be read, for instance a dummy Hotmail account. Then watch the webservers referrer log for requests for the webbug. Since noone read the mail but the webbug being requested, you've proof. Antivirus tools don't download and scan images and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDX1 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 After reading it some more, it looks like people that signed up never read the TOS? I can't read the TOS now as the site is still down. What did it say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I didn't read the entire TOS and Privacy Policy, but it had all the basics, but it said a lot about how they would terminate accounts whenever they wanted, they would periodically clean out emails and could block emails from wherever they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzykotic Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Here is my contribution to the Amy thing: "Amy"It has come to my attention that you are unaware of what "International Law" is. Let me explain. A long time ago, when the first United Nations was set upon and agreed to, the countries involved decided that a court should be established to quote "Maintain law and order throughout the world unbiased and fairly" unquote. The United Nations has since established a website wherein you can search through their site on decisions of International Law as well as get a better feel for it. http://www.un.org/law/# Now for me to clarify, since your "company" exists in multiple instances of countries participating in the United Nations, you are infact in violation of multiple instances of Internationa Law as well as violating numerous privacy rights of users who are living in those countries. If you don't mind, I'd much rather skip all the non-sense and name-calling and just get right down to it. There's really no need for you to call people names, vulgarize them or threaten them with "account deletion". That doesn't bother me or anyone else of sound ethical mind. What you do, is illegal and in time - someone will show you that. I am sure she'll demonize my instance of the word "International" that was misspelled improperly, I should expect nothing less of a man who pretends to be a woman with little intellect. But as they say in the real-world; "The Game is afoot". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDX1 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I didn't read the entire TOS and Privacy Policy, but it had all the basics, but it said a lot about how they would terminate accounts whenever they wanted, they would periodically clean out emails and could block emails from wherever they wanted. Well then, it's the users fault for not reading the TOS. They don't read the TOS when they sign up and then they complain when they get their account deleted, read and so forth? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detn8r Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I apologize for my oblivious ignorance, but I am very interested. I was wondering what arose to make this ?Amy? character to admit to reading people?s emails. I think I got the part where, someone emailed her (her being the webmaster, and or spoke-women) complaining about what they, she, has done, and they terminated their account because of it, and did so sounding like a punk 17 year old? They offer an unlimited account, yet give them selves? access to delete emails to keep with this promise? And they think they can get away with breaking international laws by registering a domain in Malaysia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Well then, it's the users fault for not reading the TOS. They don't read the TOS when they sign up and then they complain when they get their account deleted, read and so forth? :rolleyes: I never even signed up for an account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDX1 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I never even signed up for an account. I wasn't directing the comment at you, I was quoting what you said about their TOS. Most people (Including me) don't read the whole TOS when they sign up for a service or install a program. I'm sure if they would of never signed up for YGP if they read the TOS, instead they are calling foul now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chode Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 It gets sweeter by the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane2003 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 :), Can anyone say "Class-Action Lawsuit"? They violated so many laws it isnt even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 yea,we should all get together and SUE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasadams Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Class Action Lawsuit requires lawyers. Lawyers require $$$. Maybe one of our fellow neowinians is a lawyer...? If not, we need $$$, and lot's of it (because you know those lawyers wipe their a**es with $100 bills, and their s*it is pretty messy)! :-P maybe my avatar has some money to spare ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 lol,SUE SUE SUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeburn Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 :), Can anyone say "Class-Action Lawsuit"? They violated so many laws it isnt even funny. nah, the current Walmart class action lawsuit is so large that its shadowing over the smaller mom'n'pop lawsuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
configure Veteran Posted July 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 1, 2004 Forgive my ignorance as I haven't read the entire thread, yet. What evidence, beside the quote from an unknown users, do you have to say that YGP is in fact reading your emails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalN. Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 configure read this Send HTML mails linking a GIF webbug on your server to a random account (from/to YGP) you're sure that will not be read, for instance a dummy Hotmail account. Then watch the webservers referrer log for requests for the webbug. Since noone read the mail but the webbug being requested, you've proof. Antivirus tools don't download and scan images and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chode Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 pretty hard to do that though now, them been DOWN and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDX1 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 lol,SUE SUE SUE How can you sue when you agreed to this when you signed up, not their fault you didn't read the TOS. (Note 'you' meaning everyone in general that signed up) Not to mention they are in a different country. This is happening in our own country: (If you live in the states) https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=184759 Besides, if it did happen and you did sue, what would you get from it? Their site down? It's already down, for now. Some money? Doesn't look like the are making money, Revenge? That's childish.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
configure Veteran Posted July 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 1, 2004 configure read this I saw that and thought that it is a very clever idea - I was after the actual an evidence however :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmeegie88 Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 I saw that and thought that it is a very clever idea - I was after the actual an evidence however Check out mid page - http://www.redpike.com/wut/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glitch409 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Reviewer: A customer from AustraliaThe guy who runs the You've Got Post system is an absolute scumbag. He likes to use aliases - his current webmaster, Amy, is almost definitely a front. His name is Greg Lloyd Smith. Type his name into Google, see what pops up. After unsuccessfully trying to take a company called Frugalescrow public (total loss) he went on to bigger things. MPC Trading, the company allegedly behind Youvegotpost, also dabbles in small time porn sites and whatever else he thinks can turn a quick buck. All this is fueled by officialspin.com, the 'press release' site he uses to try to promote the companies he backs, and to flame people who look at what he does with a careful eye. GLS is the genius who originally conceived of registering www.amazon.com.gr in Greece, and then tried to sell it back to Amazon for millions. He was sued by Amazon using the RICO (Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations) stautes, and the URL now belongs to Amazon. GLS also tried to sue Nike, but nothing came of that either. This guy is a nasty piece of work. He is also a complete failure as a businessman. If you do a little research on You've Got Post you'll find that they claim to be based in the UK, yet their business name isn't registered there. Their press releases claim that they are in Malaysia, and their actual servers are located in the US. Judging from "her" emails, the ISP that "Amy" uses is from Greece...not really a surprise considering that GLS is from Greece (hence his registration of the amazon.com.gr domain years back.) Add to that that their "administrator" "Amy" has admitted to reading emails, and claims that its not illegal because "they aren't US based", and even claimed that there was no such thing as international law! These are scammers trying to get a quick buck. Use Yahoo or GMail. this guy reminds me of Lex Luther :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted July 1, 2004 Global Moderator Share Posted July 1, 2004 glad i didn't sign up... to be honest.. when hotmail releases it's 250mb.. that will be more then enough... i keep it under 2mb now.. how am i ever gonna reach 250 :s plus got yahoo, gmail, and my own, @l2-designs.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
configure Veteran Posted July 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 1, 2004 Does anyone have a copy of their ToS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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