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[Golferjim]

Have a birthday. I can continue to play my World of Warcraft, snag the collector's edition for free. Birthday was last month, mom was all like "what do you want" I said rain check, when I know the date I'll tell ya. :)

Haha nice one :) , Im thinking about getting the collectors edition myself. I have never had a Wow collectors edition before so I think I'll make this one my first...

Anyone Know what comes with this colectors edition or is it just the same as the rest of them but with WOLK stuff instead of BC and pre-Bc.

Thanks :)

[Shadrack]

i'll probably get the normal. probably won't pre-order, either. i doubt it will sell out. hopefully won't be any server problems.

[»X«]

Heres my current layout, just made it tonight. Phew.

[Xilo]

i'll probably get the normal. probably won't pre-order, either. i doubt it will sell out. hopefully won't be any server problems.

Seriously. I don't know why some people pre-order, especially if they don't include any extras for pre-ordering. I live in a college town, so there's lots of potential people that play. When TBC came out, I went to Best Buy around noon. They had stacks of both the regular and collector's edition sitting on display.

I've got 2 accounts, so I'll probably just get 2 normal copies or maybe 1 of each.

[leph555]

can anyone suggest to me which paladin build i should do? I just started playing again and want to start a new char

[Xilo]

can anyone suggest to me which paladin build i should do? I just started playing again and want to start a new char

Best to do IMO is retribution from 1-40. After 40, spec to full protection. As full protection, you can AOE mobs down and also tank very well.

[Slane]

Seriously. I don't know why some people pre-order, especially if they don't include any extras for pre-ordering. I live in a college town, so there's lots of potential people that play. When TBC came out, I went to Best Buy around noon. They had stacks of both the regular and collector's edition sitting on display.

I've got 2 accounts, so I'll probably just get 2 normal copies or maybe 1 of each.

To get mine at midnight and be 71-72 by the time you get yours bought and installed! :p (at least hopefully)

[»X«]

Any thoughts as to the best warrior spec?

[Xilo]

To get mine at midnight and be 71-72 by the time you get yours bought and installed! :p (at least hopefully)

Lol. I'll give you that one... At least that will give you hope for servers being up and not full. :laugh:

[Slane]

Any thoughts as to the best warrior spec?

Prot for tanking.

Fury for PvE.

Arms for Arena/PvP.

Basically your choices.

Lol. I'll give you that one... At least that will give you hope for servers being up and not full. :laugh:

My only goal releaase night is to get out of starting area before the rush. After that I want push as hard, but hard enough to hit 80 by Sunday night (hopefully).

On a side note, doing Kara for well over a year, and it's the second time seeing King's Defender and I won. Now I know Brutalize or Unbreakable Will, will drop this weekend. Going to annoy the **** out of me.

Edited September 17, 2008 by Slane

[Minifig]

I got me a new mace tonight, and a guildy was kind enough to enchant it with Fiery for me.

I love it to bits. :)

[Slane]

I got me a new mace tonight, and a guildy was kind enough to enchant it with Fiery for me.

I love it to bits. :)

Used it on my Enhc shaman for awhile. Good mace. Slow as hell though.

[Minifig]

It's as slow as my old mace .. so I won't notice the speed.

It's mostly a damage and specs boost which makes it a huge, huge boost.

[I am Redbeard]

Man.. what a bad time for my girlfriend to miss a day of classes for her injured dog who lives 90 miles away..

Let me elaborate.

Since Wotlk comes out on a Thursday, that means I will have to not only be at the store Wednesday night, up all thursday morning, but out of class on friday. As I told her this she then yelled at me for I told her it was lame to put her dog (which is fine now,(which I knew it would be!!)) before school. Sadly.. I'm putting a game before it. Bleh, to each his or her own.

Can't wait.

Not to worried about raiding until then, just want gold for now, and mats. Not too sure if I want to do Badge-ahzan weekly.. will the badges be of the same significance?

[Emorex]

Man.. what a bad time for my girlfriend to miss a day of classes for her injured dog who lives 90 miles away..

Let me elaborate.

Since Wotlk comes out on a Thursday, that means I will have to not only be at the store Wednesday night, up all thursday morning, but out of class on friday. As I told her this she then yelled at me for I told her it was lame to put her dog (which is fine now,(which I knew it would be!!)) before school. Sadly.. I'm putting a game before it. Bleh, to each his or her own.

Can't wait.

Not to worried about raiding until then, just want gold for now, and mats. Not too sure if I want to do Badge-ahzan weekly.. will the badges be of the same significance?

The badges for level 80 will be different than the one for level 70. Honor points reset as well. You cannot stockpile anything for the expansion other than gold/mats. So if anyone has been saving badges or points, spend it now, when it is actually worth something.

[dbuizert]

I am gonna start playing WoW again next week. Lineage 2 is dieing so :p

Doomhammer-EU warrior allie lfclan! :p

[j0sh]

The badges for level 80 will be different than the one for level 70. Honor points reset as well. You cannot stockpile anything for the expansion other than gold/mats. So if anyone has been saving badges or points, spend it now, when it is actually worth something.

I thought only arena points were resetting? Link to Blue about honor doing the same?

[»X«]

Question. You need a level 55+ to get a death knight on the new expansion. But how does that work?

You make a death knight and then what? You appear where? Goldshire? And at what level?

I will get WLK for sure. But I'm not going to pre-order.

[dbuizert]

I thought only arena points were resetting? Link to Blue about honor doing the same?

It has always been like that in the past :)

[Crompee]

Question. You need a level 55+ to get a death knight on the new expansion. But how does that work?

You make a death knight and then what? You appear where? Goldshire? And at what level?

I will get WLK for sure. But I'm not going to pre-order.

In a new area which comes with WotLK. Its next to Eastern Plaguelands (or at least will be).

You appear as level 55 if im not mistaken and according to beta reviews.. the starting area is alot of fun :p

[Slane]

It has always been like that in the past :)

It was only done from Pre-BC to BC due to the change in the honor system. There has been no stated blue post confirming nor denying honor points being reset. Arena points yes, and badges will change also (though some of 2.4 badge gear will last until lvl 80/Naxx). I do believe they will and should reset honor points, but that's still up in the air.

[Golferjim]

Im so mixed thoughts at the moment weathers im looking forward to this next patch followed up by WOLK, or I don't wont the patch to happen and things will stay the same in WOLK but we all know that wont happen :s ...

Reason I say that is because I was talking to some of my guild members last night and one of them was saying how this next patch 3.0 is going to fully screw over Wow, just because of all the things there doing in the patch will change the game face of this game completely. I have only a small part of the patch notes so I don't think I got to the part were this person was reading from but from what I gathered the changes are going to be to a whole new extreme but it is for the better..

Does anyone else feel unsure about this next patch or have any thoughts as to if its going to change the World (world of warcraft ) as we know it to be?

Also I was looking at some specs in the internet for my frost mage and it seemed when I was placing the points in that I was just stock piling them all into the frost tree :s hope this isn't going to turn out to be one of those specs which are just 0/0/61 :s

[Slane]

It was the same pre-bc. Only thing I can tell ya, is this patch will only affect people who continue to PvP/PvE frequently for the last month/ month-half of BC lifespan.

[the evn show]

There's a lot of talk about gear lasting until 80: I think we should clarify what is generally meant.

When people say "item X lasts until Y" what they mean is that there's no significant upgrade from item X to Y.

As they flush out the itemization of the dungeons I'm starting to think that I'll be keeping very little of my Sunwell gear at 80. I think blizzard is going out of their way to make sure we won't have another rejuvinating gem for this expansion.

The most obvious items to last forever are items with low slot-modifiers: shoulders, wand/ranged, trinkets, belt, boots. The only easily accessible trinkets that look to have staying power is the DST. From what little we can see it looks like blue trinkets at level 75 approach the quality of Illidan/M'uru drops and level 80 'Battlemaster' trinkets are roughly twice as good as their level 70 counterparts.

Sunwell wands hold up well because they scale with WoTLK gems, likewise the Legendary bow beats everything prior to 25-man loot (so far). The epic bow from sunwell handily stomps the drops from illidan/archimonde and badge gear once you have a reasonable amount of haste, and that's a stat that is readily available on Northrend loot (as well as sunwell gear, which you probably have if you're getting kil'jaeden/twins drops).

One thing I see being extremely powerful is the 4 piece tier 6 bonus. The bonus is a % modifier to a standard ability: those tend to scale extremely well. Furthermore, you can maintain that bonus by using 4 of your "least valuable" slots: Boots, belt, bracers, and one more of your choosing.

For any given slot there's likely to be a clear upgrade outside of Naxx, but it's really hard to beat bonuses like more 5% white damage and +6% to sinister strike/hemorage/backstab when they can be maintained by wearing second or third-best in slot items. I wouldn't be surprised to see the T6 set bonuses converted to static amounts for the same reason things like 3 piecer tier 2 was nerfed from 15% regen while casting to +20 mana/5. In some cases the sunwell T6 pieces remain best in slot (ie: slayer's belt) so it's even more likely that people will try to maintain their 4/8 bonus.

Maybe we could come up with a list of items per class that have no clear upgrades until Nax-10 to help people plan their last few upgrades?

[Slane]

Maybe we could come up with a list of items per class that have no clear upgrades until Nax-10 to help people plan their last few upgrades?

If I was on Beta and could run dungeons/heroics/raids I'd do that. Really don't like shifting through wowhead to find stuff. By no means do I mean to state, if your in T6/Sunwell you are perfectly fine into T7, I'm just stating that some Northrend items won't be major upgrades compared to what you have.

http://www.tankspot.com/forums/gear-lists-...-gear-list.html

That's how I've been keeping up with tanking loot, and clearly it seems like some of the best bet items is a crafted BOE tanking set (ZOMG only took the 2nd expansion). The list can and probally will be changed with more loot being found and changes Blizzard can still create. I'll use the above link to see what kind of gear I can get while I quest/dungeon to 80. Make sure I do this quest and this quest for that upgrade and this upgrade. Make sure I run these two dungeons to get upgrades, and not run these two since they provide none. Of course this is just me planning on rushing to 80 and to start puggin heroics/raids ASAP.