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[firey]

New tier gear is always better than old tier gear.  

 

Heroic ToT gear is > SoO RF gear.  Progression is the heart of the game.

 

Also, 391 gear (Heroic FL) > 384 gear (DS RF)

That was always the case, but I could run RF in ~20 minutes, and 9/10 times get a piece of gear.  I am totally decked in RF Gear.. and I barely had to do a thing.   The game now has way too much hand holding.  You can go from level 1 to 90 in no time.. players don't get to learn their classes, because everything is handed to them.

I'd like to see half the players rocking 90 tier gear now play TBC.. 9/10 would be kicked for being scrubs.. the problem I think.. is that Blizz had a solid game (it is still) with hardcore players.  They wanted to open up a bit to casuals and in doing so made it far less enjoyable for the hardcore players.  Eventually they hit a spot where it was too easy for most, and too hard for others so numbers dropped.  Instead of going back to the head to the grind stone work for what you have mentality.. they are going after the players who play games on their tablets with short attention spans.

If given the chance.. I would gladly pay 15$ a month to play wow like it was in TBC (pre-nerf).  However.. I struggle to justify reactivating my account as it is right now.  I will likely re-activate when the new expansion comes out.. but I am genuinely dissapointed with the direction Blizzard has gone with it, and the reactivation and purchasing of expansion would be to see what's new.

[Art3x]

Heroic raiding is harder and more technical than BC ever thought about being.

 

There is more content than ever, and end game is more challenging than ever, RF is a stop gap for some to real raiding and end game for the casuals.  Having RF gear means nothing, everyone knows that.

[firey]

I guess to each their own. I didn't play vanilla but started when za was launched and I feel the game has been dumbed down far too much from how it was.

I found a TBC blizz like server so played it a bit tonight. Kind of weird there were 670 players on the realm so there were Players in the starting zone with me.

[The Evil Overlord]

I guess to each their own. I didn't play vanilla but started when za was launched and I feel the game has been dumbed down far too much from how it was.

I found a TBC blizz like server so played it a bit tonight. Kind of weird there were 670 players on the realm so there were Players in the starting zone with me.

Vanilla was awesome, I never knew what I was doing, BC was an awesome expansion, Wrath was my personal favourite, after that I got too fed up with cry babies saying their carrying this guy or that guy in cata and mists, like they were never new to the game once neither.....

[firey]

Yea for me TBC was normal game. Wrath was like a nice break... then cata and mists just feels like a break from the break we had.

The problem I find is that the number of scrubs end game made it frustrating when it came to raiding... and its gotten worse as time goes on. They make it easier and easier to level and get gear. No longer have the chance or need to learn your class inside and out.

[Prosidius]

One of the largest (and oldest) threads on Neowin.  Did everyone quit WoW?  

[Zinomian]

I did.

[Shaun N.]

I'm still here

[Dotdot]

Started playing again recently, got into WOD Beta and its fun!

[Shaun N.]

Started playing again recently, got into WOD Beta and its fun!

 

Damn you !

[Elliott]

I quit, but Warlords of Draenor looks like it's shaping up nicely. Might pull me back in.

[Guest]

Still playing. Kind of. Waiting for WoD, only logging in every now and then.

[x-scratch]

can't believe people still play this

[LaP]

New tier gear is always better than old tier gear.  

 

Heroic ToT gear is > SoO RF gear.  Progression is the heart of the game.

 

Also, 391 gear (Heroic FL) > 384 gear (DS RF)

 

Yeah but before RF you had to work for it. The normal mode of most raids was still hard for most people. And the good gear was dropped by later bosses in the raid and most casual groups were not able to down them even in normal mode.

 

RF killed the game for me. It's easy. It's laughable how it is easy. It destroys one of the purpose of raiding. I stopped playing the game when DS RF was released. Seeing stupid DS RF later bosses gear (390) being better than Fireland heroic gear (391) because of low ilevel difference and itemization killed it. You were required to do RF DS to upgrade fireland heroic gear. How stupid is that ...

 

RF gear should be the same level as normal mode previous raid. Like the Trial of the Champion gear was the same level as normal mode 10 men Ulduar. And like ZA and ZG gears was the same level as the normal mode BWD. If i remember correctly ZA and ZG gear was even a little bit lower than normal mode BWD.

 

The point of RF should be to gear for normal mode current raid (like the new dongeons added in WOTLK and beginning of cata). And the gear level should be the same as previous raid normal mode. 1 ilevel lower than heroic mode previous gear was stupid beyond understandment. But that's the new blizzard for you.

Everyone with their rose colored glasses.  

 

The game has evolved.  It is a better, more polished game than it ever has been.  

 

Vanilla/BC was when each class had one viable spec and itemization was horrible.  It was fun then, it would be awful now.

 

More polished yes. Better absolutely not.

[Lizardslap]

I play occasionally get a month here and there I very very casually raid with a guild I have been in since TBC

I do like all the little things the devopers have done mostly small things like spam escape to close out of wow completly multiple ways to access differnt things and open things alot of other mmo's I noticed dont do that and it makes slightly more tedious to navigate around the menus

 

I do wish people would talk more seems like every game I play nobody ever says anything anymore

[game_over]

I'm still playing but just once or twice a week until WoD comes along, getting bored of SoO and Timeless Isle.

[LaP]

That was always the case, but I could run RF in ~20 minutes, and 9/10 times get a piece of gear.  I am totally decked in RF Gear.. and I barely had to do a thing.   The game now has way too much hand holding.  You can go from level 1 to 90 in no time.. players don't get to learn their classes, because everything is handed to them.

I'd like to see half the players rocking 90 tier gear now play TBC.. 9/10 would be kicked for being scrubs.. the problem I think.. is that Blizz had a solid game (it is still) with hardcore players.  They wanted to open up a bit to casuals and in doing so made it far less enjoyable for the hardcore players.  Eventually they hit a spot where it was too easy for most, and too hard for others so numbers dropped.  Instead of going back to the head to the grind stone work for what you have mentality.. they are going after the players who play games on their tablets with short attention spans.

If given the chance.. I would gladly pay 15$ a month to play wow like it was in TBC (pre-nerf).  However.. I struggle to justify reactivating my account as it is right now.  I will likely re-activate when the new expansion comes out.. but I am genuinely dissapointed with the direction Blizzard has gone with it, and the reactivation and purchasing of expansion would be to see what's new.

 

 

I think WOTLK was a relatively good compromise. The hard mode and heroic mode was hard enough. Few people can say Ulduar hard mode was easy. Few people can say ICC heroic was easy even after the buff. The dungeons were too easy though. Wintergrasp was fun. It was not as good as BC but it was still way better than cata and mop. OS 3 drakes was really hard. Halion heroic was really hard too for most people out there.

 

I think Blizzard dropped the ball first with the faction change. A money grabbing Blizzard should be ashamed of. It killed many servers including my own (Mug'thol) and on those servers Wintergrasp and world pvp became a total mess. On mug'Thol a couple of months after faction change the population was around 90% hordes for 10% alliances. Before faction change it was around 60% hordes for 40% alliances and it had been stable for many years. I had a screenshot of how stupid it was but sadly i can't find it anymore. I was in wintergrasp and we were maybe 5 alliances and the horde had the maximum number of players (can't remember how it was). I was so buffed that i could kill 3 hordes with a single multishot. I could annihilate them with a single trap. But there was so much of them and so few of us that we were not able to do anything. I posted many messages on Blizzard message board and never got any reply from them. They never did anything to resolve the situation and we were not offered free xfer. I had to pay 75$ to move 3 of my toons out of this mess. The other toons i never played them again.

 

After that it went downhill for Blizzard. Cata was cool at first. The dungeons were harder than wotlk. BWD and BOT were both really hard raids. The heroic mode BWD remains one of the hardest raid i did in the game. Fireland was rehashed but before the nerf it was hard enough and fun. Then Blizzard nerfed it. They ******* nerfed it the week after we were 4% close to kill Lord Rhyolith heroic. He was hard and only 3 groups on the server had him killed. We were the only other group close to kill him. The week after the nerf there was like 10 groups having the achiv for him. They nerfed FL heroic so bad it destroyed the purpose of doing it. Only Rag heroic remained really hard enough to be heroic.

 

Then they released RF DS and the game was then dead. I re-activated my account to play mop but i did not raid and closed it after hitting 90. I don't plan to re-activate it ever.

[Shadrack]

Getting stoked for WOD! Took a break for basically the entirety of MOP.

 

Not sure if I'll be into raiding again like I was in BC and WotLK, but maybe I will... Wish Blizzard would offer free toon transfers. I know they won't because people are OK to pay. But all my buddies are on a different server now and I'm having to start over. I hit level 55 on my Warlock and came across some a post that mentioned heirlooms being transferable between servers.... wtf, I'd be like 10 levels further already if I knew that. Those patch notes stack up and if you are gone for awhile it is hard to sift through all the changes. What a massive game.

[game_over]

The Dark Portal is green for the last time. I've not logged in for about a month due to work commitments so i'll be checking it out for the final time tonight before the patch tomorrow. Upper Blackrock Spire 5-man is available from tomorrow for lvl 90s for a limited time. I'm looking forward to getting addicted again and productivity hitting a big fat zero and losing my job and my wife and looking like this guy:

 

 

such a magical time.

[LaP]

Wow just re-activated my account for the patch just to realise blizz removed msaa from the game.

 

Makes me laugh to see all those fanboys who run the game with mid quality settings saying there's no difference. Without even knowing it the minute i fired the game my first impression was "god it doesn't look as good as before". This cmaa is awful. I'll get used to it but it's still an awful aa algo.

 

It's great having to pay 60$ for worse gfx.

 

[edit] lol when i do a search on google with "cmaa" and "awful" keywords the first page results are all wow related XD

[episode]

Wow just re-activated my account for the patch just to realise blizz removed msaa from the game.

 

Makes me laugh to see all those fanboys who run the game with mid quality settings saying there's no difference. Without even knowing it the minute i fired the game my first impression was "god it doesn't look as good as before". This cmaa is awful. I'll get used to it but it's still an awful aa algo.

 

It's great having to pay 60$ for worse gfx.

 

[edit] lol when i do a search on google with "cmaa" and "awful" keywords the first page results are all wow related XD

 

Shouldn't be playing WoW for the graphics. Its 10 freaking years old.

 

Here's why they changed: http://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/articles/forward-rendering-vs-deferred-rendering--gamedev-12342

[LaP]

Shouldn't be playing WoW for the graphics. Its 10 freaking years old.

 

Here's why they changed: http://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/articles/forward-rendering-vs-deferred-rendering--gamedev-12342

 

Who said i'm playing wow for the gfx.

 

Still why should i accept a gfx downgrade for an xpac i'm going to pay 60 ******* bucks ???

 

BTW wow using ultra and aa 8x was still a nice looking game running at 60 fps at all time outside the main cities.

 

Still nice looking but the aliasing bothers me when i turn off AA and the lost in IQ bothers me when i turn on fxaa.

[Osiris]

Too many other good games at the moment but I like that they added MoP for free, although you could probably argue that says a lot that the others are still paid for expansions and that it isn't.

[Nerd Rage]

 

 

Still nice looking but the aliasing bothers me.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure exactly why, but I never got into using anti-aliasing.  When AA is turned on, in any game, for me it just makes it look blurry, not better.  I always leave it turned off.  I will gladly take some jagged edges to have everything look clear and crisp.  I know almost everyone disagrees, but I never understood the desire for AA.

[Buttus]

I'm not sure exactly why, but I never got into using anti-aliasing.  When AA is turned on, in any game, for me it just makes it look blurry, not better.  I always leave it turned off.  I will gladly take some jagged edges to have everything look clear and crisp.  I know almost everyone disagrees, but I never understood the desire for AA.

 

i'm right there with ya!