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[I am Redbeard]

sorry when others pay my monthly fee then they can tellme how to spec untill then they can take all the numbers and so called info and shove it . also i have a hunter and YEs hes is BM spec but what i meant was that spec you linked saying its the BEST spec . may not be the best for everyone ... deal with it or don't /shrug i dont have all day to sit in my moms basement and number crunch what would be the best spec . i spec how i want pick the talents i want :D

But it is the best overall spec.

[I am Redbeard]

For some reason I can't edit my last post, however I would like to elaborate;

BM is a wonderful skill for almost any type of hunter, no matter the person's preference. The fact remains that hunters, until 70 and decked out in epic gear, are ranged attackers. No one can defend the fact that the ranged dmg destroys the Melee that hunters can do, again, until higher levels, and even then finding a good melee turns you in to a weak tank with no real purpose of even being a hunter. BM enables you to have your animal tank. With crazy armor and happiness satisfied by cheap meats, being a BM hunter allows you the damage, and the protection. Of course you'll want a few marksmanship talents for +crit, but other than that, you're only hurting yourself.

Aside from contradicting yourself from beginning to end, you hardly made a point, ultimately making your post meaningless. So you have a hunter, and you have it BM spec'd, but you don't think it's the best? Now why would you play and directly spec yourself to something you "know" isn't the best spec for your class?

Also, pulling out the "you live in your mom's basement" insult was uncalled for. It's an obvious reality that you're feeling wrong, so you have to insult others to feel like you've one-up'd the other person.

:[

Edited September 21, 2007 by IanPete

[Prosidius]

I hate raiding yet I love it. :p It's costing me a fortune for pots and I still wanna buy my epic flyer in a few months. I am running kara in Farm mode finally to prepare for Gruul in a few weeks though. :)

[brentaal]

sorry when others pay my monthly fee then they can tellme how to spec untill then they can take all the numbers and so called info and shove it . also i have a hunter and YEs hes is BM spec but what i meant was that spec you linked saying its the BEST spec . may not be the best for everyone ... deal with it or don't /shrug i dont have all day to sit in my moms basement and number crunch what would be the best spec . i spec how i want pick the talents i want :D

Your post makes no sense at all and your insults are really pathetic. All I did was make a constructive post to let you see why me and most hunters think BM is the best, and you reply with that junk. Seriously...

[I am Redbeard]

I really wish this thread was as active as it used to be.

I made a new BE Hunter. BM Spec'd. Already owns face.

[Dotdot]

Im just not replying cause... I dont own or care for huntards. Pallypower!!!!

[I am Redbeard]

Well, I do have a pally too. What type are you?

I'm going to be a prot. pally for now, we'll see where I end up.

level 19, btw.

[jonnjo]

Can someone post todays patch notes. I cant get them at work :blink:

Thanks

[I am Redbeard]

Here are the general patch notes. Class/race specific ones are on the website. I was hesitant to post even this much because it seems like a lot, but the character notes are far, far more lengthy.

World of Warcraft Client Patch 2.2.0 (09/25/2007)

The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/

General

* Voice Chat - The new Voice Chat feature is now available in game. Players will need to go into the Options menu under Sound & Voice to activate it. Volume sliders are available for the microphone, speakers, and game-audio fade (which automatically lowers the game audio when a voice communication is received), as is a ?push-to-talk? setting. Right-clicking on a player?s name now includes the option to mute or unmute that player. Muting another player blocks all voice chat from him or her; the ignore feature now blocks both voice chat and text chat from that player.For the Voice Chat F.A.Q. visit the following links: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...15291&sid=1 http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...12664&sid=1

* Chat Channels- New Chat Channel controls and functionality are now available under the Chat tab in the Social window of the interface. The interface will now show the channels players are in or are available to them, depending on the area of the world they are in, along with the addition of new private channel controls.

* A new feature for reporting players as being AFK in battlegrounds by right clicking has been added. When enough reports are registered, a 60 second debuff will begin to count down. Once the timer is up a new debuff will appear that will prevent the player from gaining any honor while it is on. This debuff can be negated as soon as the player engages in PvP combat.

* Haste: Haste has been rebalanced. It has returned to the ratios from the launch of Burning Crusade. Melee attacks and spell casts will now benefit at identical rates from haste. This change results in a reduction in the benefit of haste for melee attacks and an increase in the benefit for spellcasters.

* Auction House generated emails for successful auction sales will now have a one-hour delay and is no longer instantaneous.

* Troll Berserk: The spell haste on this ability was incorrectly too high and has been corrected.

* Resilience Rating: The reduction to the percent chance to get a critical strike now also reduces the damage dealt by damage over time effects by the same percentage.

* Area Spells: In some cases guards in neutral areas would not aggro against pvp attacks from area spells. That is now fixed.

* Corrected the damage modifier calculation for Resilience when the attacker has bonus critical strike damage.

* Power Regeneration: Any effect which triggers a change in your rate of power regeneration (Mana, Rage, Energy, Focus) will now cause an immediate reward of some power at the old rate of increase, and then begin new ?ticks? of power at the new rate approximately 2 seconds later. This was done to improve functionality of abilities such as Evocation and Innervate so that they did not have wasted ?ticks?.

* Mac Movie Capture: the Mac client can now capture in-game video to QuickTime movie files using a configurable choice of codec, resolution, and frame rate. New keybindings have been added to the Key Bindings dialog. For more detailed configuration options please see the Mac Options panel in game. Mac OS X 10.4.9 and QuickTime 7.1.6 or better are required. Not all machines have enough performance to smoothly capture video at high frame rates; end user experimentation will be required to find appropriate settings for each system.

* Pets are now affected by Paladin greater blessings.

* Kill Triggered Effects: Effects that trigger from killing your target will no longer trigger from killing your pet.

* Non-combat pets may not be selected as the target for spells or abilities.

* Non-combat pets now have the tag "Companion" instead of "Minion".

* Being attacked by guardians, such as summoned Treants, will no longer automatically cause neutral guards to attack you.

* Meeting Stones can no longer be used to summon players that do not meet the level requirements.

* Damage and health leech effects always affect flying players even if they are immune to the rest of the spell?s affects while in flight.

PvP

* Dueling players may not use a Lightwell that they didn?t create themselves.

* Battlegrounds

o Eye of the Storm: The points awarded from capturing the flag now increase based on the number of bases the capturing teams owns.

* Arenas

o Arena calculations have been modified. In addition, the penalty for smaller arena teams (2v2, 3v3) has been slightly reduced.

o Items that are indicated as quest items in their tooltips and have a "use" or "equip" ability will not work in PvP arenas.

o Players will no longer be able to change armor once an arena battle has begun. Changing armor will still be available during the one-minute prep time prior to the battle. Main hand, off hand and ranged weapon swapping in combat remains unchanged.

[jonnjo]

Here are the general patch notes. Class/race specific ones are on the website. I was hesitant to post even this much because it seems like a lot, but the character notes are far, far more lengthy.

Thanks Ian.

Yeah I realize they can be loaded with info. I was mostly intrested in the Voice chat info.

[I am Redbeard]

From what I've heard, and tried to experience, the voice chat isn't working properly. Me and a friend made new chars last night, on one of the Voice Chat Enabled servers (some of the servers don't have it yet, including mine :( ) We couldn't get it to work, at all. I'm not sure if it's working tonight, but I'm sure it is. The techs usually have a lot of stuff to deal with after a new patch.

Anyway, I'll try it again right now, and update later. :]

Edit 1: hahaha, it's hard not to laugh at this one; "I'm not sure if it's working tonight, but I'm sure it is." Curse these wandering fingers.

[jonnjo]

ROFL well it still is not on on the main server I am playing on. I have yet to try on the other servers. I guess I will wait till they figure it out.

I don't know why I care cause I use Vent. Oh well.

[Dark Ride]

What does the majority of you use, Ventrilo or Teamspeak ? And why ? Me and a friend tried Teamspeak. It worked fine for me but he just couldn't get it to work. :(

@ Blitz

Thanks for all the info Blitz. It's very useful and I appreciate it. I'm level 62 now and I'm thinking about going BM but still not sure. I'll think about it and see what's best for me.

Pozdrav. ;)

Edited September 29, 2007 by Dark Ride

[Vice]

* Auction House generated e-mails for successful auction sales will now have a one-hour delay and is no longer instantaneous.

That ^ Is kind of annoying. I get the feeling they are punishing us innocent players for those who buy game gold with real money and are trying to get around the 1 hour money transfer waiting period by cheating the auction system. An hour isn't so bad but its still an annoyance.

[dead.cell]

Anybody read up on the undocumented changes? Apparently, there were quite a few:

World

- New music added to Honor Hold as well as the inns of Ironforge, Stormwind, and Ratchet

- Cho Threadstrong has new sayings he shouts at the fruit vendor (poor fruit vendor)

- Griftah unceremoniously ousted from Shattrath. Now sadly selling his fine wares (at unreasonably cheap prices!) in Terrokar Forest, just outside of the city's south-eastern tunnel at 36, 30 (Thanks, Meadows)

- Flavor text added to goblins at zeppelin flight points

- Chests in Tempest Keep: Mechanar have had their spawn locations change slightly making it impossible (or more difficult...never underestimate a players's tenacity) to solo

- Boats received new music (again? confirm?)

Character Models, Animation, & Spell Effects

- Orc shoulders and off-hand weapons fixed (possible overcompensation for previous bug?)

- Male night elf shoulders arc differently (possible bug? No one seems to mind)

- Cyclone graphic changed to, and I quote, "look more awesome." Awesomeness confirmed

- Evocation's graphic effect updated, seems to be a blue version of the confirmed-awesome cyclone update

- Windfury finishes the updated cyclone trilogy, now larger and darker; fans are divided!

- Prayer of Mending received a new animation

- Hurricane visually seems more selective, targeting victims with bolts of lightening bolts followed by loud booms

- Nethermine Ravager's rock shell ability received a new spell effect

- Druid Moonkin form has a new bandaging/crafting/using animation

- Undead epic horse mount trails longer flames

- Murloc Suits can now /kneel, /laugh, /point, /sit, /talk, and /cheer

- Shaman ghost wolf no longer holds weapons or shield while attacking

- Weapons while in moonkin form appear to have shrunk

- Mass Dispel no longer has a graphic, just shows the dispel animation on anything in the area

- New, flashier graphic for Blessing of Protection and Blessing of Freedom

- Thunderfury' proc does the same thing as Evocate, Cyclone and Windfury (consider it an epilog)

- Spectral Tiger Mount (and Swift Spectral Tiger) updated with brighter armor and fewer seems

- The Astromages inside of the Mechanar had their fire aura effect changed in appearance. Much taller now and has a different graphic surrounding them

- Druid basic flight form flaps it's wings slower now

Items

- Red Ogre Suit is now fixed; weapons scaled down and now seat properly when sheathed

- Non-combat pets now have a 1-second cool-down between summoning and unsummoning

- Aquadynamic Fish Attractors now officially say the duration is 10 minutes as opposed to 5

- Crashn' Thrashn' Robot now will walk around a small area instead of standing in one spot

- Merciless Gladiator's Satin Gloves graphic has been changed from slim and tight to look like the bulky Merciless Gladiator's Mooncloth Gloves

- Sha'tari Skyguard's Enriched Terrocone Juice reputation reward vendor item price increased from 40 copper to 36 silver

- Farmer's Broom 100% beefier

- Moonsoul Crown has been changed from miscellaneous to a cloth item, receiving 39 armor, 50 durability, and a need to be repaired

- Accurate Scope is now a green item instead of white

- Mana potion injector gained charges and flavor text: "They just dont make 'em like this anymore..."

- Merciless Gladiator Shoulders are now orange on dark brown instead of orange on pink

- Coronet of Verdant Flame has been changed from miscellaneous to a cloth item, receiving 138 armor, 60 durability, and a need to be repaired

- Icy Blasting Primers are now made 10 at a time instead of 2, resulting in This results in 1 primal water making 50 frost grenades! Materials remain unchanged

- Goblin Gumbo is now unique, and the kettle has unlimited charges for the 15 minutes

- Nightstaff of the Everliving's texture has changed. It is now blue/gray where it was white

- Gladiator rogue daggers reduced by about 60% in size on blood elf females

- Druid Merciless Gladitor Leggings are now a kilt and have slightly been recolored

Professions

- Fishing: Bobber splash at the end of the timer is adjusted so you don't have to instantly click for fear of missing

- Fishing: The fishing line now instantly appears when you cast

- Enchant Ring - Spellpower materials required changed. Now requires 2 large prismatic shards and 2 greater planar essences

Quests

- Relic's Emanation daily quest money reward decreased while the Ogri'la faction reward was increased (documented somewhere but apparently not well known so here it is. Huzzah!)

- Skettis escort quest reward reduced to 9 gold from 11 gold, 99 silver

UI & Game Mechanics

- Disenchant received a new icon

- Wide screen UI scales differently

- UI Scaling in general appears to be a bit funky and requires some tweaking (Bedemus has generously posted a possible fix at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...=1&pageNo=1 )

- New Auction house alert: "A buyer has been found for your auction of X"

- Error speech re-enabled by default. You require more vespene gas

- One hour delay on receiving currency from successful auctions (there seems to be confusion as to where this note was actually posted so for sanity's sake here it is, possibly again)

- Windowed game begins in the center of the screen instead of the upper-left corner

- New software reverb audio option

- Ogri'la reputation now goes to 999/1000 exalted

- Voidwalker's Suffering spell seems to work immediately when button is selected (what, no more "I can't do that yet?")

- Blessing of Sacrifice is on a 30 second cooldown, not the 1 minute listed in the patch notes

- Targeting for Skettis bombing run improved

- Tracking abilities such as "Find Minerals" now last through death

- Unable to fly into the water while on a mount or in flight form

- Warlock pets no longer revert to soul shards when boarding a mount at a flight point

- Druids can use booterang while in flight form

- The debuff from the druid Pounce ability now shows a seperate debuff for the stun and the bleed DoT

- Druids in flight form can now perform herbalism provided they are on the ground

- Earth elemental corpses (in Nagrand at least) are now minable

- /mountspecial cannot be used while moving

- The World Defense Channel is once again open to the masses

- Disobedient Dragonmaw Peons are now spelled correctly, it was 'Disobediant'

- Shifting now removes Shabby Arakkoa Disguise

- Buffs now have a new grey dot if players are in range of your spell, as well as the red dot that indicated someone is out of range

- Auto-loot button setting in Interface options has reverted to the default option

Source

I also read from what was posted on the Blizzard forums that they've got new inn music and stuff for Horde made. It's just a matter of sticking it in the next patch as they seem to be trying not to make enormous patches. :yes:

[spikey_richie]

The new AH system sucks hard! But at least it'll beat some of the gold farmers.

Other than that, I've not come across anything else which affects me as a lock (yet)

[gregb0b]

I've not come across anything else which affects me as a lock (yet)

lol.

[gigapixels Veteran]

Mih, I don't mind the AH change since it doesn't affect buying. Right now (at level 26) I don't sell too much stuff as I'm an enchanter and use up any greens I get (and can't or don't need to equip) for disenchanting.

- Shaman ghost wolf no longer holds weapons or shield while attacking

Heh, I noticed that on my Shaman. It was pretty funny :laugh:

[I am Redbeard]

So!

Anyone try the voice chat?

I haven't heard anyone else speak, but I spoke to a few, and they said they could hear my clear as a bell.

My friend said the voice receiving was terrible, and needed work, but again, I haven't heard anyone so, I can't confirm.

[spikey_richie]

Not all realms have voice active yet, Stonemaul is one of those w/out.

[Minifig]

My new main toon. Level 17 Warlock.

I love him to bits...

Anyone know any really good 2.2 compliant Warlock UI's while I wait for Mazzlefizz to update?

[I am Redbeard]

All servers down from 3am West coast (6 am eastern time), till 1 western time (4 eastern).

BACK UP.

Edited October 2, 2007 by IanPete

[spikey_richie]

My new main toon. Level 17 Warlock.

I love him to bits...

Anyone know any really good 2.2 compliant Warlock UI's while I wait for Mazzlefizz to update?

Necrosis (sp) is/was supposed to be good, but I couldn't add all of the spells (some afflic ones were missing as standard).

I use a lot of addons, but none of them are lock specific.

Are you going afflic/demons/desto? I was destp for most of my 40s and 50s, but have been demons since the felguard came along.

[I am Redbeard]

My new main toon. Level 17 Warlock.

I love him to bits...

Ew.

Your first mistake in playing was choosing alliance.

Your second being that you chose a lock. Hahaa.

Of all the combinations...

[spikey_richie]

That's all down to personal taste IanPete.

I am on the dark side, but am also a lock.

Let me guess, you're a horde Rogue or Druid?