Official Superbowl XXXIX Discussion

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Who do you think will win the super bowl this year?  

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  1. 1. Who do you think will win the super bowl this year?

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just a quick question what is superbowl? is it baskteball, basball or hockey or what? (never did understand US sports) and is it some sort of final?

anyway i hope new england win.. cuz they named after the country i live in :D

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Campionship game for the NFL. its football (not soccer)

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thats what the pats had to endure when they won their first superbowl....if you remember, ever expert said pats had no chance of winning their SB in 2001 or whatever it was.

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Eh your right. History shows that favored teams don't always win in the Super Bowl. Like you said, no one would have thought the Patriots could beat the Rams in 2001.

That is the other thing that sort of peeves me. I don't understand why they are being called a dynasty. They barely won their Super Bowls, they have beat their opponents by like 3 points. If it wasn't for the stupid tuck rule they would not have been in the super bowl in 2001. People also seem to forget or disregard that the Patriots were 9-7 in 2002 and never made the playoffs. I don't think they were really dominant like dynasties like the Cowboys or Steelers of the past.

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Has anyone watched ESPN lately?  Can they hype up the Patriots are going to win the Super Bowl any more then they are aleady doing?  Man I got sick of it after watching for 5 minutes last night.  They made it seem like the Eagles were content with winning the NFC and are lucky to be in the Super Bowl.  It may be just me, but since the beginning of the playoffs I have really started to hate them.

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The Pats have been overlooked all season by these guys and they pretty much counted them out of the last two games, too. It's basically just them eating their words. They gave the Pats no respect until now.

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Eh your right.  History shows that favored teams don't always win in the Super Bowl.  Like you said, no one would have thought the Patriots could beat the Rams in 2001.

That is the other thing that sort of peeves me.  I don't understand why they are being called a dynasty.  They barely won their Super Bowls, they have beat their opponents by like 3 points. If it wasn't for the stupid tuck rule they would not have been in the super bowl in 2001.  People also seem to forget or disregard that the Patriots were 9-7 in 2002 and never made the playoffs.  I don't think they were really dominant like dynasties like the Cowboys or Steelers of the past.

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blowouts or not though...a superbowl win is a win. it doesn't really matter how you got it. you can't take that away from them just because they were close games. 2 out of 3 years is pretty impressive these days, and if they get 3 out of 4, thats a dynasty IMO.

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blowouts or not though...a superbowl win is a win.  it doesn't really matter how you got it.  you can't take that away from them just because they were close games.  2 out of 3 years is pretty impressive these days, and if they get 3 out of 4, thats a dynasty IMO.

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I some what disagree with you. There has been many times during games where the refs has decided the out come. Majority of the time, they let the players play and put away their flags. As long as one team doesn't win because of a ref, then its a win, but if a ref decides the out come, then it sucks for the other team. I do agree with the dynasty part tho.

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That is the other thing that sort of peeves me.  I don't understand why they are being called a dynasty.  They barely won their Super Bowls, they have beat their opponents by like 3 points. If it wasn't for the stupid tuck rule they would not have been in the super bowl in 2001.  People also seem to forget or disregard that the Patriots were 9-7 in 2002 and never made the playoffs.  I don't think they were really dominant like dynasties like the Cowboys or Steelers of the past.

Oh man I take offense to that ( as a loyal patriots and sports fan). I don't not think they can technically be called a dynasty now, but if they pull off this win they will be. In this football age with the cap and free agency being consistent is incredibly difficult. This season, and last season, the Pats played with more different starters than any other NFL team and still managed to dominate. That speaks volumes not only of the coaching staff but also of the overall pysche of the team - they do what they can to help them win and take no glory for themselves.

The tuck rule, also, is a rule, so there's no arguing there (and the Patriots still had to drive down the field, and they still had to make the field goal kick in the snow, so it's not like the game ended right there).

And not really dominant? They've two games the entire season, and lost two games last season. Belicheck (as of right now) has the same playoff record as Vince Lombardi (arguably the greatest coach of all time). And if they don't dominate a game score wise, they still win - and in the end, that's all that matters.

Also - ref's don't decide the outcome of the game - they're simply regulated the actions of the players, so its not like the games completely change based on the refs.

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Since TO is back in the Super Bowl, and is, according to some sources, just as fast as he was pre-injury, it could change some things.

And no, TO is not risking his career by playing -- bones can be broken, and they heal... even bones that are broken twice (Haha, I stole the quote if you read the article I'm thinking of... plagarism. :))

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I think it is sort of stupid though how much the "experts" build up the Patriots. They seem to like to bring up the fact over and over again that the Patriots beat #1 passing team (Ind) and the #2 rushing team (Pit) in consecutive weeks. Didn't the Eagles just beat the #2 passing team (Min) and the #1 rushing team (Atl) or am I imagining things? They seem to forget that stat.

The wait for this game this week is going to be so painful.

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I think it is sort of stupid though how much the "experts" build up the Patriots.  They seem to like to bring up the fact over and over again that the Patriots beat #1 passing team (Ind) and the #2 rushing team (Pit) in consecutive weeks.  Didn't the Eagles just beat the #2 passing team (Min) and the #1 rushing team (Atl) or am I imagining things?  They seem to forget that stat.

The wait for this game this week is going to be so painful.

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True, but the Colts and Steelers are more of a competition than the Vikings and Falcons.

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True, but the Colts and Steelers are more of a competition than the Vikings and Falcons.

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colts and steelers are more competition? they sure didnt show it during the playoffs. stats are stats, dont favor them when they agree with what you think then then dismiss them when it doesnt.

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colts and steelers are more competition? they sure didnt show it during the playoffs.  stats are stats, dont favor them when they agree with what you think then then dismiss them when it doesnt.

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Colts were 12-4, Pittsburgh was 15-1 against a much more difficult conference. Granted, I think Pittsburgh skated through their season luckily, but they even beat the Eagles.<g>

Minnesota was 8-8, Atlanta was 11-5 against a much weaker conference.

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Colts were 12-4, Pittsburgh was 15-1 against a much more difficult conference.  Granted, I think Pittsburgh skated through their season luckily, but they even beat the Eagles.<g>

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Tougher conference eh? The Patriots couldn't beat the worst team in the easier conference. I would rather get schooled by the Steelers then suffer a humiliating defeat on Monday night football to the Dolphins. :D I know the NFC was bad this year, but I think the Patriots had an easier road to the Superbowl during the Playoffs then the Eagles did. IMO the combination of Manning/Big Ben is easier to play against then Culpepper/Vick.
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Colts were 12-4, Pittsburgh was 15-1 against a much more difficult conference.  Granted, I think Pittsburgh skated through their season luckily, but they even beat the Eagles.<g>

Minnesota was 8-8, Atlanta was 11-5 against a much weaker conference.

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I agree that the conference is more difficult but i still think that the stats still have some weight in regards to what a team does effectively. vikings were a passing team falcons were a running team and they both got stopped. regardless of the quality of opponent they did what they did well.

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yeah, i wouldn't take that dolphins game seriously...the pats shoulda won, but brady made some very unusual mistakes. but yeah, it goes both ways, so a loss is still a loss. but again, brady doens't do that in the playoffs :)

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There are a couple reasons I feel the Eagles will win the superbowl.

Number 1: As a lot of people already stated, Donovan McNabb is not afraid to run with the ball. If he has to he will. The Pat?s, I don?t think, have seen a scrambling QB all season. Plus the Eagles O-line is very strong and aggressive. Half the time, DMC has so much time he could mail the ball to his receiversNumber 2: Anyway you look at it, special teams is the key to good field positioning. The Eagles have this advantage, here?s why. In NE?s 2004 regular season they were ranked 29th in punting avg. and 28th in the oppositions punt reand and kick return average. Whereas Philly ranked 4th in kickoff returns. David Ackers is one the best if not the best kicker in the league. A long deep kick and NE will struggle to return it for any decent yardage. If your line of scrimmage starts at the 15 or so during most of the game, it is going to affect your play calling. I think a lot of people either don?t realize this statistic or feel it doesn?t impact the game THAT much. That?s the secret to this game: SPECIAL TEAMS. Granted, NE does have the ability to move the ball down the field. But the Eagles D has been very strong these past couple games, especially Jeremiah Trotter and Brian Dawkins who have been like pitbulls out on the field.

As for those people who saying, ?ohh it?s gonna be a blow out?, pay closer attention. Anything can happen in this league. People keep saying ?ohh well, the Steelers handed the Eagles their @$$ and we handed the Steelers theirs?, which is true, but NE lost to the Dolphins. That goes to show any team at any time can have a bad game. These are the 2 best teams in NFL They both deserve to be here. It WILL be close game, but I think the EAGLES WILL COME OUT ON TOP.

Being from Philadelphia, we love the fact that we?re the underdog and people keep telling we?re going to lose. It?s what feeds us and this city is hungrier than ever for a championship.

Dynasties don?t last forever and just like ones before NE, and this ?DYNASTYVINCE IS COMING TO PHILLY!!! COMING TO PHILLY!!!

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