QuarterSwede Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 10.5 will be "leopard" or "cheetah", probably. though it might be something really nice, like "lynx". about this coreimage part of tiger, i assume it'll use a good bit of gfx processing power. so a mini or ibook's 32mb radeon 9200 probably wouldn't be able to take it. is this true? i wouldn't be afraid for the geforce fx 5200s in the imac g5s, cause the weakness of those chips is in directx, which apple doesn't use. they should be fine, but i'm eyeing those ibooks...... 585530513[/snapback] Those that are able to beta test it on the mini's and iBook's say it doesn't do the ripple effect in Dashboard which is part of core image. I don't know if that means that no core image OS effects will work or if just some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedc1760 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Jeez, people want this "ripple effect" so bad. I'm not really to concerned with it but I do want it to perform like the way it should. I hope Apple does something about this because lots of people bought the Mini and the iBook, they can't just leave them hanging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher1078 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 It's not really about Tiger peforming how it should, just what the video card is capable of. Tiger's made to take advantage of different video cards, instead of catering to just one or the other. If a lower one can just do some ripple effect but can do virtually everything else, is it really that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman87 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Jeez, people want this "ripple effect" so bad. I'm not really to concerned with it but I do want it to perform like the way it should. I hope Apple does something about this because lots of people bought the Mini and the iBook, they can't just leave them hanging. 585543768[/snapback] Its not just about 'the ripple effect'. Its not being able to run CoreImage. With CoreImage and CoreVideo you can do stuff thats in Motion in real time, throughout OS X. So someone brilliant could supposedly right a program that does image manipulation and their can take advantage of the built in filters in Tiger that would run in Real time. You gotta see last years WWDC video. It has the CoreImage and CoreVideo demo in it and it looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedc1760 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I understand what your saying but the average person isn't going to benefit from CoreImage and CoreVideo. Also your iBook and MacMini users are average users, however the PowerMac and PowerBook users can benefit because they are the "pro" users and it would apply to them. IMO they are more interested in the eyecandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman87 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I understand what your saying but the average person isn't going to benefit from CoreImage and CoreVideo. Also your iBook and MacMini users are average users, however the PowerMac and PowerBook users can benefit because they are the "pro" users and it would apply to them. IMO they are more interested in the eyecandy. 585547578[/snapback] 'Average' users can take advantage of the better user experience. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher1078 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 It probably just comes down to the video cards on iBooks/MacMini's simply can't handle the updated effects without a significant performance hit. I'm sure if Apple could put them on all their newer systems they would because it is a selling tool, especially for the Mac masses. But they also don't want to make an interface that runs choppy like a bad game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmorya Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 I am a newie to MacOS X. I just bought myself a PowerBook G4 and ill never go back to Windows (have used Windows all my life, bought my powerbook this week!). Just wanted to know what the "ripple" effect is cause i have no idea and is this a new feature coming in Tiger? Also, i never knew that MacOS X meant v10... I thought it was just a cool name for the new MacOS. I refer to it as Panther. I hope they keep the name MacOS X, changing only the name from Panther to Tiger etc. I reckon that Lynx (as someone posted before) sounds really cool for v10.5. I love MacOS and cant beleive how many usefull cool features are included. Windows users have no idea what their missing until they try a MacOS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 (edited) I am a newie to MacOS X. I just bought myself a PowerBook G4 and ill never go back to Windows (have used Windows all my life, bought my powerbook this week!). Just wanted to know what the "ripple" effect is cause i have no idea and is this a new feature coming in Tiger?Also, i never knew that MacOS X meant v10... I thought it was just a cool name for the new MacOS. I refer to it as Panther. I hope they keep the name MacOS X, changing only the name from Panther to Tiger etc. I reckon that Lynx (as someone posted before) sounds really cool for v10.5. I love MacOS and cant beleive how many usefull cool features are included. Windows users have no idea what their missing until they try a MacOS! 585572498[/snapback] The ripple effect is just a fun little feature in Tiger. It does the ripple effect when a Dashboard widget "drops" onto the Dashboard workspace. You can also see the ripple effect in Keynote 2 right now. I attached a test movie so you could see it, though the movie's a bit low quality. It looks a lot smoother when it's running natively. droplet.mov About the "performance hit" of Core Image, that has nothing to do with it when talking about the iBook and the Mac mini. It's that the Radeon 9200 doesn't support the right technologies (I think Pixel Shader 2.0) so it can't do all the cool effects. Edited March 5, 2005 by jagedEdge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnesia Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 i've just bought a mini, and I'm not an average user, just a user with a budget. I just wish Apple would offer Mini users some sort of compensation or (mini discount) I'm sure alot of new switchers would be mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 i've just bought a mini, and I'm not an average user, just a user with a budget.I just wish Apple would offer Mini users some sort of compensation or (mini discount) I'm sure alot of new switchers would be mad. 585572564[/snapback] It's not like Core Image is just going to stop working. It'll just reduce what effects it can do so your card won't wonder what the hell it's receiving from OS X and just choke. That's the beauty of Core Image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_logic Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 I just tried the latest build of Tiger. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with the fact that I was running it off of my iPod, but it was quite unstable. I ran it for about an hour and it ended up crashing and I had to use the power button to turn off the computer. This makes me think that Tiger will not be released anytime soon. The graphing calculator is wiched though. And the interface of Mail 2 is better than I imagined from the screenshots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 I just tried the latest build of Tiger. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with the fact that I was running it off of my iPod, but it was quite unstable. I ran it for about an hour and it ended up crashing and I had to use the power button to turn off the computer. This makes me think that Tiger will not be released anytime soon.The graphing calculator is wiched though. And the interface of Mail 2 is better than I imagined from the screenshots. 585574148[/snapback] what is the latest build anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureLogic Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 I just tried the latest build of Tiger. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with the fact that I was running it off of my iPod, but it was quite unstable. I ran it for about an hour and it ended up crashing and I had to use the power button to turn off the computer. This makes me think that Tiger will not be released anytime soon.The graphing calculator is wiched though. And the interface of Mail 2 is better than I imagined from the screenshots. 585574148[/snapback] That doesn't mean anything. The last beta builds of Panther where extremely unstable too... And yeah Mail 2.0 rulez and it's getting better by the build, I miss it every time when going back to Panther! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_logic Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 How is Mail 2 better compare to Mail? I haven't spent enough time on Tiger to know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureLogic Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 How is Mail 2 better compare to Mail? I haven't spent enough time on Tiger to know it. 585574234[/snapback] Smart folders, spotlight integration. But for me it's mostly the dramatic interface change from Mail 1.3, I love the way Mail 2.0 looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman87 Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 I just tried the latest build of Tiger. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with the fact that I was running it off of my iPod, but it was quite unstable. I ran it for about an hour and it ended up crashing and I had to use the power button to turn off the computer. This makes me think that Tiger will not be released anytime soon.The graphing calculator is wiched though. And the interface of Mail 2 is better than I imagined from the screenshots. 585574148[/snapback] I have ran Tiger on the iPod as well and it doesn't compare to running it on a proper Firewire HDD. Tiger feels slower then Panther on the iPod, but when it comes to running it on the HDD it screams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mootymoots Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 isnt running an OS from your little ipod hard-drive a sure fire way to kill it within weeks? Thats what I read? Something to do with the access laser working too hard compared to when its reading music... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted March 11, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 11, 2005 Something to do with the access laser working too hard compared to when its reading music... ? 585600714[/snapback] Hardrives dont use lasers :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mootymoots Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Hardrives dont use lasers :D 585600722[/snapback] Well whatever, im not techie, but you know what I mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger to arrive in April Apple will officially announce Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger's release at an event in early April and will begin shipping the operating system within two or three weeks afterwards, Think Secret has learned. Apple has previously only stated that Tiger will ship during the first half of the 2005 Source: ThinkSecret Do you think its true ? I hope it is that will be awesome :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Probably, the way build 8a393 looks it could be very near to completion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepneon Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 When I see it on AppleInsider, i'll be content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Paul Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Cool, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Dan Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 As Corona Says... it gonna be at stores in April 15.. and its allready in AppleInsider.. Confirmed Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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