[Definitive] Nintendo Wii Thread


Recommended Posts

I've been reading around the forums...and the GC is more powerful than the PS2...? That's a shocker to me. It's lightyears smaller than the PS2, and overpowers it. Think about it. The PS3 is huge, and it looks quite powerful. But watch...the Revolution is going to blow the PS3 away.

585975602[/snapback]

It's different now, the GCN came out I think a year later, so It's understandable it was more sophisticated than the PS2. Plus, Nintendo isn't really focusing on power this time around. However, I believe it will be better, cause of their eternal devotion to better games.

Actually, I just read that article, and this part striked me:

another flap, the important and ominous-looking one on the front, would not open."There's a clue there," we were told by senior Nintendo staff today as we pawed the hardware, which we could power on and off and fully examine. "That's the Revolution, right there." The collective SPOnG mind boggled.

If the controllers are wireless, and they are revolutionary, how can the revolution be that flap? What can go into that flap that is revolutionary? A peripheral? This will keep me up wondering for a while

EDIT: An imgae for those of you also wondering:

e3-2005-hands-on-revolution-20050519020546569.jpg

WOW OMG! the DVD FLOATS IN!

585934336[/snapback]

I really, really needed to post about this :D... i just started to read this thread since it is (as of now) 69 pages long.... i bumped onto this message after 27 pages of tech notes and some funny fights between posters and...

I just cracked. It's almost 4 a.m here and very quiet, and reading this made me shake my entire house... laughed soooo hard that i waked up everybody :rolleyes:

Thanks skase, you reaaally made my day :yes:

Hey, I apologize in advance if anyone has already posted this info, but the thread IS 69 pages long, I couldn't bring myself to read it all. :sleep:

I was watching G4TV's interview with Reggie Fils-Aime, and he dropped another interesting hint about Rev's controller. The interviewer (who apparently has no lips) asked Reggie if he could spill any beans on the new interface, and Reggie started giving the old company line -- secrecy and all that jazz -- but then he said something interesting. He mentioned the backwards compatibility with the previous Nintendo systems, and then pointed out that all those systems had very different controllers (well, N64 did anyway). He encouraged the lipless interviewer to imagine an interface that would let you play ALL of those games, without the need for all the controllers.

My first response was, "WOW, what a huge hint!" But, I've been racking my brains trying to figure out what he meant, and not only am I not coming up with anything (anything FEASIBLE, anyhow), but I don't see how that fits in with the VR headset stuff that Erich has been so convincingly arguing. I figured I'd let you guys have a go at some ideas.

:wacko:

Oh, here's the video, so you can hear what he really says (sorry for not quoting directly, but I'm trying to get to bed BEFORE 6 AM today).

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/617/617872/vids_1.html

Lodsiek

yeah, seen a similar interview where he says the same. but i don't see what's amazing about that... i mean, the GC controller could play NES and SNES games if you wanted. can't you play gameboy games with that adapter using a GC controller?

the revolution could be a regular controller and still control games from all these systems.

Hey, I apologize in advance if anyone has already posted this info, but the thread IS 69 pages long, I couldn't bring myself to read it all.  :sleep:

I was watching G4TV's interview with Reggie Fils-Aime, and he dropped another interesting hint about Rev's controller.  The interviewer (who apparently has no lips) asked Reggie if he could spill any beans on the new interface, and Reggie started giving the old company line -- secrecy and all that jazz -- but then he said something interesting.  He mentioned the backwards compatibility with the previous Nintendo systems, and then pointed out that all those systems had very different controllers (well, N64 did anyway).  He encouraged the lipless interviewer to imagine an interface that would let you play ALL of those games, without the need for all the controllers.

My first response was, "WOW, what a huge hint!"  But, I've been racking my brains trying to figure out what he meant, and not only am I not coming up with anything (anything FEASIBLE, anyhow), but I don't see how that fits in with the VR headset stuff that Erich has been so convincingly arguing.  I figured I'd let you guys have a go at some ideas.

:wacko:

Oh, here's the video, so you can hear what he really says (sorry for not quoting directly, but I'm trying to get to bed BEFORE 6 AM today).

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/617/617872/vids_1.html

Lodsiek

585976662[/snapback]

yep noticed that too.

my guese is a touchscreen... i sure hope they keep an analogue on it though >___>

:D ZJODEN

I'd normally agree with you, snappyfool, but Reggie did say it in direct response to a question about the controller, so it's got to be some kind of hint. No, I don't think a normally-buttoned controller would be revolutionary. Obviously, there's something about the Revtroller that Nintendo thinks is really, really intuitive.

Lodsiek

Actually, with the GCN controller you could play any Nintendo game from the prevoius consoles. Now, the Rev games, that's another story.

One thing I was thinking. If this thread got so big with just the few things Nintendo let out, can you imagine how big it'll get when they release more info, or when the actual thing comes out?

There will be so much toilet paper being flushed on the day they do, it'll block the worlds sewer system. :p

We already know what's behind the flap, that's where the SD cards will go. For additional storage space.

585976275[/snapback]

Do you have link to where I can read about someone saying that? (not that I don't trust you, just want the read their actual words). The flap thing got me thinking a lot, and it could be that you can connect something else than the SD cards. Or maybe the revolution comes with the way the cards are used? Like the way the writable drive for N64 was supose the work ?

Do you have link to where I can read about someone saying that? (not that I don't trust you, just want the read their actual words). The flap thing got me thinking a lot, and it could be that you can connect something else than the SD cards. Or maybe the revolution comes with the way the cards are used? Like the way the writable drive for N64 was supose the work ?

585977134[/snapback]

...

Meanwhile, a flap on the front of the machine hides the slots for the 512MB memory cards that Revolution utilizes for downloads and game saves. What about the back of the unit, though? Tech-nuts want to know, what kind of outputs does the machine have? Well, there are two USB ports and a power connection. The machine features no digital audio out. Instead, it boasts a single proprietary output for video and audio. The output looks exactly like the component out on GameCube.

Source: http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617195p1.html

I honestly don't want a touchscreen controller. It's revolutionary to a point. But at the same time recycling old Nintendo ideas. (DS)

585984375[/snapback]

I doubt there would be a touchscreen. Nintendo is hiding their controller because they are afraid of Sony/Microsoft of stealing. If this is a touchscreen, there is nothing to hide.

a touch skwcreen would be kinda award for a console. the tv or monitor is the main place where the gameplay is displayed. why would one wanna move your head far enough away from the main display to look at the touchscreen (and vice versa)?

585984423[/snapback]

Obviously you havn't played Zelda Four Swords. I love the concept of having my own screen sometimes. Would make a revolutionary way of playing multiplayer first person shooters.

Why lan 4 XBOX's together when you can connect 16 wireless controllers to the revolution and everybody can have their own screen.

thats my best case scenerio with a screen built into a controller.

But.. I don't think it will happen.

Fans (Yes, Even myself) of Nintendo are Loyal, but Nintendo is just keeping deliver short of expecations, to me :(

At the press conference, Nintendo didn't impressed me at all!

Ok, it's 3 VHS tapes size... So? Where are any of the specs?

Ok, it can play All the past Nintendo games... How? Do I have to pay for each game, or they are all FREE? They didn't say.

Ok, it can go online as well... Xbox shows Live and it's really impressive. Nintendo also didn't show us anything.

And, where the hell are the Revolution games demos? PS3 and Xbox 360 All showed them!

I am not trying to troll here, I AM a former fan of Nintendo! However, now I am just losing faith in them!

Fans (Yes, Even myself) of Nintendo are Loyal, but Nintendo is just keeping deliver short of expecations, to me :(

At the press conference, Nintendo didn't impressed me at all!

Ok, it's 3 VHS tapes size... So? Where are any of the specs?

Ok, it can play All the past Nintendo games... How? Do I have to pay for each game, or they are all FREE? They didn't say.

Ok, it can go online as well... Xbox shows Live and it's really impressive. Nintendo also didn't show us anything.

And, where the hell are the Revolution games demos? PS3 and Xbox 360 All showed them!

I am not trying to troll here, I AM a former fan of Nintendo! However, now I am just losing faith in them!

585986463[/snapback]

Nintendo said they wouldn't release any specs until Sony made their specs concrete. At this point chances are Nintendo is not even finished designing some aspects of the hardware like the CPU or GPU or if they want they can modify the hardware in response to what they saw at the E3.

They are probably going to release more info in August if they do Space World or wait till next year's E3 because it will be closer to the release. You can't blame them for waiting till it gets closer to release, their ideals have been stolen in the past and there is nothing to stop them from getting stolen now. Plus let Sony and MS fight for the spotlight this E3, they can have the next E3 for themselves.

Also I seriously doubt the library of 20 years of games are going to be free downloads. If they allow downloads of third party games, I am sure the developers of those games will want something in return. I am guessing the service is going to be something along the lines of iTunes.

Edited by jmole
Ok, at least they got all that time after Xbox 360 & PS3 comes out...  I hope they try to have graphics as good as those, if not better.

585986557[/snapback]

Why? Graphics matter so much? There is a limit on how much power the small console will be able to contain. PS3 and X-box 360 is 3-4 times as big.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • I think he means you haven't reviewed previous UFC games. Of course it doesn't matter... Every time you just report on something that involves the President even if just simply what happened you guys usually get accused of being anti-Trump. We live in fun times.
    • So how did you solve the problem? Disabling Secure Boot isn’t a solution.
    • Another devilish issue surrounding these certificates is what can happen with old, unsuspecting PCs that nevertheless have Secure Boot enabled. In my case, it was a Dell with a 3rd-gen Core chip (so about 13 years old). As of the last few weeks, it was suddenly BSOD'g within about 5 minutes of booting. Turns out it was because of MS's "Secure-Boot-Update" scheduled task, which is scheduled to run 5 minutes after login. It's explained in gory detail here (this is not my post, but it was where I found the answer), but the short version is that this legacy system would need fairly elaborate, manual certificate intervention since MS's automatic cert update method cannot work. How to do that is linked late in the thread. https://www.bleepingcomputer.c...od-caused-by-scheduled-task Secure Boot wasn't at all important for this particular PC, so I disabled it to be done with the problem.
    • Winhance 26.06.12 by Razvan Serea Winhance is an open-source Windows enhancement utility designed to help users debloat, optimize, and customize Windows 10 and 11. It provides a user-friendly interface for removing unwanted apps, legacy components, and optional features safely, giving you more control over your system. With Winhance, you can improve performance, reduce clutter, and enhance privacy without the need for a clean install. Beyond basic debloating, Winhance offers extensive optimization tools. Users can tweak power plans, adjust gaming and performance settings, control notifications, and manage Windows Update behavior. Privacy-focused settings allow you to limit telemetry and data collection, while system customization options let you personalize the taskbar, Start menu, Explorer, and Windows themes. Winhance also supports installing or removing software efficiently, including external apps via WinGet integration, streamlining both new setups and daily maintenance. New AI privacy groups have been added for Windows AI, Microsoft Edge AI, and Microsoft Office AI, giving users clearer control over AI-related telemetry and feature usage. In addition, new settings in Gaming & Performance introduce AI taskbar pin toggles, options to remove AI apps, and controls for AI services and scheduled tasks, allowing users to better manage how AI components run in the background and appear in the system. For advanced users and IT professionals, Winhance integrates WIMUtil, a tool for creating custom Windows installation ISOs with automated configuration. You can generate autounattend.xml files, inject drivers, and apply your chosen Winhance settings automatically during installation. Most changes are non-destructive and reversible, with clear explanations in the GUI. Whether you’re optimizing a single PC or managing multiple systems, Winhance delivers a faster, cleaner, and highly personalized Windows experience. The Winhance.Installer.exe includes both Installable and Portable versions during setup. Winhance supports both Windows 10 and Windows 11 64-bit versions. It's regularly updated to ensure compatibility with the latest Windows updates and features. Winhance key features: Debloat Windows – Safely remove unwanted apps, features, and legacy components. Optimize Performance – Tune system settings for speed, responsiveness, and gaming. Privacy Enhancements – Control telemetry, data collection, and notifications. Power Management – Configure power plans and advanced energy settings. Windows Update Control – Adjust update behavior for stability and convenience. Theme Customization – Switch between light/dark mode and adjust system colors. Taskbar & Start Menu Tweaks – Modify layout, icons, and behavior. Explorer Customization – Adjust file explorer appearance and functionality. Software Management – Install/remove Windows apps and optional features. External Apps Installation – Deploy essential apps via WinGet integration. Configuration Management – Save, export, and import Winhance settings easily. Automation with WIMUtil – Create custom Windows ISOs with integrated settings. Autounattend.xml Generator – Automate Windows installations with preconfigured options. Driver Integration – Include current system drivers in custom ISOs. Non-Destructive Changes – Reversible settings with clear explanations in the GUI. Winhance 26.06.12 changelog: Features Builder Mode — build a Winhance config file or autounattend.xml without changing anything on the PC you're sitting at. Flip the new mode switcher to Builder, set everything the way you want it, and save the result as a Winhance config or an autounattend file ready for deployment on other machines. Sponsors & Supporters page — the exit donation dialog is gone. In its place, an in-app page (heart icon or the More menu) recognizes the businesses and individual supporters who keep Winhance free. It works offline and is fully localized. Change History — Winhance now keeps a receipt of everything it does. ChangeHistory.txt records every setting change (before and after values) and every app install or removal, with clear headers for config imports and bulk actions. Open it from the More menu. Hebrew language support — Winhance is now available in 29 languages. New Explorer customizations: desktop icon visibility toggles, This PC folder visibility, an icon cache size setting, and automatic thumbnail cache cleanup. New "All apps view" setting for the redesigned Windows 11 Start menu, and the Windows 11 system tray icons setting is now a dropdown with more control. App-local UI zoom — press Ctrl +/-/0 or use Ctrl+MouseWheel to scale the whole app, just like a browser. New External Apps: EA app, Ubisoft Connect, Battle.net, Rockstar Games Launcher, PowerShell, and Helium Browser. Bug Fixes Layouts no longer clip when the Windows text size slider is set above 100%. Accessibility: Narrator now announces setting names on toggles and dropdowns, previously unlabeled buttons are labeled, and progress updates are announced. Silent updates now respect your custom install location instead of reverting to the default. Cancel in Review Mode no longer clears your app selections. OneNote is now detected correctly for Win32 Click-to-Run installs. Clean Start Menu applies more reliably by also writing the group policy path. WinGet errors are no longer silent — error details now show in the terminal output. Fixed a startup crash on older Windows builds caused by a .NET runtime regression. Config import now converts power setting values correctly and no longer re-applies an already-active power plan. Improvements App icons load noticeably faster and cover almost everything now, including legacy capabilities and optional features — they come from a dedicated, checksum-validated icon repository and are fetched in parallel. Software & Apps polish: per-icon tooltips, extra table columns, an app sort dropdown, relocated search, and a cleaner compact view. A warning now appears when the Connected Devices Platform Service is set to Manual or Disabled, since some Windows features depend on it. Download: Winhance 26.06.12 | 61.5 MB (Open Source) Links: Winhance Website | Github | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Microsoft Windows 11 Pro and Office Home & Business 2024 is still 69% off by Steven Parker Today's highlighted deal comes via our Apps + Software section of the Neowin Deals store, where you can save 69% on Windows 11 Pro + Microsoft Office Home & Business 2024. Upgrade your computing experience with Windows 11 Pro. This cutting-edge operating system boasts a sleek new design and advanced tools to help you work faster and smarter. From creative projects to gaming and beyond, Windows 11 delivers the power and flexibility you need to achieve your goals. With a focus on productivity, the new features are easy to learn and use, enhancing your workflow and efficiency. Whether you're a student, professional, gamer, or creative, Windows 11 Home has everything you need to take your productivity to the next level. New interface. easier on the eyes & easier to use Biometrics login*.Encrypted authentication & advanced antivirus defenses DirectX 12 Ultimate. Play the latest games with graphics that rival reality. DirectX 12 Ultimate comes ready to maximize your hardware* Screen space. Snap layouts, desktops & seamless redocking Widgets. Stay up-to-date with the content you love & the new you care about Microsoft Teams. Stay in touch with friends and family with Microsoft Teams, which can be seamlessly integrated into your taskbar** Wake & lock. Automatically wake up when you approach and lock when you leave Smart App Control. Provides a layer of security by only permitting apps with good reputations to be installed Windows Studio Effects. Designed with Background Blur, Eye Contact, Voice Focus, & Automatic Framing Touchscreen. For a true mouse-less or keyboard-less experience TPM 2.0. Helps prevent unwanted tampering Windows 11 Pro also includes a number of productivity-focused features, such as the ability to snap multiple windows together and create custom layouts, improved voice typing, and a new, more powerful search experience. Personal and professional users will enjoy a modern and secure computing experience, with improved performance and productivity features to help users get more done. Only on Windows 11 Pro If you require enterprise-oriented features for your daily professional tasks, then Windows 11 Pro is a better option. Set up with a local account (only when set up for work or school) Join Active Directory/Azure AD Hyper-V Windows Sandbox Microsoft Remote Desktop BitLocker device encryption Windows Information Protection Mobile device management (MDM) Group Policy Enterprise State Roaming with Azure Assigned Access Dynamic Provisioning Windows Update for Business Kiosk mode Maximum RAM: 2TB Maximum no. of CPUs: 2 Maximum no. of CPU cores: 128 Good to know: Length of access: lifetime Redemption deadline: redeem your code within 30 days of purchase Access options: desktop Max number of device(s): 1 Version: Windows 11 Pro Updates included Click here to verify Microsoft partnership Created with ChatGPT The essentials to get it all done. Microsoft Office 2024 Home is the latest version of Microsoft’s renowned productivity suite, which includes essential applications like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote. This version is specifically designed for individuals and families seeking reliable tools for various home tasks, including document creation, spreadsheet management, presentation design, and note-taking. Office Home 2024 is for students and families who want classic Office apps on their Mac or PC. A one-time purchase installed on 1 PC or Mac for use at home or school. Lifetime license for MS Word, Excel, PowerPoint, & OneNote One-time purchase installed on 1 Windows PC for use at home or work Instant Delivery & Download – access your software license keys and download links instantly Free customer service – only the best support! Microsoft Office 2024 Home or Business for PC or Mac includes: Microsoft Office Word Microsoft Office Excel Microsoft Office PowerPoint Microsoft Office OneNote Is it legit? Click here to verify Microsoft partnership Good to Know ONE-TIME PURCHASE INSTALLED ON 1 DEVICE This licensing type will be connected with your Microsoft Account, NOT your actual device. This is a one-use code. The product you are purchasing is NOT MICROSOFT 365. Please read the product details. Redemption deadline: redeem your code within 30 days of purchase Access options: desktop Full versions No subscriptions – no monthly/annual fees Version: 2024 Updates included Here's the deal: This Microsoft Office Pro 2024 + Windows 11 Pro bundle normally costs $448.99, but this deal can be yours from just $134.97, that's a saving of $314. For full terms, specifications, and license info please click the link below. Microsoft Office Pro 2024 + Windows 11 Pro for just $134.97 (was $448.99) Although priced in U.S. dollars, this deal is available for digital purchase worldwide. Support queries If you have queries or need support for any of the Neowin Deals, please use the contact form here. Neowin Deals are managed and sold by StackCommerce who represent Neowin on an affiliate basis. Why we post these deals We post these because we earn commission on each sale so as not to rely solely on advertising, which many of our readers block. It all helps toward paying staff reporters, servers and hosting costs. So for those that keep moaning and complaining, be thankful we're still online for you to even do that. Other ways to support Neowin Whitelist Neowin by not blocking our ads Create a free member account to see fewer ads Make a donation to support our day to day running costs Subscribe to Neowin - for $14 a year, or $28 a year for an ad-free experience Disclosure: Neowin benefits from revenue of each sale made through our branded deals site powered by StackCommerce.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Conversation Starter
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • One Month Later
      AndreaB earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Month Later
      agatameier earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      agatameier earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      ssd21345 earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      518
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      198
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      147
    4. 4
      ATLien_0
      95
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      77
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!