giantsnyy2002 Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 um... thats only darwin, not OSX. Darwin is essentially linux. It doesnt even come with X Windows System or Aqua. Its just plain darwin, nothing else. How do i know? i've had it for several months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickedkitten Veteran Posted July 7, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2002 Originally posted by giantsnyy2002 um... thats only darwin, not OSX. Darwin is essentially linux. It doesnt even come with X Windows System or Aqua. Its just plain darwin, nothing else. How do i know? i've had it for several months... thats in response to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usr.bin Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 Originally posted by Wickedkitten thats in response to what? I believe in responce to: "Darwin Quartz, OpenGL, Quicktime audio <----media Cocoa, java 2, carbon, classic<-----framework aqua, applescript<-----aqua" It appears to me that he thinks you were listing something about Darwin and is under the mistaken impression that you are running Darwin and not OSX. I could be mistaken. The reply was cryptic and I'm retarded. --dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickedkitten Veteran Posted July 7, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2002 Originally posted by hkey_root I believe in responce to: "Darwin Quartz, OpenGL, Quicktime audio <----media Cocoa, java 2, carbon, classic<-----framework aqua, applescript<-----aqua" It appears to me that he thinks you were listing something about Darwin and is under the mistaken impression that you are running Darwin and not OSX. I could be mistaken. The reply was cryptic and I'm retarded. --dave I would hope not considering the fact that I put OSX is essentially from the ground up:Darwin Quartz, OpenGL, Quicktime audio <----media Cocoa, java 2, carbon, classic<-----framework aqua, applescript<-----aqua Darwin, Media, Frameworks and Aqua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usr.bin Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 Originally posted by Wickedkitten I would hope not considering the fact that I put Well, loads of people have replied to posts and not read the thread, or the entireity of other posts. I won't mention any names right now. (But a certain person does in fact spring to mind that didn't quite read an entire poll and because of that made not one, but two different individual edits to try and clairify what he meant and never really got the point across i don't believe.) --dave [edit] Just incase some mods think I'm breaking the "No Racism, No Threatening, No (citing) Victimization (via PM) or Hateful posts" rule and I get in trouble and a huge scene on Neowin breaks out, let me just clairify that the above mentioned retard was in fact me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 Darwin the the real OS, the GUI is just something on top, which uses the Darwin kernel and doesn't address hardware directly, thus it could potentially work on the x86 Darwin kernel by recompiling it only. Also who knows what Apple will do, if they want to focus more on software and less on hardware, a x86 port can be possible. We got a graphics guy in our company a couple of days ago, shipped with a Mac ( :D ), I played with the thing around, it's pretty nice, but I wouldn't work 24/7 with it. I hate especially the Finder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickedkitten Veteran Posted July 7, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2002 Originally posted by Tom Servo Darwin the the real OS, the GUI is just something on top, which uses the Darwin kernel and doesn't address hardware directly, thus it could potentially work on the x86 Darwin kernel by recompiling it only. So I guess Quartz, Cocoa, and Carbon have nothing to do with it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted July 7, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2002 how about timmy just smack everyone that ask this ;) if there EVER WAS an APPLE operating system on the i386 it would NOT BE OSX! Osx will be like 10 years old at the time more like osxv or something like that. so no need to ask cause hte answer is and will always be (for a while) no :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosignull Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 Wickedkitten: i suspect what Wing ment was does aqua run fast. My g3 300 caould take on aqua easily if i had some desent gfx hardware in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickedkitten Veteran Posted July 7, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2002 Originally posted by Zerosignull Wickedkitten: i suspect what Wing ment was does aqua run fast. My g3 300 caould take on aqua easily if i had some desent gfx hardware in there yeah it runs fast, theres a gf2mx in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosignull Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 gf2 mx .. urgh!!! i dont know y for the extra $10-$20 apple dont stick in a propa gf2 like a gf2 pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unspec Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 Because not all GeForce cards will fit in a Cube. -- unspec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickedkitten Veteran Posted July 7, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2002 Originally posted by Zerosignull gf2 mx .. urgh!!! i dont know y for the extra $10-$20 apple dont stick in a propa gf2 like a gf2 pro consider the fact that the cube is now over 2 years old and the newer macs come with gf4 ti's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosignull Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 the nu e/imac's comes with gf2 mx and the g4 minitowers come with a gf4 mx with the exception of on model that comes with a radeon 7.5k ither with was u look at it the gf2 mx is ****e ... cost a lot to get a gf4 ti in a mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unspec Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Of course it costs a lot. They're not some cheap knock-off of the Nvidia reference design. They are also re-engineered with an ADC, for ease of use with the LCD displays. -- unspec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosignull Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Originally posted by unspec Of course it costs a lot. They're not some cheap knock-off of the Nvidia reference design. They are also re-engineered with an ADC, for ease of use with the LCD displays. -- unspec ADC is just a DVI port and all nu gfx cards come with DVI ports and standard db 15 (pc vga) ports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unspec Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 No actually an ADC port carries the USB information and power (for the USB hub on the screens), the power for the screen itself, and the screen information (using the same signal as DVI does). All of this is pumped through the card. A bit more than just a DVI connector, wouldn't you say? -- unspec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyy4 Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 That wouldn't be too bad of an idea... I'd love to take OSX out on a spin. How big of a learning curve for Windows XP users switching over to MacOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unspec Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Quite honestly if you're an average computer user OS X should be a very small learning curve. The best thing is that if you yust like "lickable buttons" that's all you have to use. However if you want to delve deeper, there is a whole lot of BSD goodness underneath. -- unspec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intensityx Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 :ponder: If I had a gun, I would kill this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unspec Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Originally posted by intensityx :ponder: If I had a gun, I would kill this thread. Well to be fair you didn't have to read it, or add a new post to it. Making it last all the longer. :rolleyes: -- unspec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 So I guess Quartz, Cocoa, and Carbon have nothing to do with it right? They run ON the kernel, and per theory should not access hardware directly, so a recompile could be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advocate Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Just thought I'd add a little spice to this thread ;) The whole reason people want to see OS X on the x86 architecture is because GOOD spec x86 machines are affordable, unlike MAC's. To get a GF4 Ti as standard you have to spend over ?3500 + monitor!! Take a look at my rig in the wallpapers thread, total cost to replace isn't even ?2000.... and that's with TWO monitors.... *sigh* people just don't understand do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzla Veteran Posted July 9, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by Advocate Just thought I'd add a little spice to this thread ;) The whole reason people want to see OS X on the x86 architecture is because GOOD spec x86 machines are affordable, unlike MAC's. To get a GF4 Ti as standard you have to spend over ?3500 + monitor!! Take a look at my rig in the wallpapers thread, total cost to replace isn't even ?2000.... and that's with TWO monitors.... *sigh* people just don't understand do they? b> ?3500 is a bit over the top. I can buy the cheapest powermac today and put in a GF4 Ti PC card. That is under ?1500, all I would need is a monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33T P3NIS Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 i have succesfully installed osx on my pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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