dickey500 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 It clearly doesn't say when the Meta Puzzle challenge ends, if you strongly believe you havethe right answer just enter it, but don't patronize others that want to keep thinking and working towards finding a more logical outcome. My .02 You don' t think that the latin anagram HEDERA (from Hardee) which translates to "Ivy" is a logical answer? If the meta puzzle didn't have an end - why would they have modified the roamingroaming page TWO TIMES in one day to help us get the answer. If there's no time constraint, why would they feel the need to help us so quickly. I'm pretty confident that MS/AMD doesn't want to waste any more time waiting for the right answer - they essentially handed it to us to ensure a winner when the remainder of the contest ends. Feel free to keep trying, but my 2 cents is that they want us to be done by tomorrow... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbitjeff Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Some Anagrams of "Hardee Tanli". Probably not useful, but here are a few interesting or silly results: A THREAD LINE A LAD THEREIN A LAND ETHER I A RATE HELD IN HEADLINE ART HEALED TRAIN EARTHED NAIL HEAD RATLINE HEAD RELIANT HEAD RETINAL HEAD LATRINE HEAD EAR LINT INHALED TEAR INHALED RATE HARDLINE TEA HARDLINE ATE HANDIER TALE HANDLE IRATE LINEAR DEATH HER IDEAL TAN NAILED HEART NAILED EARTH DENIAL EARTH LEAD HAIR NET INHALE TREAD DRAIN THE ALE RADIANT HEEL ARENA HELD IT HER ANAL TIDE IDEA ENTHRAL RELIANT HEAD I found "Drain the ale" and "Her anal tide" especially amusing. Dont think any of them were useful, though... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 (edited) You don' t think that the latin anagram HEDERA (from Hardee) which translates to "Ivy" is a logical answer?If the meta puzzle didn't have an end - why would they have modified the roamingroaming page TWO TIMES in one day to help us get the answer. If there's no time constraint, why would they feel the need to help us so quickly. I'm pretty confident that MS/AMD doesn't want to waste any more time waiting for the right answer - they essentially handed it to us to ensure a winner when the remainder of the contest ends. Feel free to keep trying, but my 2 cents is that they want us to be done by tomorrow... Because they are obviously monitoring what we transpire here and other online forums, etc, and realized that it was impossible to arrive to the correct answer without knowing exactly what coordinates where the correct ones for the starting point and what tool and how they used it to obtain the distances... in short words a litle snafu. I'm sure they want to have a winner, they want the buzz around it, as I said before after all this is just a clever marketing campaign. Meanwhile I keep searching and learning about stuff I never read before, I won't feel bad if I'm proven wrong, after all I had a lot of fun, met a lot of new "online" friends, learned a lot from them, joined neowin that is an excelent place to hang around about other matters besides this game, and I'm cool that I tried hard. My philosophy is, the fun is on playing the game, not just being the winner, so enjoy the ride no matter if you are the first one to arrive ... Cheers Edited January 30, 2007 by confusio Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modo100 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I still believe (I know, I know, I said it n-times already) that the correct answer is NOT the names of the four sisters, we still seem to be fixated on that and not exploring other alternatives. Confusio has been correct on almost everything he's called since box 1. So I tend to believe that he's right, again. It does say what IS my name....not what are my names. The 4th sister is disappearing, just like Hardee? In the final video the first 3 are holding thier props but the 4th one has nothing. She is the most adimant about the Seven brothers book. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falor42 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Not sure how relevant, but has anyone else connected that there is NO story about seven chinese brothers. The original folklore version had 10 brothers, the subsequent "Americanized" childerns tale had five.... Loki is to smart to make that kind of mistake. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentleman Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 (edited) Not sure how relevant, but has anyone else connected that there is NO story about seven chinese brothers. The original folklore version had 10 brothers, the subsequent "Americanized" childerns tale had five.... Loki is to smart to make that kind of mistake. Actually, Seven is correct...here's a link to a 1992 children's book of the correct title by Margaret Mahy: Seven Chinese Brothers Note, though, that you also are correct that there was a 1938 Five Chinese Brothers by Claire Huchet Bishop. Also, a Seven Chinese Sisters in 2003 by Kathy Tucker. Edited January 30, 2007 by agentleman Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickey500 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I'm going to recant my statement that "the game is over" - sorry for being so grouchy about the whole thing After going back and looking at the lokiv page - I noticed that it's not a question (and is referred to as a "challenge") In previous pages, she said "when the time is right, I'll ask you a question" - she hasn't asked us a question yet. what, is, my, name - has no question mark. I agree that MAYBE we're not done. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Hmm, Rocketspace, vanishing point, horizon, scape velocity (remember the pre-game?), starfield, Star Trek, and galactica.tanli.com ... My brain hurts !!!!! hehe Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentleman Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I'm going to recant my statement that "the game is over" - sorry for being so grouchy about the whole thingAfter going back and looking at the lokiv page - I noticed that it's not a question (and is referred to as a "challenge") In previous pages, she said "when the time is right, I'll ask you a question" - she hasn't asked us a question yet. what, is, my, name - has no question mark. I agree that MAYBE we're not done. Quick thought...the Game officially ends tonight, at 9pm PST/Midnight EST. So this is it. We've either solved it or are running down to the wire. Keep an eye on the lokiv page for changes or new hints, but if we don't see anything...well...than the best guess is that someone submitted the right answer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badwagon Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I'm going to recant my statement that "the game is over" - sorry for being so grouchy about the whole thingAfter going back and looking at the lokiv page - I noticed that it's not a question (and is referred to as a "challenge") In previous pages, she said "when the time is right, I'll ask you a question" - she hasn't asked us a question yet. what, is, my, name - has no question mark. I agree that MAYBE we're not done. did you have the link to the LOKIV page that you are talking about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickey500 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 did you have the link to the LOKIV page that you are talking about. www.vanishingpointgame.com/lokiv Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Holy cow ... what if instead of Hardee is actually Hardy ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Nemesis Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Not sure how relevant, but has anyone else connected that there is NO story about seven chinese brothers. The original folklore version had 10 brothers, the subsequent "Americanized" childerns tale had five.... Loki is to smart to make that kind of mistake. yes there is.... http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearc...0420570&z=y Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Veteran Posted January 30, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 30, 2007 I hope Microsoft plans to reimburse the employers of all the players of this game for their loss of productivity throughout the game's course! So damn addictive! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggletd Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 what is my name im math answey pi? thats kinda weird, if im on to something, y no r Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garykagan Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Holy cow ... what if instead of Hardee is actually Hardy ?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Nemesis you're killin me with the star trek references....lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I hope Microsoft plans to reimburse the employers of all the players of this game for their loss of productivity throughout the game's course!So damn addictive! hehe that's a good one !!! I've this thing bouncing in my mind, what a heck I'll get it out .. There are way too many things that are connected to "Space Travel" The grand prize, the vanishing point, what pi, euler's number and the golden ratio have in common?, they are all irrational numbers, there is a theory that says if you try to construct a set of irrational numbers the elements on the set become uncountable (you can still estimate the number) like the number of stars in the universe, or like the "grains of sand in the beach", star trek, galactica, time travel, the discoveries that enabled the advance of science and technology, the first human in space, etc, etc ... I'm going nuts !!!! hehe Damn I own my own company, I guess I'll have to fire myself because of this crazy game ... Cheers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 LOLOL. Im surprised Harry Pothead has not yet been discussed here as a relevant issue to Vanshing point...hmmm....Tom Soyer? anyone? lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 LOLOL. Im surprised Harry Pothead has not yet been discussed here as a relevant issue to Vanshing point...hmmm....Tom Soyer? anyone? lol ROFL, yeah just give me few more minutes and I'll start with Disney too :woot: I need a drink Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickShawn Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Pi is a never ending number...no vanishing point? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggletd Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 repost what is my name im a math answey pi? or ip address Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewlefflercomputer Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Not related to anything specifically in the puzzle right now, but I think it is interesting that we have AMD promoting their multi-core processors a lot like Company I. Think Multiple persons, a la LOKI. Not sure if this plays a part in the game, just thought it was interesting. . . Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Pi is a never ending number...no vanishing point? Hmm we can start a whole thread about number theory, pi is not a periodic number, as the Euler's number, the square root of 2, etc, it ends but we don't know where and there are a lot of brilliant scientists that keep adding more decimals to it, the key issue about pi, and any other irrational number is that it can't be expressed as a single fraction of two integers. My .02 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoung279 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Just a quick question concerning the Odessa Oblast Coat of Arms. If the answer was Odessa why would they use the Provinces coat of arms and not the city's coat of arms? It seems to me there is more to the Odessa Oblast part of this. Just a thought. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deffjeff Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Just a quick question concerning the Odessa Oblast Coat of Arms. If the answer was Odessa why would they use the Provinces coat of arms and not the city's coat of arms? It seems to me there is more to the Odessa Oblast part of this. Just a thought. Odessa is a codename for one of the AMD Athlon 64 fx chips Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/76/#findComment-588275375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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