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The early numbers are in and it is not good for TNA.

RAW - 3.7

Impact - 0.6

We will have more detailed ratings shortly.

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it was taped that's why...I expect the live one next week to do nearer 1.0 but still its funny to see them getting whooped repeatedly

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I thought this was a great tribute so to speak (even the stuff about HBK being saved etc was tasteful if you ask me aka without throwing it in your face):

Wrestlemania 26 closed with Shawn Michaels standing at the top of the ramp for the last time as a performer.

Shawn did not end his career with as many title reigns as some of the other great Superstars such as Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Triple H, the Undertaker, or Stone Cold Steve Austin. However Shawn?s legacy will not be based on his title reigns. It will be based on the hundreds of superior performances he gave while entertaining us for 25 years.

It is hard to dispute that the Heartbreak Kid is the greatest performer to have ever set food in a wrestling ring. The stats do not lie. Here is a list of Shawn?s Match of the Year Awards:

From Pro Wresting Illustrated (as chosen by readers):

1993: vs. Marty Jannetty on Monday Night Raw

1994: vs. Razor Ramon in a ladder match at Wrestlemania X

1995: vs. Diesel at Wrestlemania XI

1996: vs. Bret Hart in an Iron Man Match at Wrestlemania XII

2004: vs. Chris Beniot and Triple H at Wrestlemania XX

2005: vs. Kurt Angle at Wrestlemania 21

2006: vs. Vince McMahon in a No Holds Barred match at Wrestlemania 22

2007: vs. John Cena on Raw

2008: vs. Ric Flair at Wrestlemania XXIV

2009: vs. The Undertaker at Wrestlemania XXV

(and you can pencil him in for 2010 for his performance against the Undertaker at Wrestlemania 26)

From this list we can see that he had excellent matches with a few competitors that are not known for good performances. Diesel, Vince McMahon, and John Cena have never been considered great performers, however Shawn Michaels was able to carry them to such a level that they were able to share in this award with him.

Also, Shawn spent approximately 16 years total as a singles competitor. Of those 16 years Shawn won this award 10 times. Not only did he win this award often, but during most years he took 2nd place, 3rd place, or both.

One of his many nicknames is Mr. Wrestlemania and for good reason. As a singles competitor Shawn competed in 14 Wrestlemanias. Eight of those performances won him Match of the Year. In the years that his Wrestlemania performance was not honored with this award he still had undoubtedly the best match including his performances against Steve Austin at Wrestlemania XIV, vs. Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania XIX, and vs. John Cena at Wrestlemania 23. His match with the Undertaker from Wrestlemania 26 will most likely take this award as well.

(Matches not mentioned include Wrestlemania VIII vs. Tito Santana and Wrestlemania IX vs. Tatanka. Also, he ?lost his smile? shortly before Wrestlemania 13 and did not compete that year.)

In addition to his many match of the year honors, he is credited for revolutionizing both the Ladder Match and Iron Man Match. While he did not compete in the first of either type of match, he did set the standard. His Iron Man Match with Bret Hart still stands among most wrestling fans as the best match ever using that stipulation.

He also competed in the first Hell in a Cell and Elimination Chamber, again helping set the standard for both stipulations.

During the 90s he was a controversy magnet and participated in 2 of the most infamous moments in wrestling history. Shawn, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash and Triple H, collectively known as the Kliq, appeared at the end of a Madison Square Garden show in 1996 and broke kayfabe in what has become known as the ?Curtain Call.? Of course he was also a key figure in the ?Montreal Screw Job? in 1996.

In 1998 Shawn was injured in his Casket Match at the Royal Rumble. Against doctors orders he competed at Wrestlemania XIV, passing the title to Stone Cold Steve Austin and officially igniting the Attitude Era that he helped start.

After the injury Shawn, believing his career was over, took a 4 year hiatus from wrestling. After turning his life over to the Lord Jesus Christ he returned to wrestling in 2002. We did not know if he could perform at the level he did 4 years prior, but after a series of excellent matches against Triple H he left no doubt. The Heartbreak Kid was back and continued to leave his mark etched in annals of professional wrestling.

Truly Shawn had few peers inside the squared circle. Other great performers such as Ric Flair and Chris Jericho have credited him as being the best performer of all time. The fan voted Match of the Year honors speak volumes as to how he is revered by wrestling fans.

On a personal note, Shawn was not just an incredible performer. He was also an inspirational man. He set a good example as a Christian, never failing to kneel in prayer and give thanks to the Lord before every match. In his book Heartbreak and Triumph, the Shawn Michaels Story he recounted the day that he accepted Jesus as his Savior. Upon reading those words I was inspired to do the same. On June 8 2006 I knelt down and uttered a prayer very similar to the one Shawn recounts in his book. I was saved that day and have never looked back.

I would just like to say thank you to Shawn. Thank you for the memories. Thank you for the thousands of hours of incredible entertainment. Thank you for helping save me. I?ll miss you.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/detailed-look-at-some-interesting-hbk-stats-and-history-99409

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We've got some major news coming out of Tuesday night's WWE SmackDown tapings, set to air this Friday night.

Money in the Bank winner Jack Swagger cashed in his briefcase and defeated Chris Jericho and become the new World Heavyweight Champion.

At the beginning of the show, Chris Jericho came out and had a confrontation with Edge. Edge attacked Jericho to reveal that his ribs were taped up from their match at WrestleMania.

Jack Swagger's music hit and he attacked the battered champion. Swagger hit a powerbomb and got the pinfall, capturing his first World Heavyweight title. The crowd was said to be "stunned" after the title change.

:blink: :huh: :no:

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I'm all for WWE pushing young stars and all, but come ON. No one gives two craps about Swagger except internet marks like us lol the average fan at a show hates the guy more or less. And they let him beat Jericho? Who is probably the best in the world right now next to maybe AJ Styles and one or two others...

Sheamus sucked because he's just to green. Now Swagger at least CAN wrestle and he's got the in-ring skills to boot. But he's horrible on the mic (not because of his lisp btw) and that chest pounding crap he does makes him look like a moron. Hopefully WWE will actually push him correctly now since he's hardly done anything important at all since late last year.

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I'm all for WWE pushing young stars and all, but come ON. No one gives two craps about Swagger except internet marks like us lol the average fan at a show hates the guy more or less. And they let him beat Jericho? Who is probably the best in the world right now next to maybe AJ Styles and one or two others...

Sheamus sucked because he's just to green. Now Swagger at least CAN wrestle and he's got the in-ring skills to boot. But he's horrible on the mic (not because of his lisp btw) and that chest pounding crap he does makes him look like a moron. Hopefully WWE will actually push him correctly now since he's hardly done anything important at all since late last year.

they'll probably put him up against Edge

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Sheamus sucked because he's just to white. Now Swagger at least CAN wrestle and he's got the in-ring skills to boot. But he's horrible on the mic (not because of his lisp btw) and that chest pounding crap he does makes him look like a ape. Hopefully WWE will actually push him correctly now since he's hardly done anything important at all since late last year.

fixed up nicely :-)

does anyone else want to toss bananas at him during his entrance?

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People who watched Wrestlemania saw the vicious shot World Heavyweight Champion Chris Jericho took after beating Edge. On NXT, he claims he suffered a concussion after the match when Edge speared him through the barricade separating the announcer's table from the timekeeper's seat. However, that might not be the reason Smackdown is without the "best in the world" for an extended period.

Chris Jericho just posted the following on his personal Twitter account IAmJericho: "Just got selected for sequestered jury duty. Six weeks minimum. :-( Won't be able to work or tweet. See u in May WWE Universe..." This comes just days after Chris Jericho lost the World Heavyweight Championship to Jack Swagger on Smackdown. It hasn't been made official on WWE.com so this is a 1wrestling.com EXCLUSIVE. This may throw things on Smackdown into chaos. Keep it here on 1wrestling.com for more information as this story develops.

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People who watched Wrestlemania saw the vicious shot World Heavyweight Champion Chris Jericho took after beating Edge. On NXT, he claims he suffered a concussion after the match when Edge speared him through the barricade separating the announcer's table from the timekeeper's seat. However, that might not be the reason Smackdown is without the "best in the world" for an extended period.

Chris Jericho just posted the following on his personal Twitter account IAmJericho: "Just got selected for sequestered jury duty. Six weeks minimum. :-( Won't be able to work or tweet. See u in May WWE Universe..." This comes just days after Chris Jericho lost the World Heavyweight Championship to Jack Swagger on Smackdown. It hasn't been made official on WWE.com so this is a 1wrestling.com EXCLUSIVE. This may throw things on Smackdown into chaos. Keep it here on 1wrestling.com for more information as this story develops.

I can see Jack keeping the belt for weeks

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Partial Source: The Pro Wrestling Torch Newsletter

The general feeling among those backstage in WWE is that Shawn Michaels is sincere about his retirement. The WrestleMania match and RAW farewell were the real deal. Keep in mind though that he never did rule out another match during his promo on Monday. They also called it a 'farewell' speech and not a 'retirement' speech.

While no one is ruling out the possibility of Michaels working a match or two down the line, many feel he truly believes right now that he worked his final match on Sunday.

During his farewell speech on RAW, he acknowledged there being a temptation to return to the ring but that he was going to do everything in his power to make sure it doesn't happen. With that being said, many feel he will ultimately give in and return for at least one more match.

We'll see what happens but as of right now he's taking an extended period of time off for sure.

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