Mozilla Firefox 3.0 RC1

[ThePitt]

when this browser use the same resources than Opera, I might consider use it for more than 5 minutes

[Knife Party]

when this browser use the same resources than Opera, I might consider use it for more than 5 minutes

when Opera starts rendering pages properly, I might consider using it for more than 5 minutes :D

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

when this browser use the same resources than Opera, I might consider use it for more than 5 minutes

You will be pleased to know that Firefox 3 uses a lot less resources than previous versions of Firefox and should be on par with Opera, depending on the platform you run it on.

[ViperAFK]

Firefox 3 generally uses less or the same amount of memory as the latest 9.50 for me.

Edited May 18, 2008 by ViperAFK

[proximo]

Could someone do me a favour please? I just hate the new home icon they've been using as of beta 5 on vista. It looks all washed out and doesn't fit in with the reload and stop button as well as the previous one did. If anyone is good at mods for Firefox could they create me a theme using the older home button? I did try it but I can't get it right.

[EduardValencia]

Hmmm the interface is not as good thogh :/

Is there a skin i could use for this version?

[Robbie Khan Reviews]

Hmmm the interface is not as good thogh :/

Is there a skin i could use for this version?

Dude your one looks like ass :(

Here's how it looks with Aero enabled :D

This RC1 is running flawless for me, not a single issue at all.

[Calum Veteran]

Dude your one looks like ass :(

Here's how it looks with Aero enabled :D

This RC1 is running flawless for me, not a single issue at all.

Ahem, to be honest, I think both his and yours look like "ass"! :p

This is how I think Firefox 3.0 should have looked and I personally think this looks amazing:

I don't understand how anyone can bash the UI or the icons when all it takes is adding the Glasser extension, editing the userChrome.css slightly and removing uneeded icons (i.e. the 'Bookmarks' icon when you can use a keyboard shortcut or go into the bookmarks menu - because let's face it, with the AwesomeBar built into Firefox 3, you rarely have to access your bookmarks :p)

All you have to do to ge the menubar up is press 'Alt' and even that is transparent ;)

Seriously, after looking at my screenshot, how can anybody say Firefox 3's UI is horrible on Vista?

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Edited May 18, 2008 by cJr.

[Hani]

i guess by the time the final version is released, Firefox will be the best browser available.

[Robbie Khan Reviews]

Ahem, to be honest, I think both his and yours look like "ass"! :p

This is how I think Firefox 3.0 should have looked and I personally think this looks amazing (see attached image). I don't understand how anyone can bash the UI or the icons when all it takes is adding the Glasser extension, editing the userChrome.css slightly and removing uneeded icons (i.e. the 'Bookmarks' icon when you can use a keyboard shortcut or go into the bookmarks menu - because let's face it, with the AwesomeBar built into Firefox 3, you rarely have to access your bookmarks :p)

All you have to do to ge the menubar up is press 'Alt' and even that is transparent ;)

Seriously, after looking at my screenshot, how can anybody say Firefox 3's UI is horrible on Vista?

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I think yours looks more ass though :)

I say this because yours has no bookmark toolbar I can see that is easily reachable without having to clickthrough to the bookmark area! also winamp controls? My keyboard controls winamp remotely so +1 point to me there :p

I guess I just like to have everything at arms reach and be in control, I like that with everything from car to camera to UI on my PC though heh.

[Shasoosh]

almost none of my plugins are compatible. :(

[Calum Veteran]

I think yours looks more ass though :)

I say this because yours has no bookmark toolbar I can see that is easily reachable without having to clickthrough to the bookmark area! also winamp controls? My keyboard controls winamp remotely so +1 point to me there :p

I guess I just like to have everything at arms reach and be in control, I like that with everything from car to camera to UI on my PC though heh.

Ok, I agree on the one point to you for the controls on your keyboard ;) lol

But, why would you need a 'Bookmarks' toolbar clogging up a Firefox 3 UI and making it ugly? When you can just type the first letter of the bookmark you want in the location bar and it will come up :)

That's the best thing about the AwesomeBar which shows your bookmarks as you type, because it means I no longer need a 'Bookmarks' toolbar.

Does that not make sense? :/

[Robbie Khan Reviews]

You make a valid point about awesomebar and I installed the hide main menu extension to hide the top bar on my screen so when I press ALT it shows.

I Marmite it at the moment.

ON one hand it's cleaner to look at hidden and gets me using the Awesomebar more but on the other hand usually I like to see my bookmarks listed as I bookmark pages by catagory and part them out using separators (see fig1)

fig1:

I'll probably get used to it as you can just hit ALT and display bookmarks normally if you need to whilst all other times it's neatly hidden away and you just use awesomebar.

So, with The Hide Main Menu extension installed my Firefox now looks like this:

Edited May 18, 2008 by mrk

[Calum Veteran]

Ahhh, I do see what you mean mrk. I like the last screenshot you posted in your last post (above this post) the most, but it is your computer and your browser, after all :p

Do you have an add-on for your Windows Vista to make it more glassy, by the way? Because yours looks more glassy than mine and I like how glassy yours looks.

Edited May 18, 2008 by cJr.

[Robbie Khan Reviews]

:p

I'll just use both!

[Calum Veteran]

Lol. I don't blame you.

Anyway, I've edited my last post, hoping you'd catch it.

I just wanted to know if you have an add-on to Windows Vista to make it more glassy or anything? Because it looks much more glassier than mine and much better than mine! :p lol.

[Robbie Khan Reviews]

Ah yes! that is indeed done by a glassier update :p

You need to patch the UXTheme files suing Neowin's patcher and then use a visual style called VistaGlass (attached here). You can then vary the pacity in the Colours and Appearances section in Vista after applying the VS :)

[Panarchy]

Uploading FF5b5 now... will provide windows version later in the day

[x-byte]

The interface is still not fast enough to replace Opera for me. But overall it seems better than Firefox 2.

They should add simple stuff like mouse gestures by default. You shouldn't have to install such a simple thing yourself.

[Kushan]

The interface is still not fast enough to replace Opera for me. But overall it seems better than Firefox 2.

They should add simple stuff like mouse gestures by default. You shouldn't have to install such a simple thing yourself.

Mouse gestures aren't really "simple" things. While I agree for some they may be super useful, but for others (such as myself) they're just going to get in the way.

[Shasoosh]

Mouse gestures aren't really "simple" things. While I agree for some they may be super useful, but for others (such as myself) they're just going to get in the way.

in the way of what? do you right click and drag up+left with no reason ? I don't see how that "hidden" feature can be harmful.

[x-byte]

Mouse gestures aren't really "simple" things. While I agree for some they may be super useful, but for others (such as myself) they're just going to get in the way.

Your kidding right? It's better to have the option to disable it rather than have to find it and install it.

I've been using mouse gestures since 2001, they have never interfered with my browsing ever.

edit: Do you seriosly have to install an add on to enable Aero Glass support?

Edited May 18, 2008 by x-byte

[Kushan]

What's to say I accidentally press the right mouse button as I'm moving to click a link? What happens then if I didn't know about the mouse gestures thing? To me, firefox would just seem to randomly go back a page or whatever, which can be very frustrating. It's better to simply have it disabled by default (or better yet, not installed at all) so if you want it, you can install it yourself.

It's a case of the developers having to think very carefully about what they DO add to firefox. Every little addition makes the whole thing bigger, slower, etc.

That's why most of the "default" features are extremely useful things (such as tabs) that the vast majority of people will probably use. While you two might love mouse gestures, can you be certain that MOST other firefox users (remember, this includes the likes of people's grannies and other non-techy, non web-savvy users) will get the most out of without it potentially getting in the way?

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edit: Do you seriosly have to install an add on to enable Aero Glass support?

Kind of. The borders have glass enabled by default, but the menu bars do not.

[x-byte]

If it makes a browser bigger and slower, why is Opera still smaller and faster in most cases? That argument doesn't really hold up.

I can understand that the most non tech savy people might not need it. The way Opera handles it works great. It ask you if you want it enable if you do a mouse gesture. I think Firefox should do this as well. Mabye people actually can learn how to use new features also. It only helps in giving a better browsing experience.

Mabye I'll give FF a try again when FF4 is here.

[Calum Veteran]

edit: Do you seriosly have to install an add on to enable Aero Glass support?

Yes, because in order to implement Aero glass properly, in Firefox, ironing out all of the bugs, etc, it would have pushed Firefox 3's release date back quite a bit (as they have to change code within their rendering engine, or something like that). Therefore they are going to implement Aero glass in Firefox 4.

I see nothing wrong with that, because I'd rather have Firefox 3 released ASAP. I'm even happier now I know of an extension to get Aero glass.

You're insulting Firefox 3 for not having Aero glass, yet your rubbishy Opera doesn't have it by default does it? No!