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This is ridiculous. Are people becoming more stupid or what?

People watch one single EARLY EARLY demonstration of a feature of windows 7 and they assume that that?s EXACTLY how it will look.

"Thats lame it looks just like vista" -- DUH it looks like vista it?s a BETA you idiot!

whatever happened to the good old days where people knew what the hell was going on and what to expect.

All we have today is a bunch of kids with no common sense and a lack of respect.

It will have obsolete features like drive letters and registry. It will SUCK.

Sigh.

Do I dare start the "What's wrong with the registry/What would you replace it with?" discussion that pops up in these threads everytime someone idiotically suggests its removal?

Stupidest post ever. You might want to educate yourself before ever posting again.

You might want to withdraw your lame comments.

Quit telling people what to do within the rules of Neowin.

If you have nothing nice to say then say nothing.

Capiche!

Stupidest post ever. You might want to educate yourself before ever posting again.

Are you man enough to educate me? I like to study L-O-N-G and HARD.

I'm so fed up with all registry errors and it's so abused piece of mess that I'd like to puke everytime something writes into it. Anything else is better.

*Goes Ccleaning and defragmenting drive abcdefg:\* ;)

Anything else is better.

If by better you mean slower, orders of magnitude more difficult to centrally manage, less flexible with security, and potentially prone to thread locking issues, then sure, anything else is 'better' than the registry.

The registry isn't perfect, and has its own issues, but it works fine for what it's intended, and removing it is one of the most idiotic things anyone could possibly suggest.

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Are you man enough to educate me? I like to study L-O-N-G and HARD.

I'm so fed up with all registry errors and it's so abused piece of mess that I'd like to puke everytime something writes into it. Anything else is better.

*Goes Ccleaning and defragmenting drive abcdefg:\* ;)

If you are fed up then go to "anything else"? Why you still with Windows. You don't care for Windows and it does not give a care what you think.

Windows 7 will not be the revolutionary OS, but it will be a great OS whether you like it or not.

too early to tell? Vista is barely a year old, and already Windows 7 videos and screens are popping up, with early predictions???

Wait until 6-9 months till Windows 7 final release date, then make accurate predictions. No one is forcing you to buy it

Anything else is better.

Then go write your own operating system that doesn't require the need for a registry or drive letters. Like you said, ANYTHING else is better, right? Go create your own alternative, then get back to us.

If by better you mean slower, orders of magnitude more difficult to centrally manage, less flexible with security, and potentially prone to thread locking issues, then sure, anything else is 'better' than the registry.

*Wonders why nobody else uses registry*

Do you want to benchmark Vista against some registry-free OS? Somehow they seem to be a lot faster. I've experienced enough "registry goes tango uniform and Windos won't boot" -issues. Good luck fixing them with recovery console.

Registry - accident waiting to happen.

EDIT: It would be nice to continue but apparently I have to reboot Windos. *sigh* Boot Boot. Relic.

*Wonders why nobody else uses registry*

Do you want to benchmark Vista against some registry-free OS? Somehow they seem to be a lot faster. I've experienced enough "registry goes tango uniform and Windos won't boot" -issues. Good luck fixing them with recovery console.

Registry - accident waiting to happen.

EDIT: It would be nice to continue but apparently I have to reboot Windos. *sigh* Boot Boot. Relic.

Reboot? You can't be running Vista, then. Unless you've got an important update there, you rarely need to reboot.

In any case, it's very easy to see why the registry is faster. What would you suggest as an alternative? An XML file? Go ahead and benchmark parsing an XML file versus the registry. It's MUCH slower.

INI file? Let's not even go there. That just opens up a whole new can of worms.

Some kind of special custom serialized format? Here you might be on par with the registry for speed, but now you've lost user editting, and again: central managment and flexible security settings are right out.

This exact issue has been dicussed over and over again in practically every Windows 7 thread where someone has suggested removal of the registry. We haven't even got to the point in this discussion where I'm supposed to bring up COM and how it needs the registry. I suggest reading them.

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In any case, it's very easy to see why the registry is faster. What would you suggest as an alternative? An XML file? Go ahead and benchmark parsing an XML file versus the registry. It's MUCH slower.

Missing registry doesn't seem to slow down Ubuntu or OpenSolaris. Quite the opposite. Do you mean that Windows would be even slower if they dumped the registry? :p

This exact issue has been dicussed over and over again in practically every Windows 7 thread where someone has suggested removal of the registry. We haven't even got to the point in this discussion where I'm supposed to bring up COM and how it needs the registry. I suggest reading them.

Really great idea to start building on top of rotten foundation.

Windows will continue to suck until M$ throws away their old junk and takes a fresh start. I hope their competition just gets stronger so that day will come soon.

Removing the registry would be an incredibly pointless and stupid thing for ms to do.

QFT

People are just talking out of their asses without thinking what is the registry and the kinds of operations it holds within Vista.

Missing registry doesn't seem to slow down Ubuntu or OpenSolaris. Quite the opposite. Do you mean that Windows would be even slower if they dumped the registry? :p

1) Ubuntu or OpenSolaris would likely be much faster if they relied on a heavily optimized database instead of a bunch of random files strewn about the system. Especially if they use slow-to-parse XML files.

2) Ubuntu and OpenSolaris aren't componentized at runtime the way Windows is. They don't rely on COM as most Windows applications do.

I won't pretend to be an expert on how Linux/Unix work. However, I do consider myself somewhat of an expert on Windows :) So what I can attest to is the fact that yes, Windows would be much slower if it relied on XML files to fulfill the purpose of the registry. More than that, XML files have many limitations that would need to be overcome for them to even work at all.

If you have a specific suggestion / proposal, and not "Do what xxxx other OS (with completely different architecture) does," I'll be happy to comment on that as well.

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