The Official Neowin NHL Playoff Thread

[BroChaos Veteran]

man, just one word to describe tonight:

WOW

[Cara Veteran]

Remember everyone, I'm constantly updating the First Post not only with Stats but also my own personal editorial on the playoff picture or specific games...

[gigapixels Veteran]

oh cool thanks i didn't even notice that. and what are you a journalist? nice writing skills!

[Steven]

oh cool thanks i didn't even notice that. and what are you a journalist? nice writing skills!

Nah, i think cara is just trying to keep her sanity, we all know she's preparing for a Detroit Loss in the First Round...

/me runs quickly.

:rofl:

[gigapixels Veteran]

LOL jeez do you have a neowin death wish? if you keep it up i think you're gonna get banned lol

[cjbeckwith]

Is that where that "Where Unprofessional Journalism looks better" thing comes in?

:laugh:

[Cara Veteran]

oh cool thanks i didn't even notice that. and what are you a journalist? nice writing skills!

Not professionally. ;)

I use to write a column for a NHL site but gave it up a while back when work got heavy. I have decided to revise my old habits here and post some stuff for the forum population. :)

As for xStainDxx... The Wings have a better chance of advancing than the Isles so... ;) Sticks and Stones by break my bones but a puck in the face can kill you. ;)

[cjbeckwith]

Nah, i think cara is just trying to keep her sanity, we all know she's preparing for a Detroit Loss in the First Round...

/me runs quickly.

:rofl:

She may be preparing and I am praying!

:innocent:

[Cara Veteran]

I might also point out to all of you Detroit bashers...

http://www.detroitredwings.com/poll/poll_view.asp

;) The poll from the Official Detroit Red Wings site...

How will the Red Wings vs. Ducks series play out?

1359 - Wings in 4

3794 - Wings in 5

1086 - Wings in 6

85 - Wings in 7

121 - Ducks in 4

73 - Ducks in 5

98 - Ducks in 6

77 - Ducks in 7

My vote is in bold. ;)

[axis]

Once again you people will see that the Anaheim vs Detroit series will be the best of all the current or future series this year. Everytime Anaheim has made the playoffs Detroit beat them, swept them actually, and Anaheim did exactly what they did tonight to them in years past. Tonights game was about 5 min longer then the other game that went to 3 overtimes in '97. Maybe people will learn to respect west coast hockey, Orange County sure punched alot of people in the mouth tonight.

[-Clark-]

irate over the obviously bad call which unfairly disallowed a goal by Luc Robitaille which would have won the game early in the overtime session.

luc had a nice shot, just didn't go in the net, very close, but they just didn't get in in the net. hitting the post doesn't count. sorry :rofl:

avs lost...doesnt really matter though, the wings lost and thats all that matters for right now :)

[gigapixels Veteran]

i'm all for west coast hockey, but the ducks just plain suck...

[Mystical112]

GO LEAFS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Cara Veteran]

It does count when you hit the post...the inside of the post is technically (by NHL Rules) a goal, it's the outside which doesn't count.

Thus, the goal by Lucky Luc should have stood as two of ESPN's replays clearly show the puck going off TWO of the posts, both on the inside.

But, as with most games, the refs tend to rule against Detroit... For example, they were called for 'Too many men on the ice' in 12 straight games, a new league record from my research.

[Steven]

Not professionally. ;)

I use to write a column for a NHL site but gave it up a while back when work got heavy.  I have decided to revise my old habits here and post some stuff for the forum population. :)

As for xStainDxx...  The Wings have a better chance of advancing than the Isles so... ;)  Sticks and Stones by break my bones but a puck in the face can kill you. ;)

:wub: :heart: awww... i :wub: you too cara... :wacko:

[BroChaos Veteran]

It does count when you hit the post...the inside of the post is technically (by NHL Rules) a goal, it's the outside which doesn't count.

Thus, the goal by Lucky Luc should have stood as two of ESPN's replays clearly show the puck going off TWO of the posts, both on the inside.

But, as with most games, the refs tend to rule against Detroit...  For example, they were called for 'Too many men on the ice' in 12 straight games, a new league record from my research.

it's not a goal until the entire puck has crossed the red line. it is not possible for a puck to hit the post, rebound out, and be a goal.

Rule 57:

a) A goal shall be scored when the puck shall have been put between the goal posts by the stick of a player of the attacking side, from in front and below the crossbar, and entirely across a red line the width of the diameter of the goal posts drawn on the ice from one goal post to the other with the goal frame in its proper position.

[CatnipOligarchy]

Anyone watch that great game with the Ducks and the Wings?

Triple overtime and the Wings dominated but the Ducks came out on top... I want the Wings to win it all, but that goalie on Anaheim is a wall

that was a great game...i was happy to see a favored team lose...nothing against the red wings but i have to pull against them since they are defending champs...

[Cara Veteran]

Check your NHL Rule Book there BroChaos...

Should a puck enter the net in such a fashion as it were to strike one or more parts of the goal-post while the majority (50%+) of the puck is across the goal line, a goal will be awarded.

Source : Official National Hockey League Referee's Manual (1999-2000 Season)

<Edit : Off that rule doesn't mention a defending player's ability to score against their own net. Though with all the rules I suppose many things are covered under many rules. >

[BroChaos Veteran]

Check your NHL Rule Book there BroChaos...

Source : Official National Hockey League Referee's Manual (1999-2000 Season)

which rule is that?

i've played hockey my whole life and have never heard of such a rule, and i do not see it in the current rule book.

how on earth can a ref ever declare a puck "50%" in? what if it was only "49%"? that just doesn't seem to be a logical statement....

[Cara Veteran]

Don't ask me, it's just quoted under the following

Section 21 ( Guidelines for Allowing Goals )

In the manual I have. Got it (signed by Bill McCreary) at an NHL Charity Auction.

I suppose it could be an on-ice call but given it's in there I always took that as an officially sanctioned rule. I'm going to write Panger at ESPN and ask him about it and see what he responds. I'll let the ESPN Archive Monkeys do the work. ;)

[BroChaos Veteran]

how can they have a rule that directly contradicts the very first rule in the goals section?

[Cara Veteran]

Have you ever read the rules and then guidelines for calling penalties? The entire thing is a contradiction. A rule says something can be called one way yet the officials are clearly told it requires a different set of criteria.

Either way I'll post the responce I get from Panger if/when I get it. :) Might end up trying Barry or John since I see their eMails right on the ESPN site.

[BroChaos Veteran]

hmmm, i've never read the "guidelines". i don't think the guidelines mean anything though. the rule book is the rule book. there's no way they would ever count a goal where the puck only crosses the line half way...it's just not possible.

the officials made the right call tonight.

*edit* i'd be interested in hearing what they say

[Cara Veteran]

You and me both. :)

It's the Official Ref Manual so I don't know if they are 'law' or 'suggestion' but there is some intresting things in there. When to step into a fight, what you can throw a coach out for saying... It's a good read if you can ever get a copy. ($500 USD At Auction for me)

[-Clark-]

there's no way any of the replay angles could have shown it going over the line at all since it the crossbar then hit the post, if it was in, the puck would have flew down into the net and not out. :p