[Feedback needed] Atlas, the next version of Neowin

[Subject Delta]

People thought it would take a long time to get IE8, iirc. And considering the long wait for IE7, IE8 came quite soon afterwards.

That for me though is because IE7 was really a stopgap to bring support for things like tabs into the browser to halt their marketshare slide a bit, and IMO it worked. IE8 is the real revolution in terms to switching to a more W3C compatible engine.

For the complainers, time to complain to MS and the makers of Opera and get them to get with the times and implement a update that does support the latest web standards.

Or maybe I should just complain to the W3C and get them to finalise the standard? Microsoft certainly aren't going to support unfinished standards in IE, and Opera are obviously working towards it

[Calum Veteran]

Way to go on the offensive there Calum (Y)

I am merely stating my disappointment that things are being implemented before they are really ready

I am sorry if you became offended by me calling your statements "absurd"; I admit using that term may have been slightly harsh on my part, however, I was just extremely shocked by the assumptions you made when you said "a large portion of Neowin's browser users are having different pages fed to them," despite the code being the same. I was also shocked that you appeared to class 'rounded corners' as some sort of major feature, when it is obvious that users still have exactly the same functionality whether their browser can display rounded corners or not.

Anyway, I can see me and you are not going to agree on this issue so it makes sense not to discuss it further.

[Subject Delta]

I was given that impression by the way that the OP put the word Crap next to the word Opera (way to be objective by the way), that lead me to believe it was being treated differently. Evidently it isn't so I was wrong and I apologise on that part, but I don't see the need for staff members to make inflammatory statements, this forum is hostile enough to Opera users as it is with all the anti-opera trolls present, staff really should be setting a better example than that

[Elliott]

I was given that impression by the way that the OP put the word Crap next to the word Opera (way to be objective by the way), that lead me to believe it was being treated differently. Evidently it isn't so I was wrong and I apologise on that part, but I don't see the need for staff members to make inflammatory statements, this forum is hostile enough to Opera users as it is with all the anti-opera trolls present, staff really should be setting a better example than that

We web developers can't hold back for very long. :p You have to be in the field to realize just how damn frustrating it is.

[Guest xiphi]

What I find weird about the complaints of the round corners is that YouTube does the very same thing, yet no one seems to complain about that. You're not missing anything whether the browser supports it or not.

[MikeChipshop Member]

I hadn't even noticed this until you just pointed it out lol.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

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Or maybe I should just complain to the W3C and get them to finalise the standard?

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You could, but they'd ignore you (standards are never finalised, they can be replaced by a newer version though)

[Denis W. Veteran]

What I find weird about the complaints of the round corners is that YouTube does the very same thing, yet no one seems to complain about that. You're not missing anything whether the browser supports it or not.

I hadn't even noticed this until you just pointed it out lol.

Ugh, you're right! Never noticed that until now.

It's more pronounced on Neowin's front page though, with rounded corners everywhere. On Youtube it's just the buttons as far as I could see.

[Calum Veteran]

It's more pronounced on Neowin's front page though, with rounded corners everywhere. On Youtube it's just the buttons as far as I could see.

Nah, just about everything is rounded on YouTube - the searchbox, the buttons, the containers titled "Subscriptions", " Recommended for You" etc; thus I deduce that YouTube contains a similar amount of rounded corners as Neowin Atlas and these rounded corners are produced in the same way - using the CSS 'border-radius' property not supported in Opera or Internet Explorer :)

[manmohanjit1]

Why don't you guys have a demo for it? Its much better than just looking at images. Let the users of Neowin get some cool experience with this theme before it goes public.

[DaveLegg Developer]

Why don't you guys have a demo for it? Its much better than just looking at images. Let the users of Neowin get some cool experience with this theme before it goes public.

There's a lot more work to go into it before it is ready to show the public.

[Ji@nBing]

Looks really nice. I really don't like that you can't adjust the width of the main page though. Wastes a lot of space on widescreen monitors.

[Vice]

The design you have currently live on the site is really nice but Atlas is also very nice. I don't know which I prefer, new or old they are definitely both very nice.

[Iian K]

When I saw this on Facebook the other day, I thought it was kick ass.

Looks good guys, can't wait to see this. :)

[manmohanjit1]

There's a lot more work to go into it before it is ready to show the public.

Then roughly how long would it take for it to be ready? I'm really excited to see Neowin in that theme, it would be awesome!

[Steeley]

I love it! Good work!

My only suggestion would be to move the first banner ad above the Neowin logo banner. But I understand about ad placement for click success rate, so I won't bitch.

[ViperAFK]

Looks really nice. I really don't like that you can't adjust the width of the main page though. Wastes a lot of space on widescreen monitors.

Yes, please make the site more wide screen friendly!

[SMELTN]

Yes, please make the site more wide screen friendly!

I do agree (Y)

[Ricardo Gil]

Neowin.net - Where rounded corners look better.

[Richard Hammond]

....or not if you dont use the right browser.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Why don't the Neowin devs simply use the solution provided by Google for the rounded corner problem? :p

[DaveLegg Developer]

Why don't the Neowin devs simply use the solution provided by Google for the rounded corner problem? :p

We are doing ;) But that doesn't help opera users, or those that don't have it installed.

[Ricardo Gil]

We are doing ;) But that doesn't help opera users, or those that don't have it installed.

It doesn't harm them either. I have to say I'm still baffled by the number of pages discussing... :huh: corners?!

[+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹]

It doesn't harm them either. I have to say I'm still baffled by the number of pages discussing... :huh: corners?!

Rounded corners are serious business.

[ViperAFK]

If people want rounded corners so bad they should use a browser that supports it or just stop whining. It's hardly anything that warrants pages of bitching.