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People thought it would take a long time to get IE8, iirc. And considering the long wait for IE7, IE8 came quite soon afterwards.

That for me though is because IE7 was really a stopgap to bring support for things like tabs into the browser to halt their marketshare slide a bit, and IMO it worked. IE8 is the real revolution in terms to switching to a more W3C compatible engine.

For the complainers, time to complain to MS and the makers of Opera and get them to get with the times and implement a update that does support the latest web standards.

Or maybe I should just complain to the W3C and get them to finalise the standard? Microsoft certainly aren't going to support unfinished standards in IE, and Opera are obviously working towards it

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Way to go on the offensive there Calum (Y)

I am merely stating my disappointment that things are being implemented before they are really ready

I am sorry if you became offended by me calling your statements "absurd"; I admit using that term may have been slightly harsh on my part, however, I was just extremely shocked by the assumptions you made when you said "a large portion of Neowin's browser users are having different pages fed to them," despite the code being the same. I was also shocked that you appeared to class 'rounded corners' as some sort of major feature, when it is obvious that users still have exactly the same functionality whether their browser can display rounded corners or not.

Anyway, I can see me and you are not going to agree on this issue so it makes sense not to discuss it further.

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I was given that impression by the way that the OP put the word Crap next to the word Opera (way to be objective by the way), that lead me to believe it was being treated differently. Evidently it isn't so I was wrong and I apologise on that part, but I don't see the need for staff members to make inflammatory statements, this forum is hostile enough to Opera users as it is with all the anti-opera trolls present, staff really should be setting a better example than that

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I was given that impression by the way that the OP put the word Crap next to the word Opera (way to be objective by the way), that lead me to believe it was being treated differently. Evidently it isn't so I was wrong and I apologise on that part, but I don't see the need for staff members to make inflammatory statements, this forum is hostile enough to Opera users as it is with all the anti-opera trolls present, staff really should be setting a better example than that

We web developers can't hold back for very long. :p You have to be in the field to realize just how damn frustrating it is.

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What I find weird about the complaints of the round corners is that YouTube does the very same thing, yet no one seems to complain about that. You're not missing anything whether the browser supports it or not.
I hadn't even noticed this until you just pointed it out lol.

Ugh, you're right! Never noticed that until now.

It's more pronounced on Neowin's front page though, with rounded corners everywhere. On Youtube it's just the buttons as far as I could see.

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It's more pronounced on Neowin's front page though, with rounded corners everywhere. On Youtube it's just the buttons as far as I could see.

Nah, just about everything is rounded on YouTube - the searchbox, the buttons, the containers titled "Subscriptions", " Recommended for You" etc; thus I deduce that YouTube contains a similar amount of rounded corners as Neowin Atlas and these rounded corners are produced in the same way - using the CSS 'border-radius' property not supported in Opera or Internet Explorer :)

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Why don't you guys have a demo for it? Its much better than just looking at images. Let the users of Neowin get some cool experience with this theme before it goes public.

There's a lot more work to go into it before it is ready to show the public.

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We are doing ;) But that doesn't help opera users, or those that don't have it installed.

It doesn't harm them either. I have to say I'm still baffled by the number of pages discussing... :huh: corners?!

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