Neowin forums are back

[kainashi]

what exactly went wrong with the upgrade causing the high load, etc. ? :huh:

glad you guys got everything working smoothly again though, even if it's the old forums. ;)

[Bioran]

Shame IPB 3 didn't work out. :( Hopefully we will still get it in the near future?

Regardless, you guys did fantastic work, staying up and working on it endlessly like that. Hopefully it will work the second time? :)

[carmatic]

i had to delete my cache otherwise i get logged out everytime i view a thread in the forums , or click on a news item on the front page...

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I can't see how it's not possible to move to IPB3?

This isn't meant as an offensive remark to the devs but how could it just not be possible?

Maybe it just needs more time, but good try guys, I really liked the way things were looking :( (Y)

[MrChainsaw]

TBH I'd prefer finity+ipb3.

[Buio]

I can't see how it's not possible to move to IPB3?

This isn't meant as an offensive remark to the devs but how could it just not be possible?

Maybe it just needs more time, but good try guys, I really liked the way things were looking :( (Y)

Well something caused a huge load on the server after the switch. And it wasn't possible to find and solve the problems in reasonable time. So now they are probably hard working to find it and try to solve it with help from the debugging and server logs during the last few days.

Maybe there need to be a fix done with IPB, who knows.

[WelshBluebird]

how come this same issue didn't happen when it was tested then? Is it simply due to the amount of users online at any one time on the main site, or would the high load issue still be there with few online users?

[DomZ]

how come this same issue didn't happen when it was tested then? Is it simply due to the amount of users online at any one time on the main site, or would the high load issue still be there with few online users?

I think it was a combination of the 9 million posts and the amount of users neowin get. The test server didn't have the 9 million posts, but they apparently ran some load tests which went fine.

Either way though, even when the board was offline there was still a massive load on the server, and they haven't really found out why yet.

[SimplySchizo]

Could we have started a pitch in to make up for the downtime revenue loss in hopes to have our new forums up?

I think if this was asked of us, many would be willing to help.

[deletedxyz]

I actually prefer the width of the current forums than IPB3. It looked like Atlas looked two blocky or heavy since posts looked like they took up too much space on my screen (1920x1200).

[ahmz]

This Finity skin is a lot easier on the eyes, with the contrast between the blues, and the topic titles are also A LOT easier to see and read. I was really annoyed with the Atlas theme.

[RoomKid]

This Finity skin is a lot easier on the eyes, with the contrast between the blues, and the topic titles are also A LOT easier to see and read. I was really annoyed with the Atlas theme.

I actually liked it, especially the Black skin :p

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

I actually prefer the width of the current forums than IPB3. It looked like Atlas looked two blocky or heavy since posts looked like they took up too much space on my screen (1920x1200).

I am not a fan of the wide screen experience myself. I found myself resizing my browser window to make it smaller. It looks so much better not stretched

[Draken]

hum well, so the song remains the same

[Growled Member]

I am not a fan of the wide screen experience myself. I found myself resizing my browser window to make it smaller. It looks so much better not stretched

I like it better stretched. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[BigBoobLover]

Still having some random problems with the forums though. Avatar and personal pictures keep disappearing, and the forums seem to be running slower than normal. I even got an IPS database error message earlier. Possibly some glitches while restoring the backup??

[Calum Veteran]

I actually prefer the width of the current forums than IPB3. It looked like Atlas looked two blocky or heavy since posts looked like they took up too much space on my screen (1920x1200).

I am not a fan of the wide screen experience myself. I found myself resizing my browser window to make it smaller. It looks so much better not stretched

I feel the same. I was thinking of creating (or getting hold of) a Stylish script which would ensure the width of the forums is the same as the width of the main site :D I value consistency a lot and the wider width just doesn't look nice, in my opinion :)

[njn007]

I feel the same. I was thinking of creating (or getting hold of) a Stylish script which would ensure the width of the forums is the same as the width of the main site :D I value consistency a lot and the wider width just doesn't look nice, in my opinion :)

Not a bad idea.

I myself like the wide version since I'm on a 21.5" Mac that can use such sizes on a 1920 x 1080 resolution.

[Timan Veteran]

Just change the width of #container, site shouldn't need any other tweaking to be fluid (unless you use the header images etc).

[PNWDweller]

The Neowin Staff/Devs/Supervisors etc deserve a good vacation, but I just gave my last one out the other day so someone else will have to pitch in. :) With all that went on, I am sure that Invision is probably as stressed as the people here who are involved with the transition behind the scenes.

Sure, they could dump IPB altogether and go with a more robust platform whatever that may be, or go with Phpbb, SMF, MyBB, etc...but will they get the same control over the ability to customize it to meet the community's requirements? That, I am sure remains to be seen and is probably going to be talked about in one of the meetings. One thing which is certain is that Invision Power Board is now very enlightened to a potential weakness of their programming in the 3.x software. After all, Neowin is a paying customer for the license fees and paying a company for software is motivation for them to fix bugs to prevent a loss of their revenue in annual renewal fees.

It is way too easy for those who are on the outside such as myself or the hundreds of thousands of regulars here to forget that Neowin isn't just on some guy's server sitting in their garage or bedroom. It is a project of "love" for those involved behind the scenes. I for one am glad that Neowin didn't sell out to a corporate monster to be controlled by them where the flow of money is seemingly endless, and probably where the Atlas upgrade would have been scrapped at the table.

I appreciate the efforts and having spearheaded some massive upgrades before like this myself (Software not, web server side) in my professional life, I can surely appreciate the pains involved. Please staff/team, go take a break, GET SOME SLEEP, take a mini vacation away from here for a little bit. One of you will probably have one of those "Ah-ha!" moments halfway through it because your mind is cleared. :)

[Pajter]

I can't see how it's not possible to move to IPB3?

This isn't meant as an offensive remark to the devs but how could it just not be possible?

Maybe it just needs more time, but good try guys, I really liked the way things were looking :( (Y)

The way I understand it, is that it's a server side problem. They are properly configured now, but somehow conflict with IPB3. It's some code that causes errors between the server and the software.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

The way I understand it, is that it's a server side problem. They are properly configured now, but somehow conflict with IPB3. It's some code that causes errors between the server and the software.

Over time should that be fixable because I'd really liked the new forums? :(

I don't mind if I need to wait months rather than weeks, I just don't want to hear the staff saying no you're stuck with what you've got now forever :p

[Pajter]

Everything is fixable in some way or another. I doubt they'll just throw away a few months of work because of a nasty bug. I assume that they're still working with Invision to restart the upgrade. We'll just have to be patient I guess. :)

At least we can still use the forums, though not in the fancy new skin. But at the end of the day, it's about the spam and the fun of the forums. How they look is secondary. :p

[Chasethebase Veteran]

I can imagine how all of you feel, having to revert back to the old Finity theme and IPB 2.x. Hopefully you can find out what the issue is and resolve it ASAP. :)

[Growled Member]

Could the problem have been Atlas?