F1 World Championship 2011 Thread

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  1. 1. Which team will win the Constructor's Championship?

    • Red Bull Renault
      57
    • McLaren Mercedes
      30
    • Ferrari
      14
    • Mercedes GP
      4
    • Lotus Renault GP
      0
    • Williams Cosworth
      1
    • Force India Mercedes
      0
    • Sauber Ferrari
      1
    • Scuderia Toro Rosso Ferrari
      0
    • Team Lotus Renault
      1
    • Hispania Racing Team Cosworth
      1
    • Marussia Virgin Racing Cosworth
      1

  2. 2. Which driver will win the World Driver's Championship?

    • Sebastian Vettel
      52
    • Mark Webber
      2
    • Lewis Hamilton
      22
    • Jenson Button
      7
    • Fernando Alonso
      14
    • Felipe Massa
      2
    • Michael Schumacher
      6
    • Nico Rosberg
      0
    • Nick Heidfeld
      1
    • Vitali Petrov
      0
    • Rubens Barichello
      0
    • Pastor Madonaldo
      0
    • Adrian Sutil
      0
    • Paul di Resta
      0
    • Kamui Kobayashi
      1
    • Sergio Perez
      1
    • Sebastian Buemi
      1
    • Jaime Algersuari
      1
    • Other (specify below)
      0

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Grand Master

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Anyone surprised by Massa's Crash?

I'm sure I've seen suspension taking hits like that on other tracks...manufacturing defect maybe?

Driver error if you ask me. A F1 suspension only withstands so much; going over that curb was too much.

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simonlang

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Driver error if you ask me. A F1 suspension only withstands so much; going over that curb was too much.

well wurz (and he is as much as a massa hater as many on this forum) thinks that by tomorrow following will happen.

- the area arround the kerb will get asphalt surface

- ferrari will use other/stronger (and heavier) materials for their suspension.

i think ferrari is very much at the limit right now. as both titles are gone, they are pushing like mad and that can be dangerous. first the engine blown up by alonso on friday fp1 and now massas front suspension collapses. its not as others havent cut the kerb too.

massa not to blame i say. also note, he was again incredibly close to alonso and given fair and equal cars tomorrow be a big challenge to him.

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The stewards didn't penalise Hamilton for once?! What is this, INCEPTION???

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You haven't realized it yet? The stewards have a hard on for Hamilton / Mclaren in general. /s

FTFY.

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Hamilton had reached the point along side Massa where Massa could see him...it wasn't a random lunge up the inside, Hamilton was there, Massa turned in, gets a penalty.

not that it matters now he's broken his suspension again!

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The stewards didn't penalise Hamilton for once?! What is this, INCEPTION???

FTFY.

Really? Let's go back to the Canada GP shall we? Hamilton crashes into Webber and takes 3-4 other cars with them, and then nearly crashes out his own team mate while trying to race him into the pit lane. And what did he get in return?

Oh nothing, the stewards cleared him.

Not to mention the amount of crashes he's caused / been a part of in this season. But yes he has been penalized for them.

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MightyJordan

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Really? Let's go back to the Canada GP shall we? Hamilton crashes into Webber and takes 3-4 other cars with them, and then nearly crashes out his own team mate while trying to race him into the pit lane. And what did he get in return?

Oh nothing, the stewards cleared him.

Not to mention the amount of crashes he's caused / been a part of in this season. But yes he has been penalized for them.

The biggest surprise is not that he wasn't penalised for being involved in an accident in general, it's that he wasn't penalised for being involved in an accident with a Ferrari!

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TheLegendOfMart

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Reject of the season has been Felipe, closely followed by Mark Webber. Felipe gets into these accidents too much and its somehow everyone elses fault.

Like the orange curb situation everyone else managed fine yet Felipe managed to bin his car twice by smashing his suspension off it and he has the cheek to go crying about it to try and get them removed.

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Enjoyable GP. Wassup with Felipe bouncing off the same kerb twice?

He needs a booster seat to see where they are, obviously day-glow orange wasn't enough for him.

Did enjoy the race, maybe next year will be better when the track has been cleaned up and there are more overtaking opportunities.

Honestly think Massa's day's are numbered, but the question is who replaces him.

Thought Hamilton attempt at passing was clumsy at best, if he had a level head and took his time he could have passed Massa somewhere more appropriate. One way or another the gap was going to disappear.

And another faultless drive by both Vettel and Button, both showing up their teams mate inadequates. I think if Button can sort out his qualifying demons he might just give Red Bull and Vettel something to think about.

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simonlang

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im afraid to say this board has reached an alltime low! even alex wurz today - and he hates felipe massa like no one else - called it a racing accident and was very surprised when felipe got the drive through. as a driver who was involved in a very serious nearly deadly accident he has a good reason to ask for security to be improved. on EVERY other track they manage to make the kerbs the way that you can use them, or the way that you cant use them. they need to improve this track and the situation.

you really think that a driver who was the best during 2007 - 2009 has now completely lost it? yes, sure......

very happy to see schumacher improving and improving. now he needs just a better car and get rid of the qualifying problems and then ferrari, mclaren and maybe redbull (except vettel) will be under heavy pressure.

no need to write anything about vettel. he cant do any better. and still winning.

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as a driver who was involved in a very serious nearly deadly accident he has a good reason to ask for security to be improved. on EVERY other track they manage to make the kerbs the way that you can use them, or the way that you cant use them. they need to improve this track and the situation.

you really think that a driver who was the best during 2007 - 2009 has now completely lost it? yes, sure......

You see that big strip of tarmac that is 20 feet wide, thats called a 'road', Cars drive on roads.

The other drivers managed fine, if he didnt cut the corner so much he wouldnt trash his suspension thats twice hes done it in as many days, you shouldnt be able to cut a corner so much without a penalty and the penalty is damaged suspension.

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