Just how many people hate Windows 8?

By Dot Matrix
in Microsoft (Windows)

 Share

Recommended Posts

Grand Master

MorganX

Posted
Posted

Except the onboard GPU limitations are more of a roadblock for most PG.

Totally OT, but it would be great to see MS create a DirectPhysX API that utilized Intel HD Graphics in desktops with discrete video for Physics processing. It's a shame for all those transistors to go to waste in tens, no hundreds of millions of desktops with discrete graphics.

Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

I got a call from a customer today and we started talking about new computers.

She said "If I do get a new computer i'll have to get one with Windows 7, because you can't get one with windows 8"

I asked.. "Why not?"

She said "Because I heard there was so many problems with Windows 8 that it's been recalled" :D

Grand Master

PGHammer

Posted
Posted

Everyone else asks me if they can use Windows 8 on their computer without a touch screen.

warwagon, ever heard the proverb "Assumption is the mother of all muckups"?

I would wager that a good half of the criticism is grounded in the absolutely false assumption that ModernUI is touch-only.

While ModernUI works better with touch than Win32, the fault for that isn't with ModernUI (or even Win32, for that matter) - touch interfaces predate Win32; however, they were costly, costly, costly.

Touch interfaces are less costly to implement on the hardware level than ever, and are pervasive in the portable space. While they aren't exactly hyper-cheap in the desktop space, the cost is half what it was merely when Windows 7 launched.

Even with that, touch is not exactly commonplace on desktops, and Microsoft knows it - therefore, contrary to the prevailing assumption, ModernUI, and applications that use it, are still quite usable without touch, or even with a keyboard and mouse. (While few ModernUI applications have stayed in my toolchest, keyboard/mouse support issues aren't why.)

In other words, the "prevailing wisdom" is absolutely wrong about ModernUI's usability without touch.

Grand Master

PGHammer

Posted
Posted

^ You have to admit, though, that it works better with touch. It seems more like a tablet UI than a desktop UI anyway, at least to me.

Growled, I wouldn't know that - I don't have touch support on my desktop.

However, that is precisely the point, Growled - the only reason ModernUI has touch support *at all* is because the presence of hardware supporting it is more commonplace.

What's rather amusing is that I have NO experience using Windows 8 in a touch environment. None. Not even in a retailer display. The only other Windows 8 computer I have physically seen and had hands-on with was a traditional notebook that originally came with Windows 7; an upgrade from 7, that is. (The only touch-UI OSes I have had hands-on with in terms of general usage are Android and iOS - in Android's case, I noted that keyboards and mice are also supported. That particular piece of Android-based hardware was the ASUS Transformer Prime - and is why I pointed out that it made as little sense to pigeonhole ModernUI as it did to pigeonhole Android.)

And *seems* is precisely why I made my point - perception CAN be wrong.

  • 2 weeks later...
Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

Just got off the phone with someone with a Windows 8 .... Windows 8 is a phone support nightmare. Put your mouse in such in such a corner, press the windows key, press the windows key + C key. Just feels like a lot more work.

She was telling me how much she hates windows 8, then her daughter heard her say that ,and in the back ground I hear her daughter say "Windows 8 sucks!"

Mentor

Azies

Posted
Posted

I don't hate it, I hate it's out of the box driver support for my laptop, and having to hunt down my chipset drivers to fix my excessive hard drive read/write response times... I tell you going from an average of 6000ms to 40ms and 0.0 - 0.7 response time while having Firefox open is a big difference.. >_>

Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

I'm starting to wonder how many consumers actually like windows 8. Today went in to install a network card in a business computer. Because the internet on his desktop didn't work he had to use his windows 8 laptop. He kept telling me how much he hates windows 8.

I keep hearing this

over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over an over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and Well you get the idea.

Grand Master

xendrome

Posted
Posted

I'm starting to wonder how many consumers actually like windows 8. Today went in to install a network card in a business computer. Because the internet on his desktop didn't work he had to use his windows 8 laptop. He kept telling me how much he hates windows 8.

I keep hearing this

over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over an over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and Well you get the idea.

It's the thing all the cool kids are saying these days.

Now since today's news of a visible start button icon being added to the task bar, people are already complaining with "I don't want this how can I hide it!".

It's literally insane....

Grand Master

Growled Member

Posted
  • Member
Posted

I'm starting to wonder how many consumers actually like windows 8. Today went in to install a network card in a business computer. Because the internet on his desktop didn't work he had to use his windows 8 laptop. He kept telling me how much he hates windows 8.

I keep hearing this

over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over an over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and Well you get the idea.

But if you ask the fanboys they will tell you what a winner Windows 8 is and how we are doing it wrong. They can't be wrong and we can't be right.

  • 2 weeks later...
Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

I was at the bar last night and the female bartender and I some how got into the discussion about computers and she had to make it very clear to me how much she HATES windows 8. She also hates it when her husband uses the computer because he's totally lost.

Grand Master

chrisj1968

Posted
Posted

I'm getting into ReactOS. It'll be based upon XP/2003 officially, it's code base has been audited and contains absolutely NO MS code. As it stands right now, it will allow for pretty much all drivers and software to be installed.

I have no issue with going back to the XP/2003 subsystem and UI but, that's why we love and enjoy being able to make the look that pleases us.

besides... I can use my MS software without putting anymore money into MS's pockets. I read their site and even Vladimir Putin visited their studios for a demonstration as Russia wants to change their software/OS vendor

But if you ask the fanboys they will tell you what a winner Windows 8 is and how we are doing it wrong. They can't be wrong and we can't be right.

I read this and you hit that nail on the head. Windows 8 may be a OS to boldly go where no one has gone before but, Do we want to go there at all? -no.

Grand Master

BeerFan

Posted
Posted

My hate for using Windows 8 on a desktop grows daily. It just plain makes no sense, and makes less sense the more I use it.

Among other things, Windows 8.1 introduces a neat new calculator Metro app - woohoo! Seriously, WTF? Why in the name of all that is unholy would i ever want to run a FULL SCREEN calculator on my 30" desktop monitor? That results in an enormous, 30" calculator, which makes about as much sense as Andrea Borman on drugs. (sorry, had to!) I am completely and totally against all that is Metro. I feel that the entire idea behind full screen Metro apps is seriously flawed if you are not using a touch-enabled, hand-held device. The only Metro app I use (besides the Desktop of course - which is actually just an app) is the Remote Desktop app.

I realize that Microsoft is trying to move in the direction of a unified experience across multiple platforms (desktop, laptop, tablet, phone). But, I disagree with and honestly dislike that direction because in effect, it fundamentally changes the desktop experience for the worse.

  • 2 weeks later...
Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

Tonight I walked into one of the bars for a diet coke and the VERY first thing the male bartender says to me is "I have a question for you". He said "my daughter just got a new computer with windows 8 on it and she HATES it. Then he had questions about putting Windows 7 on it. He said her cousin told her NOT to get a computer with windows 8 because she wouldn't like it.

Grand Master

chrisj1968

Posted
Posted

it's a tablet Os. period. they tried to appeal to laptop/desktop users. There will always be articles for or against windows 8. It will be interesting to see how successful it is when they develop windows 9.

Grand Master

cyoung1616

Posted
Posted

I don't understand the hate thing. The only reason I could see to hate, is if it (win8) was the only choice we had, but it's not. I still use 7 and I have tested 8, true it's different but I could adapt to it. I use windows 7 because I enjoy using it and I have a choice to use what I want. I don't care what other people love or hate, I just care about myself and having a choice.

 

 

Cody Young

Mentor

dvb2000

Posted
Posted

Now since today's news of a visible start button icon being added to the task bar, people are already complaining with "I don't want this how can I hide it!".

 

that's because it doesn't work. All it does is take you back to the Metro screen.

 

The Start Button is supposed to take you to the start menu.

 

Pretty simple stuff.

Proficient

matt4pack

Posted
Posted

Windows 8 is a mess from the split metro/classic control panels, mouse hot corners, slow/full screen metro apps and so on.  There are good aspects like the copy dialogs and task manager but not enough to overcome the bad.  The fact that there are 2 design languages and even Microsoft doesn't know which one to use is the greatest sin.

 

The zune software was some of the best software design Microsoft ever did but then they decided to go so overboard on everything.  A Windows 7 type desktop experience built around the design queues of that would have been great. 

This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Posts

    • Halo: Campaign Evolved is out next month with new prequel missions

      By mcloum · Posted

      If its the devs fault you would think Unreal would help M$ take full advantage of Unreal and work with them to fix the performance issues. Otherwise they are catching unwarranted bad press.
    • AMD 9070XT

      By cooky560 · Posted

      Thanks for the advice guys, I'll give my current GPU a clean and then run the benchmarks to see how similar it is. Hopefully a bit of a clean-out will help it last a bit longer.
    • Ninja Theory's new Hellblade game is action-focused and set in Purgatory

      By +pmrd · Posted

      Pretty sure those will still be in this game. The series' well-explored psychosis themes will return as well.
    • Microsoft confirms a new, useful Teams' app is coming very soon

      By hellowalkman · Posted

      "performance issues? what performance issues?!"
    • Microsoft making much needed change to Windows 11, 10 Patch Tuesday security updates

      By hellowalkman · Posted

      Microsoft making much needed change to Windows 11, 10 Patch Tuesday security updates by Sayan Sen Recently, Microsoft delivered its latest Defender patches for Windows 11 ISOs. These definitions are released from time to time alongside the general security updates available during Patch Tuesday. Speaking of Defender, the company has now announced another important change that affects how security updates are delivered to enterprise devices running Windows. According to a recent announcement, Microsoft Defender for Endpoint's endpoint detection and response (EDR) updates will no longer be bundled with the monthly Windows security updates or Patch Tuesdays. Instead the company is shifting delivery of these updates to Microsoft Update, bringing EDR servicing in line with several other Microsoft Defender components. If you recall, Microsoft last year moved PowerShell updates to Microsoft Update (MU) as well since it provides automatic updates for Microsoft products and services. Thus the move is intended to allow Microsoft to deliver EDR improvements and security enhancements independently of the OS's regular monthly update cycle; this should enable faster deployment of protection updates without requiring organizations to wait for the next Patch release. For those unfamiliar, Microsoft Defender for Endpoint's EDR capabilities are designed to help organizations detect, investigate, and respond to advanced threats across managed devices. Keeping these components updated is critical for maintaining protection against evolving attack techniques. The rollout has already began for Windows 10 devices in late May 2026 (last month) and Microsoft says it will gradually expand support to Windows 11 and the remaining supported Windows versions over the coming months. The company expects deployment across Windows 10 and Windows 11 to be completed by fall 2026 or around Q3 of this year. Once the transition is complete, EDR updates will be delivered through Microsoft Update using KB5005292, provided the required prerequisite updates have already been installed. Microsoft is also introducing a new Defender Update Service as part of the change. Following installation of the first update, devices will automatically create a new directory located at %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Microsoft Defender\Defender Update. Microsoft notes that restarts may occasionally be necessary in case of "rare" failure scenarios. For most organizations, the tech giant says no action will be required as long as Microsoft Update is already permitted within their update management strategy. Admins who rely on manually deployed update packages, however, will need to adjust their processes to ensure the new Defender update package is included. Microsoft also recommends reviewing internal documentation and notifying helpdesk and security operations teams about the updated delivery mechanism to avoid confusion during the transition. As a prerequisite, the tech giant notes that systems must be running Sense version 10.8798.25857.1000 or later and have one of the following Windows updates (or later) installed: Win11 24H2 KB5062660 (2025-07 Cumulative Update Preview) Win11 23H2 KB5062663 (2025-07 Cumulative Update Preview) Win11 22H2 KB5062663 (2025-07 Cumulative Update Preview) Win10 22H2 KB5062649 (2025-07 Cumulative Update Preview) Win10 1809 KB5063877 (2025-08 Cumulative Update) Server 2019 KB5063877 (2025-08 Cumulative Update) Server 2022 KB5063880 (2025-08 Cumulative Update) Server 2025 KB5063878 (2025-08 Cumulative Update) As always, organizations should verify that their update policies align with the new servicing approach before the broader rollout reaches all supported Windows platforms later this year. In case of major problems, the EDR update can be rolled back to the inbox version stored in %ProgramFiles%\\Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection (ATP) using: MpCmdRun.exe -RevertMde -Product Edr -ToVersion Inbox For those who have access to the Microsoft 365 Admin Center portal, you can view the message here under ID MC1381119.

  • Recent Achievements

    • One Month Later
      DJC50PLUS earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      DJC50PLUS earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Proficient
      Eric Biran went up a rank
      Proficient
    • Dedicated
      Conjor earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • Week One Done
      Windows Guy earned a badge
      Week One Done

  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      493
    2. 2
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      248
    3. 3
      Steven P.
      73
    4. 4
      +Edouard
      69
    5. 5
      neufuse
      68
    Show More

  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!