Solution to get rid Windows 8 haters

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Microsoft has no interest in maintaining to entirely different paradigms for launching apps and changing computer settings. its costly and adds complexity not just for users but for the developers and introduces a lot more failure points for bugs. the only reason we still have the old control panel is because they didn't have time to migrate the full control panel with all settings by Win8 launch.

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No. It's a mock up of how simple it would be for Microsoft make everyone happy.

Enable exclusive mode for either;

- Windows 8 UI only

No access to desktop, a bit like kiosk mode but with full access to everything Metro.

- Desktop only.

Ignoring the need for charms, quick switch and the other slide menus. It allows space for start menu and start button.

Or leave exclusive mode off and use it how it is now.

Good in theory. I need Office on the Desktop and I want Mixture of Modern UI as well. I would completely disable Modern UI when there is a Modern UI version of Microsoft Office is released.

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Provide an option using the installation or in the control panel to choose between the start menu or start screen. Keeping everybody happy. Windows 95 did this and eventually people switched to the new Ul and the older Ul was no longer needed so it was removed from Windows XP SP2. :)

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If you put something like this in the control panel how will people find it when they can't find the control panel? ;)
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I think that will be a neat suggestion and will be a win win situation for everyone. If you want to play with metro theme then select metro but if you don't like metro abomination then simply choose the option and gid rid of metro crap forever.

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No they removed the code to clean up the source and to make it more efficient and reduce the chance of bugs across different modules and to not have to waste resources maintaining to systems for the same thing.

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Knife Party

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Provide an option using the installation or in the control panel to choose between the start menu or start screen. Keeping everybody happy. Windows 95 did this and eventually people switched to the new Ul and the older Ul was no longer needed so it was removed from Windows XP SP2. :)

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how about this, how about all the avid windows 8 lovers stop making stupid threads about how they want to live in LA LA Land, please give me a break child!

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LimeMaster

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how about this, how about all the avid windows 8 lovers stop making stupid threads about how they want to live in LA LA Land, please give me a break child!

A better solution would be for the people who don't mind Windows 8 to only post on Windows 8 topics that are positive not the negative ones as this causes fights and the people who dislike Windows 8 should stay away from Windows 8 topics unless they have something new to point out. :)

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A better solution would be for the people who don't mind Windows 8 to only post on Windows 8 topics that are positive not the negative ones as this causes fights and the people who dislike Windows 8 should stay away from Windows 8 topics unless they have something new to point out. :)

Wow really? Do you want that for everything then? Nobody will be allowed to vote below 5-star on product reviews? Only comment if you love it, otherwise shut up?

I use Windows 8. I like it like it much better than Windows 7. But there are just 3 things that irritate the hell out of me - so for that I am a Windows 8 hater? If we all just keep our mouths shut, what good does that do anybody?

I guess in today's world that is the attitude huh? Like the product, feel free to discuss it. If there is ANYTHING you do not like about it, keep your mouth shut.

I have not see these true "Windows 8 haters" like you guys seem to keep on mentioning. As I said, I like Windows 8 MUCH better than Windows 7, but there are several things I do not like about it. If we keep our mouth shut, nothing will happen.

Isn't this pretty pathetic MS created something that split the tech community so much like this? What the hell was Microsoft thinking? I guess they did not learn anything from Vista.

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Isn't this pretty pathetic MS created something that split the tech community so much like this? What the hell was Microsoft thinking? I guess they did not learn anything from Vista.

I think at this point all the "Windows 8 hater" nonsense is more psychological, group think, belonging to a group psychosis more than anything practical.

Very few pro-Win 8 users have anything to say about what great Modern Apps they would like to see. Yet continue to trumpet its virtues? The peculiar thing, the people labeled as Windows 8 Haters, want to see things in the OS be improved or removed. The Pro Windows 8 camp, want people who don't love everything about Windows 8 in its current state removed.

Hmmm.... software product improved vs. people who disagree with me removed. Something just ain't quite mentally right with that.

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LimeMaster

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Wow really? Do you want that for everything then? Nobody will be allowed to vote below 5-star on product reviews? Only comment if you love it, otherwise shut up?

I use Windows 8. I like it like it much better than Windows 7. But there are just 3 things that irritate the hell out of me - so for that I am a Windows 8 hater? If we all just keep our mouths shut, what good does that do anybody?

I guess in today's world that is the attitude huh? Like the product, feel free to discuss it. If there is ANYTHING you do not like about it, keep your mouth shut.

I have not see these true "Windows 8 haters" like you guys seem to keep on mentioning. As I said, I like Windows 8 MUCH better than Windows 7, but there are several things I do not like about it. If we keep our mouth shut, nothing will happen.

Isn't this pretty pathetic MS created something that split the tech community so much like this? What the hell was Microsoft thinking? I guess they did not learn anything from Vista.

My previous post was aimed at people who hate Windows 8 as whole and won't bother trying it. It is also directed at people who defend Windows 8 more than they should. People are using the same new interesting criticisms and use existing criticisms topics for the old criticisms (e.g. No start menu).

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Guys. This will never happen. Notice on the desktop how Metro popups and flyouts appear now instead of old dialog boxes. The old code for those old boxes was removed from the codebase. The code for the Start Menu was removed from the codebase.

Little by little, old code is being replaced with more efficient and streamlined Metro code. I'm confused why no one here can seem to understand that. Just look at the leaked Metro CP in Windows 8.1 - we finally have a unified Control Panel! It's guaranteed to replace the old one and all those horrible, disjointed CP control boxes in the near future. After that happens, the old Control Panel code will be removed as well.

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Guys. This will never happen. Notice on the desktop how Metro popups and flyouts appear now instead of old dialog boxes. The old code for those old boxes was removed from the codebase. The code for the Start Menu was removed from the codebase.

Little by little, old code is being replaced with more efficient and streamlined Metro code. I'm confused why no one here can seem to understand that. Just look at the leaked Metro CP in Windows 8.1 - we finally have a unified Control Panel! It's guaranteed to replace the old one and all those horrible, disjointed CP control boxes in the near future. After that happens, the old Control Panel code will be removed as well.

Um from what other people have said, that is false. Isnt Startisback just an activator for the old code that still exists?

And the code for those dialogs is gone? Really? Take a look at the Networking metro dialog (Windows 8) vs the Action Center dialog (windows 8). The Action Center dialog (windows 8) looks EXACTLY like the networking dialog (windows 7). Therefore, the code still exists.

What about the volume controls dialog. That looks the same as it did in Windows 7 (not metro).

What about the additional notification icons - same dialog as in Windows 7

What about the clock / calendar view - same as in Windows 7.

So the code still exists to create those dialogs vs the metro ones. All of this mixture of Metro dialog vs desktop dialog is what irritates us users the most. It is a schizophrenic OS and there is no denying that.

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LimeMaster

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Guys. This will never happen. Notice on the desktop how Metro popups and flyouts appear now instead of old dialog boxes. The old code for those old boxes was removed from the codebase. The code for the Start Menu was removed from the codebase.

Microsoft brings back old features all the time like the Maintenance wizard from Windows 98 has made a return in Windows 8. So my suggestion could still work as an alternative to those who dislike metro. :)

(Note: I don't mind Metro or the Start Screen. Just saying that more options would be nice.)

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neo158

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I find it quite hilarious how sensitive Windows 8 fans are.

Question: Why do they care? Aren't they aware most of us are just pushing their buttons?

Lighten up, Windows 8 lovers. ;)

Decent suggestion, OP.

I love Windows 8 and there's no reason why the OP suggestion couldn't be an option during or after install but knowing Microsoft it won't even be an option and a Start Button and boot to desktop will be forced on everyone. :/ :(

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Dot Matrix

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I love Windows 8 and there's no reason why the OP suggestion couldn't be an option during or after install but knowing Microsoft it won't even be an option and a Start Button and boot to desktop will be forced on everyone. :/ :(

Like I said above, the old, legacy code is being removed as it's being replaced.

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