formula 1 Formula 1 World Championship 2014 Season Discussion

[Lovell]

Using Monaco as a barometer is quite a bad idea.

 

 Why would Mercedes, Renault, Ferrari who supply all of the engines bother with an F1 with very little monetary value for them? right now they're able to make v6 2.0 litre engines that can go 200mph, the main reason the big manufacturers come to F1 is the technology they create can be used in their road cars.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Why the hell is Hamilton not stopping when he has something in his left eye?

[Lovell]

Well least we now know what it takes for Rosberg to win just cheat.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Well least we now know what it takes for Rosberg to win just cheat.

Except that he didn't cheat or pull a Schumacher - yesterday's error was a driving error.

[Lovell]

Really braking 15m late and then reversing back onto the track was a driving error? really? even if the braking 15m late was an error reversing back onto the track definitely wasn't.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

 

Man of the race: Jules Bianchi

Reject of the race: Lewis Hamilton

[theyarecomingforyou]

Reject of the race: Lewis Hamilton

That's not fair at all, as he was within a second of Rosberg for pretty much the entire race and only suffered due to something getting in his eye.

 

Reject of the race: Raikkonen, for not being able to take a slow corner without crashing into the barrier.

[Noir Angel]

Congratulations, Nico Cheatberg. Carrying on the tradition of German drivers acting like complete arses (Y). Great to see one of the smaller outfits get their first points though.

[HawkMan]

Using Monaco as a barometer is quite a bad idea.

 

 Why would Mercedes, Renault, Ferrari who supply all of the engines bother with an F1 with very little monetary value for them? right now they're able to make v6 2.0 litre engines that can go 200mph, the main reason the big manufacturers come to F1 is the technology they create can be used in their road cars.

They bothered before, why would this change just because they're licensed to make all the engines. which is stupid anyway, but besides the point. 

 

They literally turned F1 into F3001 Changing F1 just to cater to a ew poor teams who couldn't afford to help develop car technology and who still can't compete and re several laps behind. It's stupid. 

 

It's F1 is should be as fast as you can make it, and being an ultimate extreme sport it should be dangerous. If you're afraid to drive an F1 care because it's dangerous then don't. there where enough drivers who still willingly drove even when they shouldn't like Senna, who knew something was wrong with the car and didn't feel right about it. 

[Lovell]

Congrats to Daniel Ricciardo, he should be 3rd now? 

[HawkMan]

That's not fair at all, as he was within a second of Rosberg for pretty much the entire race and only suffered due to something getting in his eye.

 

Reject of the race: Raikkonen, for not being able to take a slow corner without crashing into the barrier.

 

Wouldn't that be the guy in front of him who crashed into the wall and punctured his rear tire...

[mps69]

I honestly didn't think my opinion of Hamilton could get any lower but it just did. That is just sour grapes, he's a poor looser.

The steward weren't proven that Nico didn't gain the pole by cheating, so it's clear cut, and today he simply out drove Hamilton fair and square.

Meanwhile Riccardo, what a drive, top man....could his smile at the end of the race get any wider.

[Lovell]

They bothered before, why would this change just because they're licensed to make all the engines. which is stupid anyway, but besides the point. 

 

They literally turned F1 into F3001 Changing F1 just to cater to a ew poor teams who couldn't afford to help develop car technology and who still can't compete and re several laps behind. It's stupid. 

 

It's F1 is should be as fast as you can make it, and being an ultimate extreme sport it should be dangerous. If you're afraid to drive an F1 care because it's dangerous then don't. there where enough drivers who still willingly drove even when they shouldn't like Senna, who knew something was wrong with the car and didn't feel right about it. 

 

You're comparing an era to where a man could set up his own team and build a car in his garage and win the championship to an era where it costs 100s of millions who exactly do you expect to put up that kind of money? 

[theyarecomingforyou]

 

It's F1 is should be as fast as you can make it, and being an ultimate extreme sport it should be dangerous. If you're afraid to drive an F1 care because it's dangerous then don't. there where enough drivers who still willingly drove even when they shouldn't like Senna, who knew something was wrong with the car and didn't feel right about it. 

F1 isn't about being dangerous, it's about having the best drivers and the best manufacturers in the world competing against each other. The sport used to be incredibly dangerous and even last year we saw drivers put at risk with exploding tyres. This year we've already seen cars flipped over. The reason manufacturers are limited isn't just to help the smaller teams but to stop the biggest teams pouring in effectively unlimited money. It's about developing cars within predefined parameters and putting the best drivers in them.

 

Wouldn't that be the guy in front of him who crashed into the wall and punctured his rear tire...

Raikkonen locked his tyres and wasn't able to turn in time, putting his nose into the barrier.

[HawkMan]

You're comparing an era to where a man could set up his own team and build a car in his garage and win the championship to an era where it costs 100s of millions who exactly do you expect to put up that kind of money? 

 

That's BS an you know it. to do that you would need a shitload of money, and Mclaren(Mercedes) and Ferrari was still on top. the only ones who could compete was other sports car manufacturers who had a vested interest in driving the technology forward. you're thinking of an era even before this. Before Mika and Michael. 

 

Even then they had to spend a lot of money, those home made garage cars where made by VERY VERY rich people and if you converted the money to todays with inflation, you'd see some ridiculous budgets for those cars. 

 

Either way I expect the companies who can actually make the cars to race with to put up that kind of money, like they did before. not a race where anyone can license a car an participate in poor mans F1. just because some people thought it's better to have lots of teams that actual fast ultimate F1 cars. F1 don't make new technology anymore, all new car technology is no made from Rally. 

 

 

F1 isn't about being dangerous, it's about having the best drivers and the best manufacturers in the world competing against each other. The sport used to be incredibly dangerous and even last year we saw drivers put at risk with exploding tyres. This year we've already seen cars flipped over. The reason manufacturers are limited isn't just to help the smaller teams but to stop the biggest teams pouring in effectively unlimited money. It's about developing cars within predefined parameters and putting the best drivers in them.

 

Raikkonen locked his tyres and wasn't able to turn in time, putting his nose into the barrier.

 

 

No F1 isn't about eing dangerous. But when you make a car that's on the brink of what you can make it's inherrently going to be dangerous. when you stop that and make cars where safety is the major de facto requirement and everything else like performance comes second, it's NOT EFFING F1

[Chasethebase Veteran]

The LH fans in this thread in a nutshell:

 

 

Also points for Marussia!!! Can't believe it!

[theyarecomingforyou]

No F1 isn't about eing dangerous. But when you make a car that's on the brink of what you can make it's inherrently going to be dangerous. when you stop that and make cars where safety is the major de facto requirement and everything else like performance comes second, it's NOT EFFING F1

That's how F1 has been for the past decade, so it seems that you're the one who's confused about what F1 is.

[HawkMan]

That's how F1 has been for the past decade, so it seems that you're the one who's confused about what F1 is.

And for the last decade it hasn't been F1 it's g

Been gradually a pond not so gradually dumbed down and turned into F3001. When there's faster and better cars in LeMans and GTP something is wrong.

[philcruicks]

Really braking 15m late and then reversing back onto the track was a driving error? really? even if the braking 15m late was an error reversing back onto the track definitely wasn't.

He didn't reverse back onto the track....quite the opposite, he drove as far down the escape road as he could.....

 

It's F1 is should be as fast as you can make it, and being an ultimate extreme sport it should be dangerous. If you're afraid to drive an F1 care because it's dangerous then don't. there where enough drivers who still willingly drove even when they shouldn't like Senna, who knew something was wrong with the car and didn't feel right about it.

You do realise that this years F1 cars are faster than last years... I believe about 10-20kph faster was the figure I heard.

[ctebah]

  You do realise that this years F1 cars are faster than last years... I believe about 10-20kph faster was the figure I heard.

 

Cars are on average slower than 2013.  Lap times from races up to this point prove that.

 

Also, poor Hamilton.  The guy always whines.

[HawkMan]

He didn't reverse back onto the track....quite the opposite, he drove as far down the escape road as he could.....

You do realise that this years F1 cars are faster than last years... I believe about 10-20kph faster was the figure I heard.

Considering last year they practically drove go carts with loud engines, that's hardly a very good metric

[MightyJordan]

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[Chasethebase Veteran]

Also shame about Kimi's race, if not for the unfortunate events he could have easily been in with the chance of a podium. To be fair he did something very silly at the end with Mag though, that did help Bianchi so I'm not complaining!

[Lovell]

He didn't reverse back onto the track....quite the opposite, he drove as far down the escape road as he could.....

  You do realise that this years F1 cars are faster than last years... I believe about 10-20kph faster was the figure I heard.

 

 

And then he reversed back onto the track. 

 

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/12472/9324353/nico-rosberg-under-investigation-by-the-monaco-stewards-after-pole-controversy

 

 

How many times did Kimi pit?

[HawkMan]

And then he reversed back onto the track. 

 

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/12472/9324353/nico-rosberg-under-investigation-by-the-monaco-stewards-after-pole-controversy

 

 

How many times did Kimi pit?

Twice, which is also twice as many times as everyone else :)