Malaysia Airlines 'loses contact with plane' (and search effort updates)

[ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm]

debris could end up anywhere if you think about it, or even get wedged against rocks somewhere, then eroded away by the sea and never been seen by people just walking on a beach.

 

but if it never crashed then who knows what happend to it...

[Hum]

The next phase in the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 will be a more intense underwater search that will use private contractors, take months and cost about $56 million, officials said Monday.

"I regret to say that thus far none of our efforts in the air, on the surface or under sea, have found any wreckage," Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said Monday.

Because it's "highly unlikely" that any debris will be found on the ocean surface, authorities will be suspending aerial searches. By now, most of the debris will have become waterlogged and will have sunk, he said.

Crews will now conduct a thorough search of the ocean floor over a much larger area -- 60,000 square kilometers. The process could take at least six to eight months.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/28/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[neufuse Veteran]

Where is Google when you need them with a new Map called "SeaView"... roam the sea floor on google maps...

[Hum]

^ A lot of this area has never been photographed, by anyone.

[neufuse Veteran]

^ A lot of this area has never been photographed, by anyone.

I know, that's why I was making the joke to get google on it

[Skiver Veteran]

I know, that's why I was making the joke to get google on it

Because its exactly the type of thing Google would do, lets face it they have the money and time to probably actually do something to map the entire ocean floor out.

[neufuse Veteran]

Because its exactly the type of thing Google would do, lets face it they have the money and time to probably actually do something to map the entire ocean floor out.

 

They probably want to, just have Gov's stopping them from finding those deep sea Alien Bases that HUM knows about :shiftyninja:

[ATLien_0]

The thing is, I have to wonder at this point. Is it worth it to spend the $56 million for the additional underwater search. Aside from the supposed radar data, and supposed pings, there hasn't been any concrete evidence yet. What if they spend all that money and the plane isn't there.I know this is a horrible thing to say especially with the families

[Polonium]

The thing is, I have to wonder at this point. Is it worth it to spend the $56 million for the additional underwater search. Aside from the supposed radar data, and supposed pings, there hasn't been any concrete evidence yet. What if they spend all that money and the plane isn't there.I know this is a horrible thing to say especially with the families

 

They HAVE to conduct this search. Regardless of if they know it's not crashed, or it's been abducted, or even if the US have blown it out of the sky (as some conspiracy theories suggest), they have to be seen to be actively searching for it until they have nothing left to search it with.

 

The Governments would be in all worlds of trouble if they walked away now.

 

If somebody, somewhere knows what happened to this plane (and I find it really hard to accept that nobody does), this is the time they need to come forward. $56M is a LOT of money that would be better spent elsewhere.

[pallipdrsn0]

Where is Google when you need them with a new Map called "SeaView"... roam the sea floor on google maps...

 

Well, there's a site that does have satellite images and is requesting people to participate in trying to locate the darndest plane ...no idea why the media have never reported on it

[Hum]

If somebody, somewhere knows what happened to this plane (and I find it really hard to accept that nobody does), this is the time they need to come forward. $56M is a LOT of money that would be better spent elsewhere.

Seems like $56 million would do a lot to help the families left behind.

[pallipdrsn0]

Who is footing the bill? The insurance company for Malaysian Airlines?

[neufuse Veteran]

Well, there's a site that does have satellite images and is requesting people to participate in trying to locate the darndest plane ...no idea why the media have never reported on it

that's sat images... I'm talking about something much deeper...

[Hum]

Who is footing the bill? The insurance company for Malaysian Airlines?

A few of the countries are chipping in, like Australia, Malaysia, USA.

[ATLien_0]

And in comparison, I believe the cost for the Air France 447 search were around $40 million. If anything this is a big training opportunity for other countries 

[Hum]

Plane wreckage in Bay of Bengal

 

Firm says it believes it has found a plane

 

 A private company declared that it has found what it believes is wreckage of a plane in the ocean, but leaders of the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 are dismissing the claim.

The reasons for the skepticism are obvious -- the site where GeoResonance says it found the wreckage, in the Bay of Bengal, is several thousand miles away from the current search area in the southern Indian Ocean.

The Joint Agency Coordination Centre, which is coordinating the multinational search, dismissed the claim.

"The Australian-led search is relying on information from satellite and other data to determine the missing aircraft's location," the JACC said.

"The location specified by the GeoResonance report is not within the search arc derived from this data. The joint international team is satisfied that the final resting place of the missing aircraft is in the southerly portion of the search arc."

 

Malaysian acting Transportation Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said Malaysia "is working with its international partners to assess the credibility of this information."

 

GeoResonance's technology was created to search for nuclear, biological and chemical weaponry under the ocean or beneath the earth in bunkers, Pope said.

 

The company began its search four days after the plane went missing and sent officials initial findings on March 31, Pope said. It followed up with a full report on April 15.

 

The company's director, David Pope, said he did not want to go public with the information at first, but his information was disregarded.

 

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-georesonance-wreckage-of-a-commercial-airliner-found/

 

"During the search for MH370, GeoResonance searched for chemical elements that make up a Boeing 777: aluminum, titanium, copper, steel alloys, jet fuel residue, and several other substances. The aim was to find a location where all those elements were present," said the company in the written statement.

 

Scanning "multispectral images" taken from the air on March 10 -- two days after Flight 370 went missing -- GeoResonance says it found "an anomaly in one place in the Bay of Bengal" where many of those relevant materials were detected in significant amounts, and in a pattern which matched the approximate layout of a large aircraft.

 

The company said analysis of images take of the same area five days earlier showed the "anomaly had appeared between the 5th and 10th of March 2014."

[Richteralan]

Plane wreckage in Bay of Bengal

 

Firm says it believes it has found a plane

 

 A private company declared that it has found what it believes is wreckage of a plane in the ocean, but leaders of the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 are dismissing the claim.

The reasons for the skepticism are obvious -- the site where GeoResonance says it found the wreckage, in the Bay of Bengal, is several thousand miles away from the current search area in the southern Indian Ocean.

The Joint Agency Coordination Centre, which is coordinating the multinational search, dismissed the claim.

"The Australian-led search is relying on information from satellite and other data to determine the missing aircraft's location," the JACC said.

"The location specified by the GeoResonance report is not within the search arc derived from this data. The joint international team is satisfied that the final resting place of the missing aircraft is in the southerly portion of the search arc."

 

Malaysian acting Transportation Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said Malaysia "is working with its international partners to assess the credibility of this information."

 

GeoResonance's technology was created to search for nuclear, biological and chemical weaponry under the ocean or beneath the earth in bunkers, Pope said.

 

The company began its search four days after the plane went missing and sent officials initial findings on March 31, Pope said. It followed up with a full report on April 15.

 

The company's director, David Pope, said he did not want to go public with the information at first, but his information was disregarded.

 

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-georesonance-wreckage-of-a-commercial-airliner-found/

 

"During the search for MH370, GeoResonance searched for chemical elements that make up a Boeing 777: aluminum, titanium, copper, steel alloys, jet fuel residue, and several other substances. The aim was to find a location where all those elements were present," said the company in the written statement.

 

Scanning "multispectral images" taken from the air on March 10 -- two days after Flight 370 went missing -- GeoResonance says it found "an anomaly in one place in the Bay of Bengal" where many of those relevant materials were detected in significant amounts, and in a pattern which matched the approximate layout of a large aircraft.

 

The company said analysis of images take of the same area five days earlier showed the "anomaly had appeared between the 5th and 10th of March 2014."

That's within the possible northern route from the radar data. Let's see who'll downplay this lead first.

[Hum]

I wonder what it will take to get a sub or sonar there to at least check it out.

[Nashy]

I wonder what it will take to get a sub or sonar there to at least check it out.

 

Reports here in Australia have stated that this is a lead that must be investigated.

Good that they aren't dismissing it right off the bat.

[Richteralan]

Reports here in Australia have stated that this is a lead that must be investigated.

Good that they aren't dismissing it right off the bat.

I'm afraid that your report is opposite to every media channel:

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/29/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-color-red-mh370-tragedy-font-australia-dismiss-claims-by-exploration-firm-1.583251

 

Or unless Australia changed their mind within 24 hours.

[Hum]

This is what's wrong with governments and much of Science -- they won't get off their bums and go look at possible evidence.

 

The company used imaging, radiation chemistry and other technologies to search the 2 million square kilometres of the ocean floor for chemicals that are found in Boeing 777 jets, and discovered aluminium, titanium, jet fuel residue and other elements in the Bay of Bengal.

 

GeoResonance compared images taken on March 5 and 10 ? before and after the plane?s disappearance ? and found differences that could indicate a crash site.

 

The location is about 190km south of Bangladesh.

 

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/malaysian-officials-investigating-aussie-company-georesonances-claims-it-may-have-found-missing-malaysia-airlines-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1226900328886

 

[Crimson Rain]

So far, this is the best possible lead about the plane.

[exotoxic]

Because its exactly the type of thing Google would do, lets face it they have the money and time to probably actually do something to map the entire ocean floor out.

 

It would be quite interesting if they did, depending on the resolution i would imagine they would find lots of old wreaks and stuff. They would probably end up salvaging millions worth of stuff.

[Hum]

CNN reports that 2 Bangladesh ships are headed to the reported crash site in the Bay of Bengal.

 

Angus Houston said in a news conference, that any lead should be checked out.

 

Even as they were rejecting as far-fetched an Australian company's assertion that it may have identified the resting place of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 -- thousands of miles from where investigators have been searching -- experts acknowledged Wednesday that they have little choice but to check it out.

 

"The investigators are going to be hard-pressed to blow this off," said Mary Schiavo, a former inspector general for the Department of Transportation. "I think, at this point, because of the lack of results where they've been searching for six weeks, they're almost stuck. They have to go look."

 

Nevertheless, the company got its wish on Wednesday, when Bangladesh sent two navy frigates into the Bay of Bengal to the location cited by GeoResonance. "As soon as they get there, they will search and verify the information," Commodore Rashed Ali, director of Bangladesh navy intelligence, told CNN in Dhaka.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/30/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[xendrome]

So far, this is the best possible lead about the plane.

 

If you totally forget about the black box pings that were detected, sure.