Malaysia Airlines 'loses contact with plane' (and search effort updates)

[Hum]

Abducted by ET is more plausible :shiftyninja: :laugh:

There is a Youtube video of a supposed radar screen, showing a fast moving object at the same time flight MH370 turns. ;)

[Hum]

Do you have the patent number and name of the holders so we can really look it up?

Not to challenge anything, just curious. Because I Googled and found a list of names which claimed to be the patent holders. Now if we know the official document to approve/disprove this theory.

 

I think someone referenced the wrong patent:

 

http://truthnewsinternational.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/us008671381.pdf

 

passenger list: http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1443730/full-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-passenger-list

[snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member]

Folks, patent transfers don't work like this, they generally transfer to heirs AFAIK. Besides, snopes already debunked this:

 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/malaysiapatent.asp 

 

EDIT: eh, it doesn't like the linking... so you have to copy the link?

[Hum]

^ As far as I've read, patents can not be inherited until they have been approved.

[Hum]

Interesting coincidence -- 4 patent holders were supposed to be on Flight MH 370 -- but their exact names are not on the passenger list:

 

Four passengers not onboard MH370 replaced by standby passengers

 

The mystery behind the four passengers who checked in but did not board the Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH 370 was finally ?cleared? after it was revealed that four standby passengers had taken their seats.

 

Following a barrage of questions on the matter, MAS group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said of the 227 passengers, four who had bought tickets did not turn up to catch the flight to Beijing at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA).

 

Their places were taken by four people, who were standby passengers, he explained.

 

He, however did not reveal more about the four passengers.

 

https://my.news.yahoo.com/four-passengers-not-onboard-mh370-replaced-standby-passengers-104252154.html

[snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member]

^ As far as I've read, patents can not be inherited until they have been approved.

Transfers can occur at any time in the process:

http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/changeownership.jsp

 

Besides, Freescale was assigned the patent, so none of the individuals had any legal right to it anyway (they weren't patent holders despite being listed as inventors).

[Hum]

Oil slick sample not connected to Flight MH 370. .....Shocking.

 

 

(CNN) -- A prolonged undersea search for the Malaysian jetliner could cost nearly a quarter billion U.S. dollars if private companies are used, Australia's top transport official said Thursday.

 

Martin Dolan emphasized that the $234 million price tag is a "ballpark rough estimate" of an extended search and salvage mission.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/17/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews

[Richteralan]

This is the patent in question, the one in the article, along with those that hold it. (Though another patent popped up in the search, but none of those inventors were listed in the manifest either.)

 

The flight manifest

 

So basically Freescale owns the patent rights, 20 or so employees were on the flight in question. Freescale was bought out by Blackstone, which is connected to the Rothschild. (Tin-foil time) Claims are made that 4 of the 20 were patent holders. The problem is, none of the names on the patent were listed in the manifest. On top of that, the article tries to make an issue about when the patent was approved, 4 days after the disappearance. The problem with that is that the patent filed back in Dec 2012, it takes time to get approved. Yet another problem, Freescale had ownership over the patent, meaning the inventors were no longer connected to it, making the conspiracy of killing them off pointless. 

Thanks for the explanation. It seems now we are at zero again.

[Hum]

A mini-submarine searching for the missing Malaysian plane has completed a full mission at its third attempt.

 

Two previous missions to scour the floor of the Indian Ocean for wreckage were cut short by technical problems.

 

The data from the sub's latest mission is being analysed. Previous forays have not shown anything significant.

 

It is searching in the area acoustic signals thought to be from the missing plane's "black box" flight recorders were heard.

 

A sample from an oil slick in the area the acoustic signals were heard in was sent to Perth for testing. However, the JACC confirmed on Thursday that the oil sample was not aircraft engine oil or hydraulic fluid.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27048242

[Hum]

(CNN) -- An underwater drone dipped into the ocean Friday for its fifth trip to search for traces of the missing Malaysian plane as relatives of those aboard maintained their demand for answers.

As frustration bubbles over, the Bluefin-21 was busy scanning the southern Indian Ocean seabed. Authorities said the vessel has scanned a total of 110 square kilometers (42.5 square miles) without making any "contacts of interest."

After four dives, "there has been no debris or aircraft wreckage discovered," said Phoenix International Holdings, which owns and operates the equipment under a contract for the U.S. Navy.

The underwater vessel takes two hours to get near the ocean floor and another two hours to return to the surface. It aims to map the ocean floor for 16 hours to retrieve data, which then take four hours to analyze.

Searchers seem to be preparing for the possibility that an underwater drone scan may not yield debris from the plane immediately.
 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews

[Richteralan]

Malaysian airline might as well keep everyone in limbo so maybe the news outlet will finally forget this.

[Hum]

(CNN) -- The underwater drone scanning for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 finished its seventh mission Sunday, having covered about half its intended territory without finding any sign of the missing plane.

 

The Bluefin-21 drone started its eighth mission soon after the previous one ended Sunday morning, surveying the bottom of the southern Indian Ocean for traces of the Boeing 777.

[peacemf]

You do wonder if we're even looking in the right place! After all it's just based on calculations which are based on assumptions!

Plane could have done a second u turn as well

[Hum]

^ I have had a negative feeling of that 'search' area all along.

 

And I wonder, if that assumed flight path matches up with the supposed number of hours the plane was in flight.

[jasondefaoite]

You do wonder if we're even looking in the right place! After all it's just based on calculations which are based on assumptions!

Plane could have done a second u turn as well

 

While I don't disagree with you it could be the wrong area, it's not just based off calculations. They reported 4 pings received from the BB (the original of the 5th was not from a BB).

 

It's a combination of calculations + pings which made them feel they were in the right location.

 

But I honestly don't know if this plane will ever be found.

[Hum]

And how could some debris not wash up on Australia's west coast ... ?

 

Even with a controlled landing on the ocean, some parts would break off.

 

An "object of interest" in the search for missing Malaysian Airlines plane has been recovered on the coast of Western Australia, several hours drive south of Perth, officials said.

 

Australian Transport Safety Bureau Chief Commissioner Martin Dolan described the object as appearing to be sheet metal with rivets.

 

"It's sufficiently interesting for us to take a look at the photographs," he said. "We take all leads seriously."

 

The object was picked up near Augusta, some 300 kilometers (186 miles) south of Perth, a source with the Australian Defence Force told CNN.

 

The source also described the object as having rivets on one side with what appears to be a fiberglass coating.

 

When asked about the shape and scale of the object, the source described it as "kind of rectangular," but torn and misshapen.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/23/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[bonalste]

I am firmly of the belief that either the captain or the first officer killed the other crewmember, kept the door locked, depressurised for long enough to kill the passengers, made it as difficult as possible for investigators to find what happened (possibly the reason for his climb to 45,000ft - maybe attempting to simulate an unanticipated climb to coffin corner followed by stall a'la Air France) and committed suicide by crashing the aircraft. There is precedent, and with the kind of life insurance that pilots get, he may have a very good reason for wanting to hide what happened. This is me jumping to conclusions, of course, but that's the theory that makes the most sense to me. Other alternatives seem to have too many holes in them.

[Hum]

^ The Captain seemed suspicious to me too, but his friends say he would never steal a jet, or kill people.

 

Still, his wife had just left him.

 

The co-pilot was planning to get married.

 

The only thing that makes sense is that the jet was hijacked for profit, or to be used in a future attack -- and there was another qualified pilot on-board.

[Raa]

An "object of interest" in the search for missing Malaysian Airlines plane has been recovered on the coast of Western Australia, several hours drive south of Perth, officials said.

 

Confirmed not from the jet liner.

[ATLien_0]

There was something I saw on CNN earlier about a cyclone that had been going on in the same area the plane supposedly crashed. Any chance the plane could have flown right into the cyclone and broke the plane up into many parts? 

[Dot Matrix]

There was something I saw on CNN earlier about a cyclone that had been going on in the same area the plane supposedly crashed. Any chance the plane could have flown right into the cyclone and broke the plane up into many parts? 

Planes fly into storms daily. Storms have little effect on aircraft, but if they are big enough, the plane will divert.

[bonalste]

Planes fly into storms daily. Storms have little effect on aircraft, but if they are big enough, the plane will divert.

To clarify, a plane will never fly into a storm, let alone a cyclone, but using weather radar it can see and avoid storm cells. There is no reason, beyond bad piloting that an aircraft will enter a storm. Doing so is extremely dangerous and has a good potential to lead to a crash. However that's not what happened - the aircraft didn't crash but instead carried on flying for quite some time.

^ The Captain seemed suspicious to me too, but his friends say he would never steal a jet, or kill people.

Still, his wife had just left him.

The co-pilot was planning to get married.

The only thing that makes sense is that the jet was hijacked for profit, or to be used in a future attack -- and there was another qualified pilot on-board.

How many times have friends of people that go crazy and kill people said that he was a nice guy and would never do anything like that? In stressful jobs, people have nervous breakdowns, especially if your wife just left with the children. Even the nicest of people can snap. And planning a wedding is stressful! Damn is it stressful.

[Hum]

I saw on CNN today, the one expert says that this is now the right time for Jet debris to be washing up on the western and southern shores of Australia -- if the jet crashed where they believe.

 

He suggests that people should patrol the beaches for plane parts.

[ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm]

won't that be a bit hard if it just sunk to the bottom of the ocean?

[Hum]

^ The jet supposedly would have broken up to some extent, no matter how softly they landed.

 

There would be some pieces floating on top of the ocean, eventually washing up on shore.

 

That is, if the jet even crashed ....