Recommended Posts

But naturally it will happen one day..

 

Space has finite number of particles and they will some day run out of number of state in which they can be unique and they are bond to rearrange them self to a state which they previously were.. Distance between these two state is huge but they will some day do it..

that a flawed assumptions.

particles that dragged and united into a black hole won't ever revert to state where they were before became one with the black hole.

 

I believe in time travel but to do this you need to travel at the speed of Light which we don't have the technology. But if can reach the speed of light we will be able not just to travel in time but reach planets that are far far away.

Well, you are only correct in 1 particular sense.  Light speed travel is not the only way (theoretically) - In fact, there might be 1000 different ways, all easier than light speed travel - mainly because once you get close to the speed of light, you also approach infinite resistance.  (among a myriad of other issues making this not the ideal way)   .... so we think.....

All discussion aside, the audio in the OP is pretty detailed. It really sounds like the guy believes he went to the future. Of course, it was recorded in 2000 and he refers to events happening in 2002 and 2003 that we know didn't happen. The fact that hospitals haven't changed in 137 years and the fact that he needed 6 weeks of treatment leaves it feeling very suspicious. My only issue is that he had an answer for every question and seemed to genuinely believe that this all happened. He didn't come across as a liar though.

All discussion aside, the audio in the OP is pretty detailed. It really sounds like the guy believes he went to the future. Of course, it was recorded in 2000 and he refers to events happening in 2002 and 2003 that we know didn't happen. The fact that hospitals haven't changed in 137 years and the fact that he needed 6 weeks of treatment leaves it feeling very suspicious. My only issue is that he had an answer for every question and seemed to genuinely believe that this all happened. He didn't come across as a liar though.

Events after 2000 have been altered by him returning from the future, so it makes sense things won't be the same as in his story. The chance he did time travel is slim but still events not happening is not proof he didn't.

Events after 2000 have been altered by him returning from the future, so it makes sense things won't be the same as in his story. The chance he did time travel is slim but still events not happening is not proof he didn't.

That's pretty convenient.

No.  Some people theorize that if you could move faster than the speed of light, you would travel back in time, but I can't go for that.  Think about this.  There are objects in space that are millions of light years away.  When we look at those objects, what we see is what things looked like millions of years ago.  The reality is very different, the light just hasn't had time to get here yet for us to see it.  If we were somehow able to instantly teleport to those objects, we would be able to see "reality".  If we were to move faster than the speed of light in one direction, I don't think anything would happen except that we would be catching up with old rays of light, so time would "appear" to be moving backwards if we looked behind us because the light rays entering our eyes would be increasingly older light rays.  Basically, we would be viewing light in the reverse of how it is normally seen, so things would appear to be going backward in time.  However, that would just be a visual illusion, and I don't think, physically, it is possible to "actually" travel back in time and walk around and interact with a past version of the universe, as it is portrayed in the movies.

  • Like 2

No.  Some people theorize that if you could move faster than the speed of light, you would travel back in time, but I can't go for that.  Think about this.  There are objects in space that are millions of light years away.  When we look at those objects, what we see is what things looked like millions of years ago.  The reality is very different, the light just hasn't had time to get here yet for us to see it.  If we were somehow able to instantly teleport to those objects, we would be able to see "reality".  If we were to move faster than the speed of light in one direction, I don't think anything would happen except that we would be catching up with old rays of light, so time would "appear" to be moving backwards if we looked behind us because the light rays entering our eyes would be increasingly older light rays.  Basically, we would be viewing light in the reverse of how it is normally seen, so things would appear to be going backward in time.  However, that would just be a visual illusion, and I don't think, physically, it is possible to "actually" travel back in time and walk around and interact with a past version of the universe, as it is portrayed in the movies.

I was going to bring up the objects in space in an upcoming post, but you saved me the trouble. Thank you.

Considering time flows differently in space, and at close to the speed of light. It's not fixed like we're use to / experience on earth.

Another question would be is we make the tech is it true time travel or hopping to an alternate reality that makes it feel like we time traveled if alteration accrued. 

I've always followed the Red Queen's advice:

"I can't believe that!" said Alice.
"Can't you?" the Queen said in a pitying tone. "Try again: draw a long breath, and shut your eyes."
Alice laughed. "There's no use trying," she said: "one can't believe impossible things."
"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

 

The "laws" of physics aren't laws at all. They are merely hypotheses. Even where specific relationships have been shown to obtain mathematically, they could merely be local effects. And when you start to investigate the Nature of Reality, a whole new universe opens up, involving consciousness and energy.

As an individual with a PhD in Physic the only answer on my mind is, "Hell No."

Interesting. Care to elaborate? Personally I think that black holes are the closest that we'll get to time travel, but I cannot vouch for the idea that it will let us go backwards or forwards on ourselves in a true time traveling sense.

It was said that if you were to travel at the speed of light (which Hawking and many other say isn't possible due to radiation that would kill you and blow up your ship the instant you hit the speed). That the entire universe would seem to happen in a split second of your "time", there one moment, gone in the blink of an eye.

 

You also apparently wouldn't be able to see light particles that you're traveling past if you were going faster than the speed of light, that's apparently a problem with sci-fi movies and TV shows not being "realistic".

 

The opposite is said to happen when you're in a black hole, being able to see anything that has or will enter the horizon of it.

If time travel was possible in the future, don't you think people would return to the past to hurry up the discovery of it?

 

There are many reasons that may not work, one of them being the paradox solution, you going back in time and causing the changing of when time travel occurs will cause you to not be the one to do it at the time you originally came back and so it cancels out.

 

The other reasons being that what if Time really is tied to other dimensions other than just the 3 dimensions of space and "time travel" involves jumping into other universes or other bizarre circumstances, maybe it's not possible to come back to a point in time in your own universe? What if the universe diverges from your own with different choices being made, the alternate universe theories etc?

If time travel was possible in the future, don't you think people would return to the past to hurry up the discovery of it?

He didn't seem to care about it:

TimeTravelingHipster.jpg

:p

Seriously though, I think Alera is right in that it would have the potential to create a paradox. Unless you remove time travel and instead go with alternate universes. But then you're not messing with your direct timeline, you're messing with a timeline that could have been (for us.)

He didn't seem to care about it:

TimeTravelingHipster.jpg

:p

Seriously though, I think Alera is right in that it would have the potential to create a paradox. Unless you remove time travel and instead go with alternate universes. But then you're not messing with your direct timeline, you're messing with a timeline that could have been (for us.)

 

Fake picture huh? xD It'd be awesome if that was real!

There are many reasons that may not work, one of them being the paradox solution, you going back in time and causing the changing of when time travel occurs will cause you to not be the one to do it at the time you originally came back and so it cancels out.

 

The other reasons being that what if Time really is tied to other dimensions other than just the 3 dimensions of space and "time travel" involves jumping into other universes or other bizarre circumstances, maybe it's not possible to come back to a point in time in your own universe? What if the universe diverges from your own with different choices being made, the alternate universe theories etc?

Cancels out that YOU are not the one that returned to the past, but not that SOME one will. And it doesn't matter who's that person, as long as one returns to the past.

 

In that case, that's not time traveling.

Cancels out that YOU are not the one that returned to the past, but not that SOME one will. And it doesn't matter who's that person, as long as one returns to the past.

 

In that case, that's not time traveling.

 

But if you or someone from the future is not the one to do it, then how did you or they give those in the past the details to make the time machine? :p How do you stop the paradox? You'd have to ensure there was an endless loop if that was the case...

Who said anything about "me" returning to the past to give that information? Doesn't matter who will do it, as long as the information that speeds up the process of discovery will be transferred.

 

The point I'm trying to make is, if somebody at point A in time; the point that someone in the future has the information to make time travel work, then sends that information back either on it's own or with someone, then tries to make a time travel device in the past, that will change the past because time travel has already been invented, meaning that the future time travelers would have no reason to send anything into the past as it's already been done, which means nobody or nothing travels back.

 

Basically, the chain of events that made point A what it was will never happen, so the person or information that traveled from point A to point B will also never occur, cancelling the whole thing out.

 

EDIT: I may have to draw a diagram to make it easier to understand. xD

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • I did think about a Echo show once and it would be useful to see what my cameras see. But my brother got one and I changed my mind. Adverts and not really worth the price just to see my cameras. I have a load of dots and a Echo Gen 4, they will do.
    • I asking where you are from or live, because if you don't live in the U.K, why are you so bothered? That is another reason I voted out, E.U and people poking their noses in where they should not be. Sadly we still have it, Trump, and his cronies. Putin as well and no doubt others. It makes no difference what we believe, if we made the right choice or not, we are out. As I said to someone when the news first broke we have voted out, we just need to make the best of it. I have no problems with closer ties to the E.U, we still need to trade. Just don't want to be in their club.
    • So you think I voted out because i am anti-immigrant. I am fed up with those that come over and think that we owe them something. The ones that are at the moment coming over from France where they are already in a safe country because they think and no doubt will get everything chucked at them. While people who were born and bred here get very little. I have nothing against as i have said before those that come here and work. In fact I know full well that our NHS would struggle without them. I do have a problem with those that come over here and try to push their religion and their way of life onto us. My reasons for voting out was because of what the E.U is and is also becoming. I did not agree with Freedom of movement, not because I don't want people over here, but because people need to be checked before being allowed to cross borders and that goes both ways. But my main thing was because the E.U is becoming if not already a united states of Europe. The only reason countries like Poland and Romania joined was because they had no money. When my partner left Poland, she had nothing, Poland had nothing, that is why she left. Wanted to learn something and earn a living. The E.U would have us back according to Michel Barnier. https://www.euronews.com/my-eu...ator-barnier-tells-euronews Why are you so scared to say what country you are in?
    • I wonder what that line really meant...
    • draw.io Desktop 30.2.6 by Razvan Serea draw.io desktop is a downloadable security-first diagramming application that runs on Windows, MacOS and Linux. Creating diagrams in the desktop app doesn’t need an internet connection. This is useful when you are disconnected or when you must create diagrams in a highly secure environment, where data protection is of the utmost importance. When you use the draw.io desktop app, your diagrams will be stored on your local device. Because this is a stand-alone application, also designed to run offline, there are no interfaces to cloud storage platforms available. Of course, you can still store your diagrams in folders that are synchronised to your cloud storage if you wish. Easy-to-use diagram editor The draw.io apps work just like the office and drawing tools you are used to using. Drag and drop shapes from the shape libraries and drag to draw connectors between them. Drag connectors to add waypoints and set a precise shape and position, or let them reroute automatically. Double click and start typing to add a label to anything. Create tables and swimlane flows with a familiar tool. Style shapes and connectors with customisable palettes, sketch options, fonts and text formatting tools. Search for shapes, including in open-source icon libraries. Use our vast libraries of shapes and templates, organised into logical categories, to create a range of diagrams and infographics. Generate diagrams from text descriptions using our smart templates. Diagram faster with keyboard shortcuts. draw.io Desktop 30.2.6 changelog: Uses electron 42.5.0 #2452 Updates to draw.io core 30.2.6. Download: draw.io 64-bit | Standalone (Open Source) Download: draw.io 32-bit | ARM64 | ARM64 Standalone Links: draw.io Home Page | Project page @GitHub | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Month Later
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Woland13 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Woland13 earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      498
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      207
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      145
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      74
    5. 5
      FloatingFatMan
      69
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!