win10 What are your biggest Windows 10 bugbears?

[Dot Matrix]

My last post just disappeared?

[adrynalyne]

2 minutes ago, Dot Matrix said:

My last post just disappeared?

So did mine. 

[Dot Matrix]

5 minutes ago, adrynalyne said:

So did mine. 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[adrynalyne]

1 minute ago, Dot Matrix said:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Overzealous moderator perhaps? The post I quoted was also nuked.

[zhangm Supervisor]

1 minute ago, adrynalyne said:

Overzealous moderator perhaps? The post I quoted was also nuked.

It was a spammer, post was removed along with your replies that quoted it.

[Dot Matrix]

14 minutes ago, zhangm said:

It was a spammer, post was removed along with your replies that quoted it.

Ah OK, thought it was a bug.

[zhangm Supervisor]

Moving back on topic, one thing that I've been having issues with is display scaling when moving apps between displays that are scaled at 200% and 100%. It seems that much discombobulation occurs with window and element scaling when I'm connected to my external display via miniDP and have to move windows across displays. It is disappointing to see Modern apps being afflicted by this issue, since thus far, I've been very pleased with how they handle scaling on a high resolution display.

[blank]

My main annoyance with Windows 10 is the only one I ever had, and it still remains, which is the File associations not sticking.

Meaning a few times a month i have to select the default program for opening certain file types.

 

i think installing another program that is able to handle these file types triggers it, im not sure, but its annoying.

 

For example: having to tell it to open each video type in VLC player, over and over again.

[+Warwagon MVC]

1) Have "This PC" shown by default when clicking the explorer icon on the bottom. I'm aware the default be behavior can be changed but in my opinion it was a stupid change.

 

2) Turn on "Display delete confirmation dialog" by default. This one is ranks high on the "Stupid change" meter. If a user were to select 1 or 100 files and accidentally press delete, with the default configuration of Windows 8 and 10 the files would be INSTANTLY moved to the trash. The User would not be asked "Are you sure you want to delete 100" files? I'm aware you can move them back out of the trash but it's stupid none the less, still can't wrap my head around that change.

 

3)  Put an icon for the control panel in the start menu. Yes, you can search for it. I'm aware of that. But you would be surprised how many people are not aware of that. Yes there is a giant "search box" in the bottom left, but some people wouldn't think for searching for it. Until the control panel is retired and all control panel options are moved to settings, keep an icon around for it.

 

4) "Get updates from Microsoft, and get updates and send updates to." .. Some people like my parents have limited Bandwidth. It's 100 Gigs per month, but it's still a limit. Between Netflix and other stuff, they come up right next to their limit every month. I think if Microsoft wants to enable "PC's on my local network, and PC"s on the Internet" they need to first ask the user if they have unlimited bandwidth and not just assume.

 

5) I'm still really annoyed that they disabled the F8 key in 8 and 10. They said it's because you can't press F8 Fast enough, which is a load of bull ######. Because when you enable Legacy boot, I was able to Trigger the Safe mode menu Each and every time I tried.

 

I had a customer call me last night, regarding his Windows 8 laptop computer. It would bluescreen and then try to preform automatic repair and then automatically restart automatically and blue screen again. It did this over and over. I would have liked to get him to the recovery menu were he could do a system restore, or maybe try safe mode.

 

If this was a Windows 7 laptop, I would have had him press F8 ... select Safe mode first to see if that would boot. If it doesn't I would then do F8 and this time Select "Repair this computer" which would have taken him right into the recovery, where he could try to do a system restore" .. In my personal opinion 8 and 10 is a step backward.

 

Everyone always says ...we don't need an F8, if Windows doesn't start correctly 3 times it automatically takes you to that menu. We Obviously this time it didn't and because it there was nothing I could do over the phone to help him. Microsoft If you are listening (yes I've submitted Feed back) ... bring Back F8. Windows can still do all it's automatic repairs, but give us the option to also use F8 .

 

6) Allow Cortona to be used without a Microsoft Account. Obviously Cortona would be unable to respond to calender and other questions. At that point it would asks you to sign into a Microsoft. But for all other questions you really don't need one.

 

 

[Mando]

ive given up with the new start menu, tried classic shell and aint going back. I've resisted until recently, but the live tiles etc are annoying as are the listed apps. classic shell set as black metro, opaque with programs in a menu and apps in a sub-menu, there MS thats how you should do it. 

Edited December 30, 2015 by Mando

[+Warwagon MVC]

10 minutes ago, Mando said:

ive given up with the new start menu, tried classic shell and aint going back. I've resisted until recently, but the live tiles etc are annoying as are the listed apps. classic shell set as black metro, opaque with programs in a menu and apps in a sub-menu, there MS thats how you should do it. 

Agreed. It looks nice.

[+John. Subscriber¹]

For me it's the control panel, and every time you delve into options. It's a nice Windows 10 front end, but as soon as you need to get to any settings that make a difference, you're straight back into Windows 7 control panel, including layout and icons, and sometimes even earlier. 

 

It's very jarring

[MotorMouth]

On 30/12/2015 at 4:07 AM, Mando said:

ive given up with the new start menu, tried classic shell and aint going back. I've resisted until recently, but the live tiles etc are annoying as are the listed apps. classic shell set as black metro, opaque with programs in a menu and apps in a sub-menu, there MS thats how you should do it. 

Wow! I expected to see a power-user's take on what a great Start Menu should be. Instead I see a Start Menu that looks like the one on my 85 year-old Dad's laptop. How many icons can you pin to that useless looking thing? And how does "All Apps/Programs" display in that teeny-weeny window?

 

If you don't like Live Tiles, why didn't you just unpin them? I do agree that the All Apps list is pretty bad, it is far too much like VIsta/Win7's Start Menu. Thank Dog I can pin as many things as I want to.

[francescob]

Some save file dialogs sometimes refuse to work. An easy to reproduce example: open Notepad++, open a file somewhere that isn't on your desktop, open the save file dialog, press ALT+UP arrow until you reach the desktop and then try to save.

[Mando]

10 hours ago, MotorMouth said:

Wow! I expected to see a power-user's take on what a great Start Menu should be. Instead I see a Start Menu that looks like the one on my 85 year-old Dad's laptop. How many icons can you pin to that useless looking thing? And how does "All Apps/Programs" display in that teeny-weeny window?

 

If you don't like Live Tiles, why didn't you just unpin them? I do agree that the All Apps list is pretty bad, it is far too much like VIsta/Win7's Start Menu. Thank Dog I can pin as many things as I want to.

I dont pin any icons mate thats what Win +r is for  Apps have their own menu, i just cant seem to remove the placeholder for cortana now ive removed that also.

 

 

 

or win7 type

 

Its just a general games rig this one, at work i use powershell and Win& R more than i ever access the start menu tbvh

Edited January 6, 2016 by Mando

[adrynalyne]

1 hour ago, Mando said:

I dont pin any icons mate thats what Win +r is for  Apps have their own menu, i just cant seem to remove the placeholder for cortana now ive removed that also.

 

 

 

or win7 type

 

Its just a general games rig this one, at work i use powershell and Win& R more than i ever access the start menu tbvh

Win+r is only useful if you know the precise executable name and its in the path. 

[Mando]

1 hour ago, adrynalyne said:

Win+r is only useful if you know the precise executable name and its in the path. 

Yep, and for me thats fine on this box.  for items i use daily, i have them on task bar.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Mando

[MotorMouth]

1 hour ago, Mando said:

Yep, and for me thats fine on this box.  for items i use daily, i have them on task bar.

That's nice for some of us but I'd need to pin around 20 things to my taskbar to cover all my daily needs, from work to my hobbies, which is completely unmanageable. It is precisely why I hated the Vista/Win7 Start Menu.

 

The flyout in the first image is similar to small tiles in Windows 8/10, except it uses space far less efficiently, and the second one just hides everything from you inside folders, something Windows 8 liberated us from, so why bother? Worse, you'd need to remember whether something was an app or not, which is no longer obvious in W10 and will one day be a meaningless distinction. e.g. I would not have gone looking for Edge in Apps, it looks and feels like a desktop application to me.

[Kierax2016]

I have had a Notepad bug on 10565 since install.  Basically I open explorer, go to a folder with a Notepad file inside, it double click the notepad file and then it closes to desktop, if I repeat the process it will load the notepad file just fine.

 

 

[Mando]

On 1/6/2016 at 11:25 PM, MotorMouth said:

That's nice for some of us but I'd need to pin around 20 things to my taskbar to cover all my daily needs, from work to my hobbies, which is completely unmanageable. It is precisely why I hated the Vista/Win7 Start Menu.

 

The flyout in the first image is similar to small tiles in Windows 8/10, except it uses space far less efficiently, and the second one just hides everything from you inside folders, something Windows 8 liberated us from, so why bother? Worse, you'd need to remember whether something was an app or not, which is no longer obvious in W10 and will one day be a meaningless distinction. e.g. I would not have gone looking for Edge in Apps, it looks and feels like a desktop application to me.

yep i use this machine for a slim number of things, edge i have pinned to the task bar.

[Michael Scrip]

On 12/30/2015 at 0:07 PM, Mando said:

ive given up with the new start menu, tried classic shell and aint going back. I've resisted until recently, but the live tiles etc are annoying as are the listed apps. classic shell set as black metro, opaque with programs in a menu and apps in a sub-menu, there MS thats how you should do it. 

Here's my Classic Shell start menu.  I simply use it as an app launcher. I never liked having every app I use regularly occupying space in my taskbar all the time.   But the great thing about Windows is that we can make it work the way WE want it to

 

[MotorMouth]

That still uses space far less efficiently than Windows 10 does, simply because of the redundant labels on everything. That's what I hate about Win10 Mobile - it's full of things with icons and labels, where Metro dropped icons for pure typography. You only need one or the other, not both. The only reason I can see for you to be using this is fear of change and the comfort of the familiar.

 

As you can see from my screenshot, I have no Live Tiles at all and all but two of my tiles are of the small variety. I've also pinned tiles for groups within Control Panel - Display and System - which makes getting to those things even easier. I've even pinned Resource Monitor so I don't have to go looking for it in Task Manager. And it is not just one endless list, it is grouped functionally, using patterns that help me navigate easily to the thing I need. Your alternatives do absolutely none of that.

[MorganX]

On ‎12‎/‎30‎/‎2015 at 9:10 AM, warwagon said:

3)  Put an icon for the control panel in the start menu. Yes, you can search for it. I'm aware of that. But you would be surprised how many people are not aware of that. Yes there is a giant "search box" in the bottom left, but some people wouldn't think for searching for it. Until the control panel is retired and all control panel options are moved to settings, keep an icon around for it.

 

I actually prefer right-clicking the Start icon on the taskbar for not only control panel, but most common control applets. Probably easier to learn for those who don't know how to search.

[NinjaGinger]

Account verification is fun for me. When it asks me to complete the email, I know its right { hell, its my name }. Still manages to say its wrong?

[Thomas the Tank Engine]

On ‎2015‎-‎12‎-‎30 at 10:07 AM, Mando said:

ive given up with the new start menu, tried classic shell and aint going back. I've resisted until recently, but the live tiles etc are annoying as are the listed apps. classic shell set as black metro, opaque with programs in a menu and apps in a sub-menu, there MS thats how you should do it. 

 

I use StartIsBack++, I bought StartIsBack after I got Win8 when it was around CAD$70, the good thing is that the key seems to be lifetime because it activated SiB++.  I did go back to Win7 after having issues with Win8, and only recently tried Win10 a second time, but I may just end up putting Linux Mint or Qubes on this laptop and get rid of Win10.