PoultryTumor Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) "Speedy" how? All the benchmarks I've seen point to it being almost exactly the same as Windows 8, as in a few percent faster in some benchmarks and the same in others. It certainly doesn't feel any faster to me. Apps and programs opening, boot up time, almost anything I can think of is faster for me. Not worlds faster in all areas but noticeable enough that I feel confident in saying it at all. A little boost here and there has an apparent cumulative effect. I'm sure on good hardware the differences are negligible. On my so-so desktop though everything seems snappier. Edited August 13, 2015 by PoultryTumor Word Salad Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596973996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Apps and programs opening, boot up time, almost anything I can think of is faster for me. Not worlds faster in all areas but noticeable enough that I feel confident in saying it at all. A little boost here and there has a cumulative. I'm sure on good hardware the differences are negligible. On my so-so desktop though everything seems snappier. I've a feeling those who are complaining about performance haven't done a clean installation and are probably using 8.1 drivers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auditor Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Dude. I think my install is corrupted. I'll call MS to have it removed. You must be using old build. I was using using RTM with a clean install and it is not there. Now you can feel super cool about yourself for having picture viewer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachan64 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Sleep and Shutdown are way faster than Windows 8.1. Of course, I don't have much installed at the moment and not much start up items & process running in the background. Apart from that, I've been running into mouse cursor slides when I'm not even touching it, but is due to my faulty mouse not Windows 10 related. Also page not found bug when opening classic control panel, system properties etc But is due to a program I installed which caused this bug. But apart from those minor issue, everything here is working find so far. No driver issues or any other issues that others may have. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) You must be using old build. I was using using RTM with a clean install and it is not there. Now you can feel super cool about yourself for having picture viewer. I already posted that it shows on my Insider machine, but here is a second one, that comes from my laptop that has a clean retail install of Windows 10 Pro on it. It has never been upgraded. I formatted and installed from a flash drive using a real, retail key. Not sure what to tell you. Its also on my Enterprise install and my daughter's Home install. kachan64 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachan64 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I have pro as well, but mine showing the normal new photos app. How did u guys do the upgrade? Win 7 > Win 10 Win 8.1 > Win 10 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachan64 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I've a feeling those who are complaining about performance haven't done a clean installation and are probably using 8.1 drivers. Microsoft has updated it's drivers even if you're upgrading from Windows 7/8.1. I checked with Driver Booster and didn't prompt me to update any driver apart from one (sound) which is newly released. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I have pro as well, but mine showing the normal new photos app. How did u guys do the upgrade? Win 7 > Win 10 Win 8.1 > Win 10 You don't have this additional menu? This is my upgraded Enterprise install. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Microsoft has updated it's drivers even if you're upgrading from Windows 7/8.1. I checked with Driver Booster and didn't prompt me to update any driver apart from one (sound) which is newly released. Some haven't. For example, I had an Intel IO driver and Virtual Buttons driver that were not available on Windows Update. The OEM had updated to Windows 10 drivers though. So some more obscure stuff doesn't show up unfortunately. kachan64 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachan64 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 You don't have this additional menu? This is my upgraded Enterprise install. Yes I do. But some people are complaining that their photos app still uses Windows 8.1 icons or messed up Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted August 13, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted August 13, 2015 That is really weird. More inconsistencies in MS's design language. My upgrade was 8.1->10 release Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachan64 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Some haven't. For example, I had an Intel IO driver and Virtual Buttons driver that were not available on Windows Update. The OEM had updated to Windows 10 drivers though. So some more obscure stuff doesn't show up unfortunately. Yeah true that. That is really weird. More inconsistencies in MS's design language. My upgrade was 8.1->10 release K, dono. Must be happening to some computers. But I've got prompted to download a Windows Update yesterday Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Yes I do. But some people are complaining that their photos app still uses Windows 8.1 icons or messed up Interesting. For me: It is blue on Enterprise upgrade. It uses the old 8.1 Photos icon on clean Pro. It is blue on the Insider version I have too. Maybe I haven't updated my apps... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachan64 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Depends on what accent color you choose for your Windows frame, taskbar etc. So the icon of the photo app blends into that color. So it's not a bug, it's a feature. For the Windows 8.1 icon bug, it's really weird. adrynalyne and Ian W 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Actually, looking at it, I think its the different monitor outputting slightly different colors in my case. I believe they are the same. Depends on what accent color you choose for your Windows frame, taskbar etc. So the icon of the photo app blends into that color. So it's not a bug, it's a feature. For the Windows 8.1 icon bug, it's really weird. Ahhh, mystery solved, for me anyway kachan64 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdLuX Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) You are not wrong in saying it doesn't feel like a massive update. With the whole "Windows 10 because it is such a huge change" it feels kind of meh. I've read a lot of reviews about W10 and I'm wondering about the sometimes almost hysterical enthusiasm it has caused. Maybe to compensate for the often unfair harshness W8(1) got treated with? I think it's a bit strange, considering the issues W10 (still) has, like the unfinishedness and the imho rather blatant breach of privacy it suffers from. I think W10 is part of a worrying trend of developing software that wants to become smarter than its user (which is of course true in case of many phone/tablet/pc owners) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeMaster Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm not on an upgraded install. Note the checkbox. Nope, I don’t see it listed on this clean install. You probably used something like Winaero Tweaker to restore it: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdLuX Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) You must be using old build. I was using using RTM with a clean install and it is not there. Now you can feel super cool about yourself for having picture viewer. I've checked my own final insider W10 build, and the right click menu does indeed still give me the opportunity to choose Windows Photo Viewer. But even if this weren't the case I really don't understand what's all the fuzz about. You are still completely free to choose whatever 3d party picture viewer you want and associate whichever file type you want with it. I consider Windows Photo Viewer to be a legacy application. It wouldn't surprise me if it will be completely replaced and removed from any future updates. Get used to it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596974830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Nope, I don’t see it listed on this clean install. You probably used something like Winaero Tweaker to restore it: Winaero tweaker, LMAO. Is this how you justify differences, by making things up that I have supposedly done? I've checked my own final insider W10 build, and the right click menu does indeed still give me the opportunity to choose Windows Photo Viewer. But even if this weren't the case I really don't understand what's all the fuzz about. You are still completely free to choose whatever 3d party picture viewer you want and associate whichever file type you want with it. I consider Windows Photo Viewer to be a legacy application. It wouldn't surprise me if it will be completely replaced and removed from any future updates. Get used to it. Choice is hard Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596975134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeMaster Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Winaero tweaker, LMAO. Is this how you justify differences, by making things up that I have supposedly done? OK then, I can only assume that you upgraded from Windows 7 or 8, because Windows Photo Viewer is definitely not in clean installs of Windows 10 RTM. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596975208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 OK then, I can only assume that you upgraded from Windows 7 or 8, because Windows Photo Viewer is definitely not in clean installs of Windows 10 RTM. Well you assumed incorrectly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596975248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeMaster Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Well you assumed incorrectly. Then you upgraded from an Insider Preview build. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596975298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Then you upgraded from an Insider Preview build. Moving goalposts. The favorite past time of Neowinians. It must be this. Later or this Later or, this! As I said, it was not upgraded from a previous version of Windows. I made it clear it was an Insider build from the get-go. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596975308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeMaster Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Moving goalposts. The favorite past time of Neowinians. It must be this. Later or this Later or, this! As I said, it was not upgraded from a previous version of Windows. I made it clear it was an Insider build from the get-go. Alright, alright, no need to get annoyed. I was just telling you that most people won't have the Windows Photo Viewer. You need to relax more. Perhaps you should check the Random Picture Thread. Ian W 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596975350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted August 13, 2015 Veteran Share Posted August 13, 2015 Alright guys, cut it out. Chances are you'll have the option for Windows Photo Viewer if you upgraded from Windows 7/8/8.1. If not, then chances are you won't have it and you'll need to use a registry tweak to restore it (or use WinaeroTweaker). kachan64 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1267918-how-do-you-like-windows-10/page/5/#findComment-596975898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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