[Official] Star Trek: Discovery Thread

[Steven P. Administrators]

whooo!

 

 

Also, yeah the finale was a bit cheesy in parts but I am glad that the Klingon storyline has come to a closure.

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

18 hours ago, patseguin said:

Very rushed and a lot didn't make any sense. 

I thought it was pretty straightforward. What did you not understand if you don't mind me asking?

 

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To me, the season ended with a propaganda of sex and drugs.

 

[patseguin Global Moderator]

1 hour ago, Mirumir said:

I thought it was pretty straightforward. What did you not understand if you don't mind me asking?

 

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To me, the season ended with a propaganda of sex and drugs.

 

I guess my wording wasn't right. I felt it was rushed and over simplified. They seemed to have run out of ideas and just ended it without much creativity. For instance, Michael confronts Georgiou and she puts up a little bit of a fight and then goes, Ok here's my phaser you win.

[Louisifer]

21 minutes ago, patseguin said:

I guess my wording wasn't right. I felt it was rushed and over simplified. They seemed to have run out of ideas and just ended it without much creativity. For instance, Michael confronts Georgiou and she puts up a little bit of a fight and then goes, Ok here's my phaser you win.

Can probably blame that on them replacing the showrunner who was preoccupied with American Gods, the show was originally 13 episodes and I'm guessing the new guy had a different idea for season 2 so they quickly concluded it.  

[patseguin Global Moderator]

1 hour ago, Louisifer said:

Can probably blame that on them replacing the showrunner who was preoccupied with American Gods, the show was originally 13 episodes and I'm guessing the new guy had a different idea for season 2 so they quickly concluded it.  

Yeah. TO be honest, I really loved every second of this series up until the season finale. I still wish they would have gone with the original anthology idea as well. Would have been nice to see different time periods and crews each season. Still though, with the appearance of the Enterprise, I think they are setting up a really cool second season.

[atcapistrano]

2 hours ago, Louisifer said:

Can probably blame that on them replacing the showrunner who was preoccupied with American Gods, the show was originally 13 episodes and I'm guessing the new guy had a different idea for season 2 so they quickly concluded it.  

if original guy had a 13-episode plan, quickly concluded does not make sense since season 1 had 15 episodes... or did I miss something?

[Louisifer]

31 minutes ago, atcapistrano said:

if original guy had a 13-episode plan, quickly concluded does not make sense since season 1 had 15 episodes... or did I miss something?

New guy added 2 episodes to conclude the current story (13+2). That way he didn't need to waste season 2 wrapping up the old story to make way for his own story. The new guy seems to be more invested and is already working on season 3's story. 

[HawkMan]

5 hours ago, patseguin said:

 I still wish they would have gone with the original anthology idea as well. Would have been nice to see different time periods and crews each season. 

 

New hero ship CGI every season, new sets every season, new uniforms and so on. that was just not realistic today.  these are expensive sows to start with. their one redeeming factor is that they get cheaper every year. by reusing old assets.

[Skiver Veteran]

I was a little disappointed with that ending, it felt like we could have easily had another 1 or 2 episodes out of it. the end of the war felt a little oversimplified, the way the Klingons were so independent of each other to just fall in line so easily didn't feel believable.

 

I also felt a little off with that final scene, the Enterprise is broadcasting a priority one distress call but appears to have zero damage?

[Steven P. Administrators]

45 minutes ago, Skiver said:

I was a little disappointed with that ending, it felt like we could have easily had another 1 or 2 episodes out of it. the end of the war felt a little oversimplified, the way the Klingons were so independent of each other to just fall in line so easily didn't feel believable.

 

I also felt a little off with that final scene, the Enterprise is broadcasting a priority one distress call but appears to have zero damage?

It absolutely felt rushed, I thought Michaels speech near the end was cheesy too, the part where it seemed like she was being interrupted by medals and honors being given out was just poor editing imo.

[Skiver Veteran]

2 minutes ago, Steven P. said:

It absolutely felt rushed, I thought Michaels speech near the end was cheesy too, the part where it seemed like she was being interrupted by medals and honors being given out was just poor editing imo.

Agreed, I'm sure she also tried to use herself as an example of never getting second chances but moving forwards anyway. She was at a massive UFP ceremony where she'd earnt her way back into Starfleet after being given a life sentence, I'm not sure second chances get any bigger than this one.

[atcapistrano]

2 hours ago, Skiver said:

I was a little disappointed with that ending, it felt like we could have easily had another 1 or 2 episodes out of it. the end of the war felt a little oversimplified, the way the Klingons were so independent of each other to just fall in line so easily didn't feel believable.

 

I also felt a little off with that final scene, the Enterprise is broadcasting a priority one distress call but appears to have zero damage?

maybe the writers are adding another mirror universe story line.... if i were the producer/director/writer, i'd just produce another show based on the mirror universe focusing on the novels written by William Shatner (The Ashes of Eden, The Return, Avenger. Spectre, Dark Victory, Preserver)

[Dot Matrix]

On 2/11/2018 at 10:16 PM, patseguin said:

I thought the finale was the weakest episode of the season. Very rushed and a lot didn't make any sense. They more than made up for it though with the Enterprise showing up as a cliffhanger. It was sending a level one distress call though, so something ain't right!

I skipped half of it, because I'm so over that Tyler/Michael drama arc. Blah blah blah... I'm so tired of having to skip most of the episode because that's the only thing they're focused on. I thought there was a war going on?

[Dysphoria]

It wasnt that bad... considering that every straight human male character turned out to be a weirdo, murderer or a psychopath...

This show sure takes that gender equality topic to a next level

 

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Spoiler: Cant wait for next season to see how Michael, a woman with a man's name, gets to save Captain Pike from the USS Enterprise... as even the great captain of USS Enterprise is not capable of saving his ship without the help of a gender neutral female Michael

 

[Dysphoria]

4 hours ago, Steven P. said:

It absolutely felt rushed, I thought Michaels speech near the end was cheesy too, the part where it seemed like she was being interrupted by medals and honors being given out was just poor editing imo.

Poor editing is an understatement...

[Pork Chopper]

Didn't Mr. Spock serve with Capt. Pike  in the episode 'The Menagerie' when Jeffery Hunter was slated for the title role but backed out and Shatner took over?

[LOC Veteran]

Spock did serve with Pike yes, but whether he's on board the Enterprise now is unknown. Guess we'll have to see how far down the Trek canon rabbit hole they decide to go with things. Also, Discovery takes place in what, 2255 or something, which is like 3  years or so after the Enterprise was first commissioned I think. They could easily say Spock was science officer the entire time, or make it a down the road thing.

[FloatingFatMan]

On 13/02/2018 at 12:52 PM, Skiver said:

I was a little disappointed with that ending, it felt like we could have easily had another 1 or 2 episodes out of it. the end of the war felt a little oversimplified, the way the Klingons were so independent of each other to just fall in line so easily didn't feel believable.

 

I also felt a little off with that final scene, the Enterprise is broadcasting a priority one distress call but appears to have zero damage?

It was a classic "Deus ex machina", something Trek has long been known for when they let a story line go on too long. They've -always- rushed the conclusion in at the last minute, and it's always annoyed the hell out of me...

[FloatingFatMan]

On 14/02/2018 at 8:16 PM, LOC said:

Spock did serve with Pike yes, but whether he's on board the Enterprise now is unknown. Guess we'll have to see how far down the Trek canon rabbit hole they decide to go with things. Also, Discovery takes place in what, 2255 or something, which is like 3  years or so after the Enterprise was first commissioned I think. They could easily say Spock was science officer the entire time, or make it a down the road thing.

Remember guys, whilst officially ST:D is meant to be set in the prime timeline, I feel it shares a lot more in common with the Kelvin one... Expect differences between what we know happened in prime and what we'll see in ST:D.

[margrave]

Loved it, want more.

[LOC Veteran]

2 hours ago, FloatingFatMan said:

Remember guys, whilst officially ST:D is meant to be set in the prime timeline, I feel it shares a lot more in common with the Kelvin one... Expect differences between what we know happened in prime and what we'll see in ST:D.

Yes, this is true. And the producers have said as much several times. Still, they've also said many times now that the show will fit in with canon perfectly by the time they get to Kirk's time period. So, expectations I guess?

[Morisato]

Surprised they didn't just execute that disgraced female Klingon that got captured and imprisoned on the Discovery. Their very being and numerous times mentioned throughout the season was to destroy the Federation at all costs whether they died or not then suddenly just gave up and pulled back right at Earth's doorsteps? Give me a break. Personally the Federation should've just ended right there after Michael went MLK on the whole 'that's not who we are even when we're on the brink of destruction' but had a chance to strike a devastating blow to the Klingon homeworld.

[Yogurth]

Very questionable Qo'nos resolution. I mean L'Rell has a pad and the entire Klingon Empire bows...lazy and unconvincing writing. Good second part of the season, really disappointing last episode.

[FloatingFatMan]

On 18/02/2018 at 8:30 AM, Yogurth said:

Very questionable Qo'nos resolution. I mean L'Rell has a pad and the entire Klingon Empire bows...lazy and unconvincing writing. Good second part of the season, really disappointing last episode.

TNG era Klingons would have just ripped the pad from her hands and shoved a bath'leth down her throat...

[George P Global Moderator]

On 2/18/2018 at 2:39 AM, LOC said:

Yes, this is true. And the producers have said as much several times. Still, they've also said many times now that the show will fit in with canon perfectly by the time they get to Kirk's time period. So, expectations I guess?

Never put it past Trek to use the time travel plot device to make things match up.