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Emn1ty
42 minutes ago, George P said:

I think it fits with the open world nature of the game from the looks of it, they're going pretty vertical with the layouts.  Having said that though, I think the grappling hook is just one thing you might be able to equip and use if you want.  In the demo when he opens the map for a bit, and we see how big that part of the world is, there's a Upgrades tab at the top.  I think the grappling hook and other stuff, like weapons, and maybe even your armor to, will be upgradable.  This adds a little RPG bits into the now open world nature of Halo.

I guess I'm just not a fan of RPG elements in my shooters. Halo is no exception, and I fear a lot of the game will be built to show off the grappling hook if it's not swappable for other items.

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33 minutes ago, Emn1ty said:

I guess I'm just not a fan of RPG elements in my shooters. Halo is no exception, and I fear a lot of the game will be built to show off the grappling hook if it's not swappable for other items.

I'll take anything that gives me more gameplay and not something short like 6hrs.   If going a bit open world means I get a 20hr playthrough, or more, then I'll shell out the money quick.

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Windows Central has a post up talking about Halo Infinite and it's gfx etc.

 

Source.

 

Basically like other posts are saying, it's a older build from around the end of 2019, doesn't have ray tracing or other XSX bits added yet.   Guess we'll see 5 or so months from now, whenever this comes out, how it looks.  Visuals are always tweaked towards the end, and just adding ray tracing makes a big difference to games out right now.  Heck, anyone who's looked a metro exodus should check out the difference with and without ray tracing in that game alone to get a good idea.

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20 hours ago, George P said:

Windows Central has a post up talking about Halo Infinite and it's gfx etc.

 

Source.

 

Basically like other posts are saying, it's a older build from around the end of 2019, doesn't have ray tracing or other XSX bits added yet.   Guess we'll see 5 or so months from now, whenever this comes out, how it looks.  Visuals are always tweaked towards the end, and just adding ray tracing makes a big difference to games out right now.  Heck, anyone who's looked a metro exodus should check out the difference with and without ray tracing in that game alone to get a good idea.

I was going to post this. 

 

Overall I thought the show was a bit average. 

 

I don't know if my expectations are too high, MS isn't hitting the mark or I've just lost the "wow" factor for video games in general. 

 

I'm still looking forward to upgrading my One S and seeing some of my existing games with 4K and HDR, but if I had  One X, I feel like there would less of a push to upgrade. 

 

Another thing I noticed was that a few of the games didn't mention Xbox One in the titles cards. I've also seen a few articles pointing out the same. I'm interested to see what MS has to say about that given their earlier promise 

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27 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

I don't know if my expectations are too high, MS isn't hitting the mark or I've just lost the "wow" factor for video games in general. 

Probably all of the above.  Game Pass is still the star of the show, their investments lately have been great and I can't wait to see everything, but they still love their mainline series we're all bored with.

 

I haven't even watched any of the stuff.  I'll probably do it eventually, but right now...meh.  I'll be more interested when the console is about to release, whenever that is.

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36 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

I was going to post this. 

 

Overall I thought the show was a bit average. 

 

I don't know if my expectations are too high, MS isn't hitting the mark or I've just lost the "wow" factor for video games in general. 

 

I'm still looking forward to upgrading my One S and seeing some of my existing games with 4K and HDR, but if I had  One X, I feel like there would less of a push to upgrade. 

 

Another thing I noticed was that a few of the games didn't mention Xbox One in the titles cards. I've also seen a few articles pointing out the same. I'm interested to see what MS has to say about that given their earlier promise 

A number of new games and reboots like Fable don't say Xbox One etc, those are, what I expect, coming in 2022, so it's after the cross-gen period MS talked about.

 

That just makes them XSX and PC exclusives and they shouldn't be held back by the X1 like some people talked about.

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18 minutes ago, LostCat said:

Probably all of the above.  Game Pass is still the star of the show, their investments lately have been great and I can't wait to see everything, but they still love their mainline series we're all bored with.

 

I haven't even watched any of the stuff.  I'll probably do it eventually, but right now...meh.  I'll be more interested when the console is about to release, whenever that is.

Outside of Halo, that's coming soon, nothing else mainline is coming soon.  We haven't had a new Fable in forever, and it still looks like it's a few years away.  They teased a new Forza, but that also looks like it's a few years out to.   There actually was a number of new stuff shown, at least in trailers, like Avowed.  Unless you're not into RPGs that much.

 

 

From the main show.

 

Halo Infinite

State of Decay 3

Forza

Everwild 

Grounded

Avowed

Hellblade 2

Psychonauts 2

Fable

 

I mean it's not a bad 1st party start,  3 new IPs, 1 old IP that's getting a reboot, and 4 sequels.  And there's still a number of studios that haven't shown what they're working on so who knows?  That's 9 titles and they've got 15 studios, so I expect more to drop over the coming months.

 

 

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1 hour ago, George P said:

Outside of Halo, that's coming soon, nothing else mainline is coming soon.  We haven't had a new Fable in forever, and it still looks like it's a few years away.  They teased a new Forza, but that also looks like it's a few years out to.   There actually was a number of new stuff shown, at least in trailers, like Avowed.  Unless you're not into RPGs that much.

 

 

From the main show.

 

Halo Infinite

State of Decay 3

Forza

Everwild 

Grounded

Avowed

Hellblade 2

Psychonauts 2

Fable

 

I mean it's not a bad 1st party start,  3 new IPs, 1 old IP that's getting a reboot, and 4 sequels.  And there's still a number of studios that haven't shown what they're working on so who knows?  That's 9 titles and they've got 15 studios, so I expect more to drop over the coming months.

 

 

I'm into everything Obsidian is doing right now (and a lot of their older games.)  Pillars of Eternity was a little weird but I still liked it.  Just didn't get into that series.

 

I hope they end up doing another Alpha Protocol...it's been long enough I'm not expecting anything, but heh.

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26 minutes ago, LostCat said:

I'm into everything Obsidian is doing right now (and a lot of their older games.)  Pillars of Eternity was a little weird but I still liked it.  Just didn't get into that series.

 

I hope they end up doing another Alpha Protocol...it's been long enough I'm not expecting anything, but heh.

Avowed, from what I read, sounds like it takes place in the Pillars of Eternity world.  I'd have to double check that one.

 

I liked Outer Worlds though I think it felt short, probably because of the situation they were in at the time, money wise.  I think now with the MS deep pockets they can really go all out, should be very interesting to see.

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3 minutes ago, George P said:

Avowed, from what I read, sounds like it takes place in the Pillars of Eternity world.  I'd have to double check that one.

 

I liked Outer Worlds though I think it felt short, probably because of the situation they were in at the time, money wise.  I think now with the MS deep pockets they can really go all out, should be very interesting to see.

Yeah, but it's not the weird 2D style and they have a much larger budget so I'm pretty sure I'll dig it.

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On 7/25/2020 at 2:56 PM, LostCat said:

Probably all of the above.  Game Pass is still the star of the show, their investments lately have been great and I can't wait to see everything, but they still love their mainline series we're all bored with.

 

I haven't even watched any of the stuff.  I'll probably do it eventually, but right now...meh.  I'll be more interested when the console is about to release, whenever that is.

Yep, I know personally I'm becoming much pickier with what I play. I've gone from buying 5+ release day games to 1 (may be 2) games a year. My backlog plus Gamepass is keeping me very entertained. 

On 7/25/2020 at 3:04 PM, George P said:

A number of new games and reboots like Fable don't say Xbox One etc, those are, what I expect, coming in 2022, so it's after the cross-gen period MS talked about.

 

That just makes them XSX and PC exclusives and they shouldn't be held back by the X1 like some people talked about.

As I said it's just me becoming fussier. I don't get showing games that are years out, show me more of what I'm going to be playing day 1.

 

I get that MS want to drip feed and keep the hype going with Xbox, but they should have stuck with a single show to show off everything Xbox related instead of doing multiple shows. It feels like some of the stuff they're showing is just filler. Both shows, despite how poor I thought Sony's show was, have left a lot of people thinking meh.

 

If they had a single big show to replace E3, show the heavy hitters from third parties, show the stuff that's releasing this year from their first parties and finish with showing off Lockhart and opening pre-orders for XSX. 

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9 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

Yep, I know personally I'm becoming much pickier with what I play. I've gone from buying 5+ release day games to 1 (may be 2) games a year. My backlog plus Gamepass is keeping me very entertained. 

As I said it's just me becoming fussier. I don't get showing games that are years out, show me more of what I'm going to be playing day 1.

 

I get that MS want to drip feed and keep the hype going with Xbox, but they should have stuck with a single show to show off everything Xbox related instead of doing multiple shows. It feels like some of the stuff they're showing is just filler. Both shows, despite how poor I thought Sony's show was, have left a lot of people thinking meh.

 

If they had a single big show to replace E3, show the heavy hitters from third parties, show the stuff that's releasing this year from their first parties and finish with showing off Lockhart and opening pre-orders for XSX. 

I agree with you on showing games coming, but MS would do that last few years of the X1 and still got flack for it.  While on the flip side, Sony would show you the same games for 2-3 years till they're released, which made their last 2 E3s boring af IMO.  Probably why they decided to not do E3 anymore.

 

I figure at this point since critics keep harping on MS about 1st party exclusives, even if they're not coming soon, they figured they'd get the word out that they've got them in the works right now.   I still figure we're going to see more later, a number of their studios still haven't said what they're working on.

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So just following on from this headline last night - https://www.neowin.net/news/halo-infinite-has-been-delayed-until-2021

 

I'm disappointed and at the same time understand why MS/343 decided to delay.

 

I feel like this will hurt the launch of Xbox Series X, I feel like Halo may have been the game that pushed people to get a Series X. I can't remember what the launch line up looks like but I don't think there's anything new that will push folk to get a Series X.

 

Or is that just me?

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1 hour ago, dipsylalapo said:

So just following on from this headline last night - https://www.neowin.net/news/halo-infinite-has-been-delayed-until-2021

 

I'm disappointed and at the same time understand why MS/343 decided to delay.

 

I feel like this will hurt the launch of Xbox Series X, I feel like Halo may have been the game that pushed people to get a Series X. I can't remember what the launch line up looks like but I don't think there's anything new that will push folk to get a Series X.

 

Or is that just me?

It might hurt but at the same time if they push the compatibility angle and free Series X updates to games you own, it could still win over early buyers.  I think Halo Infinite is the only delay, any other games on track for that time should still be coming.  We'll see how it goes, and how long the delay for Halo actually is.  Maybe it's Feb 2021?  It could be July 2021?    

 

I still expect MS has a few games they haven't talked about that are coming in Nov or right after, we'll see if they say anything later this month or Sept, we still need info on Series S.

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5 hours ago, dipsylalapo said:

So just following on from this headline last night - https://www.neowin.net/news/halo-infinite-has-been-delayed-until-2021

 

I'm disappointed and at the same time understand why MS/343 decided to delay.

 

I feel like this will hurt the launch of Xbox Series X, I feel like Halo may have been the game that pushed people to get a Series X. I can't remember what the launch line up looks like but I don't think there's anything new that will push folk to get a Series X.

 

Or is that just me?

I was never buying it for Halo.  I was buying it for my existing collection and updates to those games and upcoming titles working much better.

 

I'm still playing far too much Destiny 2, and would love to play The Outer Worlds again on there for starters.  Gears 5 definitely feels like it needs a better machine.  We've still got three months and I expect we'll know more about launch upgrades and games in late September.

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2 hours ago, LostCat said:

I was never buying it for Halo.  I was buying it for my existing collection and updates to those games and upcoming titles working much better.

 

I'm still playing far too much Destiny 2, and would love to play The Outer Worlds again on there for starters.  Gears 5 definitely feels like it needs a better machine.  We've still got three months and I expect we'll know more about launch upgrades and games in late September.

I still have a gut feeling that we're going to get a little news drop this month and another sometime in Sept.     The leaked white controllers have stickers saying do not display before November 6th, looking like that's the release date.

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22 hours ago, LostCat said:

I was never buying it for Halo.  I was buying it for my existing collection and updates to those games and upcoming titles working much better.

Pretty much this, I don't care too much about any of the new titles, I'd rather what I'm playing now runs better, faster load times etc. I don't even care about more things being in "4K" that much.

 

Halo, Fable etc are just nice to haves so them being delayed or not available at launch doesn't mean a huge amount to me.

 

I'll potentially give Destiny 2 another try once all the DLCs after Warmind drop as part of game pass too.

 

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We're at the midpoint of August, things could get interesting soon.

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Interesting tidbits if all of that is confirmed.  I really think the Series S will be $300 tops.

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Yeah I was wondering when the next event is going to happen. 

 

Wonder if they'll pull a May and just skip it lol

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35 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

I'll check that out @George P

 

Saw this article over the weekend. It'll be interesting to see how this pans out - https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/halo-infinite-could-drop-its-xbox-one-version-its-been-claimed/

If it's coming later in 2021 that could be possible.  And if true the choice to do so would be to push the visuals to as high as they can on XSX for what's more or less they're flagship series.  I understand the thinking behind it.  Sucks for XO owners but we're talking a year from now, maybe, not in a few months.  Enough time to get a XSX.

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      Alien Isolation Anthem Assassin’s Creed III Remastered Assassin’s Creed Rogue Remastered Assassin’s Creed The Ezio Collection Assassin’s Creed Unity Battle Chasers: Nightwar Battlefield Hardline Beholder Complete Edition Dead Island Definitive Edition Dead Island: Riptide Definitive Edition Deus Ex Mankind Divided DiRT 4 Dishonored: Death of the Outsider Don’t Starve: Giant Edition Dragon Age: Inquisition Dungeon Defenders II Dying Light Far Cry 5 Far Cry New Dawn Far Cry Primal Gears of War 4 Golf with your Friends Halo Wars 2 Halo: Spartan Assault Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition Homefront: The Revolution Hyperscape Island Saver LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham LEGO Jurassic World LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 2 LEGO Marvel Superheroes LEGO Marvel’s Avengers LEGO STAR WARS: The Force Awakens LEGO The Hobbit LEGO The Incredibles LEGO Worlds Life is Strange Life is Strange 2 Lords of the Fallen Mad Max Metro 2033 Redux Metro: Last Light Redux Monster Energy Supercross 3 MotoGP 20 Moving Out My Friend Pedro My Time at Portia Overcooked! 2 Paladins Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid Prey Realm Royale ReCore Shadow of the Tomb Raider Definitive Edition Shadow Warrior 2 Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition SMITE Steep Super Lucky’s Tale SUPERHOT The Evil Within 2 (PsychoBreak 2 in Japan) The Gardens Between The LEGO Movie 2 Videogame The LEGO Movie Videogame Tom Clancy’s The Division Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Totally Reliable Delivery Service Two Point Hospital Unruly Heroes Untitled Goose Game Wasteland 3 Watch_Dogs Yakuza 6: The Song of Life It's worth noting that 20 out of the 97 games supported by FPS Boost will have the feature off by default on the Xbox Series X, which usually means that sacrifices have to be made in resolution to obtain the higher framerate, thus Microsoft believes it's best for players to choose how they prefer to play.

      Microsoft also points out that many of the games that support FPS Boost are available as part of a Game Pass subscription, so this is yet another boon subscribers are getting at no additional cost.

    • By Usama Jawad96
      Microsoft planned to reduce Xbox store cut to 12% like PC, but will no longer do so
      by Usama Jawad

      Last week, Microsoft announced that it will give game developers an 88% revenue cut for titles sold through the Microsoft Store for PC after August 1. This is a notable increase over the current 70-30 split and would bring the storefront in parity with the Epic Games Store, which is also popular among developers for this compelling revenue sharing option, among other things.

      Now, it has been revealed that Microsoft investigated the possibility of doing the same for the Microsoft Store for Xbox, but no longer plans on doing so.



      As spotted by The Verge, court documents filed a few days ago, but created back in January include a statement in the Microsoft Store on Xbox section that "all games will move to 88/12 in CY21", in line with what Microsoft recently disclosed for PC games only. The company also mentioned that:

      However, in a statement to The Verge, the Redmond tech giant indicated that it does not plan to update the revenue sharing split for console publishers.

      That said, it is important to note that we do not know if this proposal even progressed far enough to be communicated with publishers. Another interesting observation is regarding giving all streaming rights to Microsoft, since nothing of the sort was publicly announced for PC publishing a few days ago.

      The court document in question is from the Epic Games vs. Apple trial that will start today. The spat about revenue sharing between the firms began back in August 2020, with both finally set to have their day in court. Microsoft has sided with Epic Games so far, and the company's VP of Xbox business development, Lori Wright, has also been called as a third-party witness.