religion? fake? real?

[Fairlytayleree]

I havent read much of this thread, but people interested in these kinds of things could take a look at my webpage i've just added to my profile.

Not that I dont want to read it you understand, just i know that these ideas can lead to confusion and, simply, misunderstanding.

It's not really a useful question asked in the topic name, i must say ! :)

Please dont flame me or post 'inflammitory' comments on it here. If you want to talk about my page just PM me. If you dont want to read it now thats fine, it's quite in depth.

Some of it's even off topic too! ;)

[BOOGMaster]

BOOGSoftball.com - may not answer your questions, but a fun website as well..

:woot:

back on topic...

Religion, in and of itself is just a word...

God didn't create a religion. Man created religion. God is love. plain and simple. All he wants is to be loved back.

[TheElite]

<sighs>

people just don't get it.

yep, i know u dont.

pure ignorance!

[BOOGMaster]

yep, i know u dont.

pure ignorance!

Speaking of ignorance...

nothing you have said has made any sense...

Religion is man-created. God is love. He is not a "religion."

[justin89h]

no u guys got it wrong, what i am trying to ask is do you guys believe that religion is real or is just an excuse to explain the unknown. i don't care about what kind of religion, but religion as a general catagory

ok, if your asking about 'religion' i believe it is true, which answers your main question, though im also a christian, so i believe 'religion' actually refers to, similar as boogmasterdan said, just other things man has created to try and fill the void only God can fill.

-- and thats my bible bashing for the day, and i dont do it often, so dont bug me bout it if ur just looking to insult

[BOOGMaster]

^^how was that Bible bashing?

:D :D

[justin89h]

well... it sorta is :)

[Leo Natan]

Read my signature, this is my belief.

[justin89h]

i sooo want to answer that with a big long messy argument, but wont cause i dont want to get banned. -Just letting u know how i feel

[LVirus]

Nothinhg makes me want more to cry :cry: than religios people. And this new immature religion that ragest upon us and shall destroy current world in upcoming World War III .. yep that one is islam and its ways to make women objects and kill those who don't belive in their ****. Luckily christianity is bit more tolerable and I manage my way in this society. If I would been living in islam one, I would gone insane or got killed because allah backwards means halla which means in finnish damage or snow frost :D

[Leo Natan]

i sooo want to answer that with a big long messy argument, but wont cause i dont want to get banned. -Just letting u know how i feel

Was that ment for me? You can send me your answer in private, I won't report it.

[Leo Natan]

Nothinhg makes me want more to cry  :cry: than religios people. And this new immature religion that ragest upon us and shall destroy current world in upcoming World War III .. yep that one is islam and its ways to make women objects and kill those who don't belive in their ****. Luckily christianity is bit more tolerable and I manage my way in this society. If I would been living in islam one, I would gone insane or got killed because allah backwards means halla which means in finnish damage or snow frost :D

Oh yes, christianity is real tolerate... especially for gay people, right?

[BOOGMaster]

Oh yes, christianity is real tolerate... especially for gay people, right?

God doesn't tolerate sin - hence homosexuality - untolerated...

this is getting too far off topic - as these discussions always do...

[elliot]

the bible and torah may not be 100%, but the Quran DEFINETELY is 100% true.

i dont know one christian or jew or heard of one that has memorised the whole of the torah or the bible (gospel).

i know many people who have memorised the quran. this is how it has been over centuries, that is why the validity stays. that is why the Quran has not been falsified.

so you are saying everything is false until it is memorised

and then it becomes 100% true? :rofl:

[Leo Natan]

God doesn't tolerate sin - hence homosexuality - untolerated...

Proven my point, thanks!

About the god part, again read my signature.

[BOOGMaster]

so you are saying everything is false until it is memorised

and then it becomes 100% true? :rofl:

I think what he was refering to was the dedication of those to memorize the Quran - and the lack of spiritual dedication by Christians in general.

Kinda sad that we Christians won't memorize the truth and you have heathens memorizing false doctrine and performing cultish activities...

[spaceman255]

Religion = bs

[gawdflesh]

mech, why would i try to prove the bible to you? it has been falsified so many times that it is embarassing to even think of using it!

now on the other hand, the Quran, a Holy book which has NOT been proved wrong.

aight, let me get some info for ya

Ignorance like this is what is wrong with the world today.

I know little about Islam, as I'm currently in the process of learning more about buddhism, but one message has been repeated over and over again through this entire thread, by other muslims, and that is that true followers of the Islamic faith don't behave in the manner in which you are. Constantly belittling other religions for having a different belief structure than Islam isn't a way to get your point across, nor (according to what I've read in this thread) a proper activity for Muslim followers. And since you seem incapable of formulating a concept on your own without insulting or posting links that attempt to get across what you're trying to say, what exactly is the point of your continuous posting, other than to raise your own post count? I suggest that, instead of wasting everyones time by injecting yourself into conversations that are above your capacity for understanding, you spend more time reading the Quaran, since it's painfully obvious that you more than likely never have.

That being said...

I was going to try to stay out of this thead, since it seems quite long and heated, and I've seen hardly anything original or even worthy of such an extended conversation. The only point I have, or even worthwhile to contribute to all this mess is that IMHO, religion is nothing more than a path, and each religion (or lack thereof) is merely a different path to the same destination. It is what you do along that path that determines who you are and how you are remembered. If you can live your life and be a good person without religion, more power to you. If you need spirituality in your life, feel free. One of the traits that raises us above common animals is the capacity for free will and thought; exercise it, to yourself. To attempt to force your personal beliefs (or lack thereof) on others is nothing more than continuing a cycle of stupidity that has done nothing but cause dispair and discontent throughout human history. Spirituality is a personal choice, not a pep rally. It's a personal decision. Keep it that way.

[BOOGMaster]

Religion = bs

:no:

[dtmunir]

so you are saying everything is false until it is memorised

and then it becomes 100% true? :rofl:

no... what he IS saying is that the sources for all the Holy Books today are generally flawed, ie they have been tampered with due to the fact tht their various copies have been lost/destroyed etc. However the Quran, which is the only exception is preserved in it's true form, because as a sign of respect, many muslims MEMORISE the entire Quran. This practice has been carrying on from the day the Quran was revealed, and thus manyparents taught their children the Quran by heart, and so we can be sure today tht the copies of the Quran we read today are still 100% authentic.

Pls do note that Islam in no way requires that we memorise the Quran. It is only done by people as a sign of respect.

[semifamous]

Proven my point, thanks!

About the god part, again read my signature.

God doesn't have a problem with homosexual people at all. It's their sin that he doesn't tolerate.

But at the same time, he doesn't like lies, murder, stealing, and using His name in vain.

Why don't people swear to other gods?

Instead of calling on Jesus, why not "Zeus!" or something? Even better, I prefer the ever popular, "Oh man..." Because it's not God's fault we're damned, and "Jesus H. Christ" isn't the problem. It's man's fault, and Jesus is the solution... =)

[Fotix]

God doesn't like shrimp, either.

http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

[BOOGMaster]

God doesn't have a problem with homosexual people at all. It's their sin that he doesn't tolerate.

But at the same time, he doesn't like lies, murder, stealing, and using His name in vain.

Why don't people swear to other gods?

Instead of calling on Jesus, why not "Zeus!" or something? Even better, I prefer the ever popular, "Oh man..." Because it's not God's fault we're damned, and "Jesus H. Christ" isn't the problem. It's man's fault, and Jesus is the solution... =)

well stated. agreed.

[Glowstick]

i know many people who have memorised the quran. this is how it has been over centuries, that is why the validity stays. that is why the Quran has not been falsified.

Yes, because memories don't fail.

[Leo Natan]

God doesn't have a problem with homosexual people at all. It's their sin that he doesn't tolerate.

But at the same time, he doesn't like lies, murder, stealing, and using His name in vain.

Why don't people swear to other gods?

Instead of calling on Jesus, why not "Zeus!" or something? Even better, I prefer the ever popular, "Oh man..." Because it's not God's fault we're damned, and "Jesus H. Christ" isn't the problem. It's man's fault, and Jesus is the solution... =)

As posted here, religion is bullsh't.