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I agree about only rolling on items that are made for the character you are using in that dungeon, but I also agree that it's not that big of a deal because you can gear yourself out with tokens anyway. Once you are geared up on tokens you can get into a good 10 or 25 man run and get the really good ****.

I agree about only rolling on items that are made for the character you are using in that dungeon

If I'm playing a retribution paladin - wouldn't a +spellpower shield be made for the character I'm using every bit as much as it's made for an elemental shaman?

If I have a fully ilevel 258/264 tank set on a paladin, would you really rather I show up in quest blues & greens to heal your dungeon and collect the healing loot?

Alternatively: if I have a good quality DPS set on a death knight, do you want me to show up to tank your dungeon with 22k HP, under 510 defence, and 20% avoidance or would you prefer I did 5,000 DPS on my main spec and get the run finished quicker?

I understand that people want to reduce competition for specific drops but in that situation you're better off forming your own group in advance. PuGs have no obligation to one-another, and I argue somebody going on their 'main spec' and collecting loot for 'offspec' is the responsible thing to do because it maximizes their contribution to the run.

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i've been away from WoW for well over a year and i'm finally back as a prot war (used to play a Rogue)

the game a changed so much since i left

the biggest... "improvement".... seems to be the upgrade to the LFG utility

at first i was very impressed by it, i could find a group in less than a minute

then i remembered all the problems with pugging instances

now with dual spec everyone wants everything. DPS rolling on tank gear, tanks rolling on DPS gear. healers rolling on DPS gear. DPS rolling on healer gear.

it's madness

if you want prot gear come to the instance as a TANK

in the 4 years i played before i quit i NEVER rolled on off spec gear. if i came as combat rogue i don't touch daggers for the dagger rogue. if i'm there as a healer i don't touch DPS gear.

tl;dr

"i'm rolling for off spec"

kthxbye

/QQ

I take it you've upgraded to WoTLK? Do you like the new content? What about gaining XP in PvP?

Usual rule is if no-one needs for main spec, then those that want can need for off spec. Alternatively you can choose to DE, which has driven the price of Abyss Crystals down from 120g to 15g on Eonar.

On another note I noticed above; if someone turns up for FoS/HoR HC in blues they usually get kicked by vote.

I take it you've upgraded to WoTLK? Do you like the new content? What about gaining XP in PvP?

Usual rule is if no-one needs for main spec, then those that want can need for off spec. Alternatively you can choose to DE, which has driven the price of Abyss Crystals down from 120g to 15g on Eonar.

On another note I noticed above; if someone turns up for FoS/HoR HC in blues they usually get kicked by vote.

I never actually got kicked but I have 3/4 Epics and people still complained. My Gear score was around 3800 at the time. People really dont like when the tank is "under" geared. I think it really just becomes a matter of laziness for the healer who is used to coasting through content. I do have experience healing with both a priest and a paladin and I understand the want to have an easy PUG but sometimes it's just not fair to the guys who are just trying to upagrade from blue. If we don't give them a chance, who will?

I take it you've upgraded to WoTLK? Do you like the new content? What about gaining XP in PvP?

Usual rule is if no-one needs for main spec, then those that want can need for off spec. Alternatively you can choose to DE, which has driven the price of Abyss Crystals down from 120g to 15g on Eonar.

On another note I noticed above; if someone turns up for FoS/HoR HC in blues they usually get kicked by vote.

Oh, you playing on Eonar? Which side? Losers or winners (if you're playing PVP you'll surely know)? :)

I never actually got kicked but I have 3/4 Epics and people still complained. My Gear score was around 3800 at the time. People really dont like when the tank is "under" geared. I think it really just becomes a matter of laziness for the healer who is used to coasting through content. I do have experience healing with both a priest and a paladin and I understand the want to have an easy PUG but sometimes it's just not fair to the guys who are just trying to upagrade from blue. If we don't give them a chance, who will?

I (used to, before quitting) prefer healing undergeared tanks. Kept me awake while doing the mundane task of healing, especially while farming badges.. I have literally fallen asleep on the keyboard countless times.

I take it you've upgraded to WoTLK? Do you like the new content? What about gaining XP in PvP?

Usual rule is if no-one needs for main spec, then those that want can need for off spec. Alternatively you can choose to DE, which has driven the price of Abyss Crystals down from 120g to 15g on Eonar.

On another note I noticed above; if someone turns up for FoS/HoR HC in blues they usually get kicked by vote.

i got to 80 a week after LK launched

but i had to quit right after that because RL got a little crazy....

as for the content... i did everything but naxx when it was fresh

it was fun to see some of the new boss mechanics. wish i had time to put some time into raiding....

i'm actually VERY disappointed with the way that heroics have turned out

although i haven't done any of the new instances (PoS, HoR etc), from what i've seen EVERYTHING is tank and spank and trash pulls are just button mashing

i wish Blizzard would revert the difficulty back to the pre-nerf heroics from BC

i wish Blizzard would revert the difficulty back to the pre-nerf heroics from BC

Those days are dead and gone. I liked the difficulty of a 3 hour slave pens clear the week after TBC launched ("What if we use shield wall on this double defender pull?It'll be back up by the time we get to the next pair?" but most people loathed them. By the time I was being forced into shattered halls/arcatraz/shadow lab for the fifth time in a week (for attunements) I'd had my fill of them.

I'd like to see "tiered" 5-man content. 2 or 3 dungeons that drop "tier N" quality loot and tuned at TBC pre-nerf difficulty. As new raids are released, bundle those with 8 or 9 bosses worth of 5-man content (even if it's just buffing existing stuff) that drop appropriate quality gear.

For what it's worth: I had a great time doing a 5-man run of Sarth. Each week we're going to add 1 drake and see if we can't do 3-drakes as 5-man content. No drakes was a complete joke. After that it's on to 5-man Naxx.

Those days are dead and gone. I liked the difficulty of a 3 hour slave pens clear the week after TBC launched ("What if we use shield wall on this double defender pull?It'll be back up by the time we get to the next pair?" but most people loathed them. By the time I was being forced into shattered halls/arcatraz/shadow lab for the fifth time in a week (for attunements) I'd had my fill of them.

haha

ya those were good days

my personal favourite:

in heroic UB

"ok, frost mage, you're going to shoot that bog lord with frost bolts and kite him around until we kill that other bog lord. then we all run out, reset, and kill the bog lord you were just kiting"

close second was always seeing this: "LF mage for H MgT"

because the only way to do it was with CC

AoE pulls are for girls :laugh:

College Vacation + Girlfriend at work + Tuesdays = Complete and utter boredom.

Yeah but think of it this way. the extended maintenance today is because they are making the Friends and Family Alpha live :D so the beta is just around the corner.

close second was always seeing this: "LF mage for H MgT"

because the only way to do it was with CC

AoE pulls are for girls :laugh:

For laughs we used to run 5-mage H MGT. Just CC the entire pull and zerg down the mobs one at a time.

9/10 times it was more effective than trying to do it the 'expected' way.

yeah the alpha starts today wow.com and a few others have posted pics of the install disk and stuff.

WoW.com also confirmed those pics were fake. Though no one denies the Alpha starts Soon?.

According to The Associated Press, 23 year old Christopher H. Bouffard accepted $760 in 2008 from at least two people in exchange for WoW accounts. Bouffard then failed to turn over the agreed upon accounts, leading to a police investigation. He has now been charged with two counts of grand theft and one count of scheming to defraud. Bouffard is currently being held in jail until he is able to post a $20,000 bail.

While defrauding people and taking their money isn't anything new, getting busted over it while selling WoW accounts is. From what we understand, the arrest is not for the actual trading and selling of accounts, but for the fraud that went on in the process. The fraud in this case is a criminal matter with very real implications for Mr. Bouffard, whereas the buying and selling of WoW accounts is against the agreed upon Terms of Service, but not against any criminal code.

:laugh:. What a moron.

According to The Associated Press, 23 year old Christopher H. Bouffard accepted $760 in 2008 from at least two people in exchange for WoW accounts. Bouffard then failed to turn over the agreed upon accounts, leading to a police investigation. He has now been charged with two counts of grand theft and one count of scheming to defraud. Bouffard is currently being held in jail until he is able to post a $20,000 bail.

While defrauding people and taking their money isn't anything new, getting busted over it while selling WoW accounts is. From what we understand, the arrest is not for the actual trading and selling of accounts, but for the fraud that went on in the process. The fraud in this case is a criminal matter with very real implications for Mr. Bouffard, whereas the buying and selling of WoW accounts is against the agreed upon Terms of Service, but not against any criminal code.

:laugh:. What a moron.

Ya I read that early and thought it was a joke, but then I say it pop up on a news site and roughly thought 'What a moron!' too.

And to be honest, with the amount of time I have put into my account, I think I'd want a lot more than $700.

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