What religion are you?


  

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  1. 1. What religion are you?

    • Roman Catholic
      40
    • Protestant (Baptist, Luthan, Methodist, etc)
      33
    • Latter-Day Saints
      4
    • J-Witnesses
      3
    • Athiests
      49
    • Non denominational
      9
    • Jewish (Any denomination)
      13
    • I belive in a God in some form or another
      28
    • I belive in GODS in some form or another
      7
    • Not listed
      31


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I belive in my self.. people say that God is every where.. in you, in everything.. so if God is in me.. then all i have to do i belive in my self.. right? and i do that.. i belive in my self.. and my friends, parents.. (maybe my sister :p)

Originally posted by [saint dark]

you hit the nail, religion is all about faith in something, faith, not facts, I dont believe in a god, but I have this idea: "If really there?s a god, Im not going to worship him" but I have that idea because im %100 that there?s no god, and not, Im not sceptical (grammar?) I believe in life outside the earth, etc

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Yes, there are facts, but they are disputable. Why if there was in your opinion a God wouldn't you worship him? If He had control over your eternity and you knew this beyond any doubt, are you meaning to say you actually would refuse to worship him? Nothing against you, but that comment if I understood properly is just crazy. Also as far as life outside the earth, I don't think that the Bible or any belief of Christianity or other religions (to my knowledge) as a whole deny that as a possibility.

Im my opinion religions and "God" are there because the exact reason you give me, they are the easy and fast answers to question and things that cannot be proven by wordly things yet, again that?s my opinion.

Its not the easy answer to it actually, its the more difficult answer for those who truly devote their lives to Him. Perhaps easier in your view because you feel that those who believe in a higher being simply cannot cope with the truth of death?

I born in the middle of a strongly christian family, my mother used to go 3 tiams at day tu church, thats insane, now she?s agnostic thanks to my explanations to her, for me is so obvious that there?s no a god.

Why did your mother go to church 3 times a day if you don't mind me asking? Or was it just something she chose to do? I personally would find that crazy as well, but I wouldn't fault anyone for it. And honestly its easy to talk someone out of thinking there is a God because it is human nature to feel that we were denied God's love in hard times, when in fact we were just not accepting it.

btw, about your %76 stat, is %63 now in 2002

That's because people are thinking more and more scienfically but overlook a lot of things. People fail to realize that even looking scientifically there is no real answer for how the universe came to be, much the same way people say how could God have always been.

Just as a note nothing I said was meant to personally offend anyone or anything of the sort, just stating my opinions.

I'm a Christian. Always have been...go to a Evengelical Free church.

Actually...the percentage of those that beleive in a "higher power" is closer to 95%-98%. Everyone of the major religions, except for buddhism, believes in a form of god or another. Since 1947, Gallup has been doing a "do you beleive in God or a universal spirit" poll. It hasn't varied more than 5% (94%-99%) from 1947 up till this year. 93% believe in heaven, and 93% believe that Jesus was born of a virgin.

Yeah...I was pretty offended by some of the comments earlier. Non-beleivers alway complain how Christians try to "convert" them...but its the atheists that usually throw the first punch. And so far its been the only one thrown. Just keep the tone down a bit.

Originally posted by Phinal Phantasm

Also, I've noticed a lot of people discussing Greek mythology... I have a thought... you ever notice how old religions (like the Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Aztec, etc) are now considered Myth? How long until they're talking about the "Christian Mythologies"? What makes modern day religion better than the Greek religion? :ponder:

Agree 100 %...

I'm in that line of thinking...

Before that was called "magic", now is called "religion"...

Same thing, updated and new names....

Like a poet from here said long time ago (free translation):

"I respect all beliefs, all are the same, all are beliefs"... :p

Originally posted by otacorb

Some of the post on this topic are totally hogwash. I was raised Catholic, but after reading the BIBLE for myself. I wanted to find a church that was most like what I learned from the BIBLE so, I am now a BAPTIST.

I am not brain washed, weak, unable to make my own decisions. But until you truly had a spiritual awakening or spiritual experience to bring to a spiritual awakening, then you have very little to believe in except what the world gives you too.

I am not here to judge any of you. But I'd much rather spend my life believing that JESUS CHRIST died on a cross for me and that some day I will be with him in paradise, even if I find out its not true, than to live like some folks do only to find it is true. I have lost nothing from my belief in GOD.

Regardless of what any of you folks say, believing as I do has made life much more satisfying and happy. You can attack me all you want, but you won't change what I feel in my heart and know to be a fact, not cause of what the BIBLE says, not because of what some preacher preached, but simply because I have my own personal relationship with my creator, which is GOD!

Call me nuts, call me fantical, call me what you will, it truly matters not to me, cause I am at peace with myself, GOD and this unruly world. What is truly funny to me, is that if any of you found yourself in jeapordy, the first thing you'd do is cry out to GOD, but yet right now he is just a joke, doesn't exist. Uh Huh!

Well GOD BLESS YOU ALL! I can see the pitch forks flying already... I LOVE JESUS!

I totally agree. I am Baptist. I happen to know that God does truely exist. Things have happened in my life that could have only come from God. Certain things happening at the exact right time ... the chances of this being a coincidence are just about nill.

I am sorry if you all feel pressured or pushed by christian to change. Those people aren't doing what Jesus wanted. And if you think those christian Tv stations are horrible, so do I. Have of what they preach is "give me money." Jesus never wanted that.

Look at it this way. If I am right, I have nothing to lose. If I am wrong I have lost nothing. If you are wrong you have lost everything and eternity is a long time to be wrong.

Originally posted by ahodes1

Yes, there are facts, but they are disputable. Why if there was in your opinion a God wouldn't you worship him? If He had control over your eternity and you knew this beyond any doubt, are you meaning to say you actually would refuse to worship him? Nothing against you, but that comment if I understood properly is just crazy. Also as far as life outside the earth, I don't think that the Bible or any belief of Christianity or other religions (to my knowledge) as a whole deny that as a possibility.

Its not the easy answer to it actually, its the more difficult answer for those who truly devote their lives to Him. Perhaps easier in your view because you feel that those who believe in a higher being simply cannot cope with the truth of death?

Why did your mother go to church 3 times a day if you don't mind me asking? Or was it just something she chose to do? I personally would find that crazy as well, but I wouldn't fault anyone for it. And honestly its easy to talk someone out of thinking there is a God because it is human nature to feel that we were denied God's love in hard times, when in fact we were just not accepting it.

That's because people are thinking more and more scienfically but overlook a lot of things. People fail to realize that even looking scientifically there is no real answer for how the universe came to be, much the same way people say how could God have always been.

Just as a note nothing I said was meant to personally offend anyone or anything of the sort, just stating my opinions.

Is good to see a mature response, everything here is objetable, I cant prove the non existence of a god and you cant prove the existance of it, about my mother, I know, thats just insane, she used to be a christian fanatism

that fear is what stops you from doing stupid ****. i believe all people who are atheistic are also inclined to pracitice devious sins (such as homicide, beastiality [:D ]). silly cokeheads. and if you take that offensively then consider my last post that got me banned ( where i felt something was offensive and spoke my mind of it ).

later guys, anthony

btw. i am Baptist and i believe in god and i fear him

Originally posted by fizik3

that fear is what stops you from doing stupid ****. i believe all people who are atheistic are also inclined to pracitice devious sins (such as homicide, beastiality [:D ]). silly cokeheads. and if you take that offensively then consider my last post that got me banned ( where i felt something was offensive and spoke my mind of it ).

later guys, anthony

btw. i am Baptist and i believe in god and i fear him

Bull****! one need look no further than the current pedophelia scandal in the catholic church to realize that religion doesn't preclude one from commiting deviant acts.

More homocides has been committed in the name of religion than for any other purpose.

Originally posted by otacorb

Where does this hogwash about FEAR in religion come from. I have been practicing religion most of my life. The Baptist in fact teach that if someone is saved because they are scared into, then they are in fact not saved. So this is more hogwash you folks are spreading.

Then to the guy that in his hardest deepest moments doesn't need to cry out to God, but only rely on himself. That is what the world teaches people to do and you have simply bought into the lie. Because some believes in GOD, does not mean that don't believe in themselves. In fact my belief in GOD has given my confidence to believe in myself to a degree that I never could before. So again.. HOGWASH!

Right on man. Before I had great relationship with God, I was very introverted. I didn't like not being able to speak out. I was weak. After I started talking to God more and more I began to "grow." I am now 50% introvert and 50% extorvert. Exactly where I like it. Call me weak for having to rely on God and His will but at least it enabled me to change and grow into someone that I never thought could exist

Originally posted by wannabetenor

I can understand those who don't belive in a God because they have no proof. I don't share their belief, but I can see it.

You are talking abut "agnostics". :D

I'm not an atheist because "I have not proof", I'm atheist as product of rational analysis of antropology and the human thinking evolution. As a lot of atheist I know.

Atheist are not "poor people" who needs "to see to believe", we see the things in another way, we see another things.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe we are wrong, but is our "belief"... ;)

Originally posted by Jstphish

Look at it this way. If I am right, I have nothing to lose. If I am wrong I have lost nothing. If you are wrong you have lost everything and eternity is a long time to be wrong.

Its a poor way of justifying a belief, but it is true. But since if that's the only reason you "believe" in God then you don't truly believe, you only view the belief as a backup.

Originally posted by [saint dark]

about my mother, I know, thats just insane, she used to be a christian fanatism

There is a difference between fanatism and disillusionment. As far as I can see that is disillusionment as spending that much time at church is all well and good but I'm sure God had different plans and better things for her to do. If she was that fanatical about God she should have started preaching or something. It is a common misconception that all true Christians go to church all the time, and whatnot. Really a true Christian simply believes, trusts, and listens to God.

I beilieve that the divisions in Christianity are rediculous. To split the Christian church over minor disagreements is rediculous and hypocritical, as God would want us to be one, not a thousand different congregations. What truly weakens any religion are those that claim to believe, but it stops there, and their actions don't speak in sync with their mouths.

Jedi Knight Order.

LOL naa really I am a satanist. Oh I have a question I keep hearing about this god guy but has anyone met him?

Yes, but not in the way you are thinking. I have felt his Spirit as have all true Christians.
Uhhh...I've never met satan...

Neither have I, and that's something to be happy for!

be a little bit more considerate... I wont name any names but somebody said that "God was a joke." Personally, I'm offended by that comment. If you have something to say that you know others may be offended by, please don't say it at all. It makes it look like you're only trying to stir up trouble
I agree FULLY with what sp00nman said! I'm persononaly Catholic (roman) and if you people are hiding because of what the press has been saying latly (the sexual abuse), you need to come out of the "closet." Half of what the press says is true, and i can proove this one! I went to the vatican and talked to the pope my self, and personally i thought it was the moment of a lifetime! i talked to him all day, we ate lunch etc.. but anyway i asked him about what the press has been saying, and he told me that "there was a case in california when a schizofrenic woman reported that, and she had a LONG history of doing that kind of thing." then he told me "that was when it all started, and people where reporting fake cases of this and NONE of this is true." Anyways:
twist 100 % atheist, god is a joke.

if i had to choose a religion it would be buddism though

that offended me, and im sure alot more people. i BELIVE in Godand belive all of the things that the catholic church belives. I'm not going to get angry, because of what God [and Jesus] teaches.

I also saw some "church is brainwashing, Blah Blahh" well, i currently go to church once every week (on sundays.) and they dont make you go 5 times a week, So HOW is it brainwashing?

"Thats my 1 cent"

-sMk

Originally posted by ahodes1

Its a poor way of justifying a belief, but it is true. But since if that's the only reason you "believe" in God then you don't truly believe, you only view the belief as a backup.

That is not the only reason I beleive in God! I believe in him because I feel his presence, I see his grace, I know him. I truely do believe and I have a very strong faith in God.

Originally posted by ahodes1

There is a difference between fanatism and disillusionment. As far as I can see that is disillusionment as spending that much time at church is all well and good but I'm sure God had different plans and better things for her to do. If she was that fanatical about God she should have started preaching or something. It is a common misconception that all true Christians go to church all the time, and whatnot. Really a true Christian simply believes, trusts, and listens to God.

I beilieve that the divisions in Christianity are rediculous. To split the Christian church over minor disagreements is rediculous and hypocritical, as God would want us to be one, not a thousand different congregations. What truly weakens any religion are those that claim to believe, but it stops there, and their actions don't speak in sync with their mouths.

Bingo

Originally posted by Jstphish

That is not the only reason I beleive in God! I believe in him because I feel his presence, I see his grace, I know him. I truely do believe and I have a very strong faith in God.

I assumed it wasn't your only reason for believing in God but I just wanted to make that comment in general, it wasn't directed towards you

Many have taken offense to lots of things others have said. If you're going to complain about what your 500th post is about, you could have easily posted something else in its place.

Originally posted by ahodes1

Many would take offence to that and I think you are rather immature for posting this.

And to think this would have to be my 500th post... jeesh

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The setup process is pretty straightforward, through a wizard, and in full below: TOS 7 Initialization As you can see, TOS 7 received a new coat of paint, and the initialization requires fewer interactions. Happily, TOS no longer decides to throw all disks into the same Storage Pool; 2.5-inch HDDs are allocated into Storage Pool 1. This is because two of the HDDs are allocated to hold system files. Previously (with TOS 5 and 6), if you pre-installed HDDs and SSDs, they were all placed into Storage Pool 1, even if you did not select the SSDs for inclusion during the onboarding. TOS 7 Setup On first boot, there is a tutorial and some steps to take to harden the TNAS (or not), which includes an immediate update from TOS 7.0.0616 to 7.0.0706, of which the changelog screenshot is also included in the above gallery. It must be noted that the Security Advisor still contains (in my opinion) a pretty major bug in that if you enable SPC and then do the required rebooting, the Security Advisor still says that SPC is disabled. TerraMaster provided the following statement about it: It is disappointing that TOS 7 has been in beta since December, and this OOBE issue is still there. Shutdown option has moved Instead of a Taskbar option to manage the NAS, all of these options have been moved to a "Start panel", initially I didn't see it and my contact had to show me how to power off the F4-425 Pro. To logout, reboot or power off you can find those controls at the top right of the Panel. It is also possible to power off through the TNAS mobile app beta. Storage setup Above, you can see the steps I took to create the Storage Pools and Volumes. I made a second Storage Pool using TRAID on two 4TB MP44Q SSDs (which, in this instance, is similar to RAID 5), and finally, I added the 250GB 970 Evo Plus drive as Hyper Cache on Storage Pool 1 in Balanced mode. Registering If you decide not to lock down the F4-425 Pro in Security Isolation Mode (blocking all external connections), then you could set up a TNAS device ID through the Remote Access setting in the Control Panel (which must be unique). This works in combination with an online TerraMaster account. TOS 7 TNAS Online Creating a TerraMaster account and linking the device online activates the warranty when you provide proof of purchase and the serial number, but it also gives you access through the TNAS mobile app, which allows you to complete certain operationsб including powering off and restarting the NAS remotely. A TNAS mobile update is required to gain access through TOS 7, and this is provided on the TerraMaster website, as it is not yet on Google Play. The app is evolving all the time and has made leaps and bounds since I first started reviewing TerraMaster devices almost three years ago. It is not quite there yet if you are comparing the likes of Synology, which, sadly, a lot of users online do all the time. OpenClaw setup One of the main selling points of the new F4-425 Pro is the inclusion of OpenClaw, with TerraMaster claiming that it is "powered by the world's first AI-native TOS 7 OS, supporting local-first smart workflows and independent data control." However, I immediately ran into problems trying to enable OpenClaw. After waiting 20 minutes at the "Enabling" message of the OpenClaw app following installation, I decided to do some searching online and discovered that it couldn't complete the installation process due to SPC being enabled, which is something TOS 7 immediately recommends to be enabled on first boot. SPC for NAS (TOS 7) is basically the same principle as UAC in Windows; it blocks executables from being launched by non-Super Users. After reaching out to my contact about these issues, I received the following response: Anyway, this only became clear when I closed the OpenClaw app screen and clicked on the OpenClaw icon in the taskbar; that is when I saw the message about disabling SPC. I think, due to the fact that this is a requirement, this should be a prompt during the installation process, not when closing the App Market and then trying to launch OpenClaw. There's also no 'Getting started' guide for people like me who have never used OpenClaw. I tried to add an LLM and discovered the tutorial led nowhere. That's when I started looking around the official TerraMaster forums, and I found a guide that helpfully explains that you won't get anywhere with OpenClaw unless you have a paid plan, which is disappointing because I imagined there would be an option to use a local LLM as I do in SubtitleEdit with Whisper-XXL. In addition, with the marketing imagery on the official site, it says that the OpenClaw feature is "all processed 100% locally for absolute privacy." which led me to believe that I could install a local LLM, not one that required paid tokens. In any case, TerraMaster does not provide guidance for this new feature, which was also a selling point of the F4-425 Pro! My contact also provided clarification about the above points I raised with TerraMaster Since it is not in the scope of the review to add paid services, I'll leave that to the people who are more qualified with OpenClaw. F4-425 Pro Surveillance App TOS also comes with a Surveillance app, which is not installed by default; it can be found in the App Market recommended section. In addition, after installing, it doesn't drop a shortcut on the Desktop or top taskbar, but you can "Send to Desktop" from the App Market listing for the app for a quick way to open it. Adding my Reolink POE doorbell camera was painless. TerraMaster doesn't appear to have a repository of preconfigured cameras; instead, the camera must be added using ONVIF or RTSP. No mobile Surveillance app TerraMaster still doesn't have a dedicated Surveillance app, although from searching online, Surveillance can be used and managed through the TNAS mobile app. I tried this with the updated TNAS mobile app beta in combination with TOS 7 and got a message that Surveillance was "Only accessible through web browser," so I reckon this must be limited to the stable versions of TOS 6 and the mobile app. More quirks In addition, whenever I minimized the Live View window in the browser Surveillance app, the feed appeared to switch to the Low-bandwidth stream, and there was no way to get the High-quality stream back. To get the High-quality stream back, I had to close Live View and then reopen it. Benchmarking A pretty cool feature of the TOS 7 is that it allows you to install directly to the NVMe M.2 SSD. In order to do that, you would have to leave out any HDDs during initialization, and even then, the system partitions are always written to two HDDs when they are eventually added. With three NVMe slots, this also gives an interesting scenario where you could build a TRAID storage Pool for installing all your apps and Docker on, and keep the third for SSD cache on the HDD pool. Limitless options! SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 A CrystalDiskMark test on a mapped network drive from within a Windows 11 25H2 PC (image above) connected over a 5 GbE hub was well within acceptable ranges. Although the read result on SATA was a little less than with the F4-425 Plus, for some reason, while writes were generally better. SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 I also ran the NAS Performance tester, which tests the link speed performance. As you can see, it pretty much maxes out the 5GbE connection. Of course, you can also opt to bond the two 5 GbE connections for a bit more umph, but I didn't do that. TOS 7, which, as of testing, is still in Beta, comes with an App Center that has a bunch of handy programs you can install right off the bat, such as Emby, Plex, Docker, as well as in-house Backup and Surveillance solutions. As you can imagine, any media streaming services you would want to host off the F4-425 Pro will work great, thanks to the Intel Core N350 CPU and its 16 GB of DDR5 memory. Accessing from mobile is only possible if Security Isolation Mode is disabled, which can put your NAS at risk from external sources, so there was no way to access it from the TNAS Mobile app. It's also quiet. I had this sat next to my computer on my work desk for the past week, and I did wonder if the noise I was accustomed to with NAS devices would annoy me, but all I could hear was a soft whirring of the rear fan (which was a little annoying) when the disks were not actively copying or reading data. Conclusion So what have I learned? Unfortunately, this release raises a few important questions and concerns that I feel haven't been adequately addressed. What I didn't like Our variant shipped with TOS 7 beta, and it's advised not to use it in a production environment. I feel that's a bit limiting on an $800 device. The mobile app is also still in beta and does not support some of the first-party apps, like Surveillance, and it still has quite a few bugs. I am a bit confused about the OpenClaw marketing along with the F4-425 Pro. I feel like that if it's going to be a main selling point, then offer official guidance on how to get started with it. TerraMaster recommends enabling SPC, but then markets the NAS for use with OpenClaw, which requires disabling SPC to be able to use it, opening up genuine security concerns for the NAS; and that's before you get into the security concerns of OpenClaw itself. Of course, the above issues won't be a problem if you decide to install something else on it, or even go back to the stable TOS 6. I wish TerraMaster had just given TOS 7 as opt-in rather than shipping with it. TOS 7 has been available as a preview since December 2025 (so well before my last TerraMaster review), and according to a thread on Reddit where a user shared a screenshot from the TerraMaster Facebook page, it is scheduled to launch today, June 23, but there's nothing about that in the TerraMaster news blog. My contact confirmed over email that TOS 7 exits beta today. The rubber feet also deserve a mention as they continue to be a problem, with them coming unstuck the moment you shift the F4-425 Pro anywhere on your desk. What I liked What it comes down to, though, aside from what I already mentioned, you are still getting a quality, affordable device here, so recommending it will depend on the individual's use case. If you're just looking for a relatively small NAS device to manage virtual machines on, backup your files, and take care of your home theater streaming, then it is a great device that will certainly futureproof you for some time. It provides good performance, takes up little space, and is, on the whole, very quiet. Four bays afford proper redundancy using TRAID or RAID 5, and you can even expand on storage capacity by adding the 2-bay D5, or 4-bay D8 Hybrid DAS over a USB 3.2 (10Gbps) link. Considering the 2024 releases were more about power, with the likes of an Intel Core i5-1235U high-end laptop CPU under the hood, I asked my contact last time if we could expect more of the same in higher-end models and was told: It makes a lot of sense to use Intel's N350 chip inside a NAS; it is more than capable of doing what the F4-425 Pro is intended for, media streaming and backup. The only downside is still the clear lack of community and even staff support on the official forums. In the past, I have had topics go unanswered for days, or there would be generic-type "we've noted this and passed it onto our developer team" type responses. Along with the other things I mentioned, it all ends up costing it a couple of points. If you are comfortable with the command line, Docker, and setting up TrueNAS or Unraid, you'll be fine. You can do great things with this hardware. In TOS, the apps are a bit lacking, and things don't always work as expected.\ AI NAS?! What has become clear to me this year is that we are going to start seeing all kinds of "AI NAS" come to market, and while that might be good for us consumers, be diligent and research these claims. Although the F4-425 Pro technically comes with AI, it is really using a cloud service that is externally sourced off-device through the third party OpenClaw app. My colleague did review a newcomer to the NAS space earlier this year, and it includes a local AI assistant inside the Zettlab D4 NAS, and they do not even use AI in the product name, check out Chris' review here. Where to buy and a discount coupon However, it does not change the fact that this is truly a great entry-level home media-class NAS that you can buy right now. TerraMaster is having a 20% off launch discount, plus you can also still apply our unique 10% off coupon on checkout, which only works on the official website. So here is a breakdown of the pricing that is only valid on the official TerraMaster website. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $575.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $503.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £525.59 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £460.79 Use NEOWIN coupon code during checkout for 10% discount Over on Amazon US and UK, the F4-425 Pro also gets a 20% launch discount, but here, the above 10% coupon cannot be applied. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for $639.99 at Amazon US (was $799.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for $559.99 at Amazon US (was $699.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for £583.99 at Amazon UK (was £729.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for £511.99 at Amazon UK (was £639.99) As an Amazon Associate, when you purchase through links on our site, we earn from qualifying purchases.
    • well you can add a GPU for around $500, that's still around the price of Steam Machine but overall significantly better in performance.
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