What religion are you?

[Cuzzo]

Im sorry if i did offend some here :(

God gave us free choise(Spelled wrong?)

He wants us to fix things ourselfs,we cant blame him for things we do,come on :(

I think that he is very sad about all injustice and evil acts that happens around this globe.What do we know about all the things he has planed for us,we cant understand everything.Im really sad about all the wars and the por people that starvs everywhere.We must see what we can do to things in our areas, and to help poverty and starvation everywhere.

I can understand people who blame this and that,we often do.

Please,dont blame God for peoples actions,please

[Dessimat0r]

Cuzzo is 17, i think :)

I'm still 16, whats up with your spelling? :)

[sanctified Veteran]

Originally posted by Cuzzo

Im sorry if i did offend some here :(

God gave us free choise(Spelled wrong?)

He wants us to fix things ourselfs,we cant blame him for things we do,come on :(

I think that he is very sad about all injustice and evil acts that happens around this globe.What do we know about all the things he has planed for us,we cant understand everything.Im really sad about all the wars and the por people that starvs everywhere.We must see what we can do to things in our areas, and to help poverty and starvation everywhere.

I can understand people who blame this and that,we often do.

Please,dont blame God for peoples actions,please

read my last post, I confused you by other idiot who posted that bs about some "atheist" crimes, Im sorry for my responses to you, sincerely

[Keldyn]

Lets keep it relevant and civilized please. Else i will have to start kicking some asses. For those of you people who are so terribly offended by some of the opinions around here, then perhaps it is best you do not participate. Part of "mature" debate such as this is, that you are receptive to other peoples views. You do not have to accept them. Just appreciate that we all see things in a different way. They are not necessarily wrong, it is simply their view. Once you can see it from their side then you can better understand them and can begin contributing positively.

Thanks.

-Keldyn

[Ravager]

Agreed Keldyn. Check out HuRR's post by the way... interpret it as you wish and take appropriate action...

[Keldyn]

I saw it Ravager. Thing is, Hurr may actually be Jewish, and i cannot hold it against a guy for making a joke at his own expense can I? Until a remark is made that is clearly racist, i can do nothing more.

Thanx Ravager.

-Keldyn

[ahodes1]

Originally posted by Ravager

Agreed Keldyn. Check out HuRR's post by the way... interpret it as you wish and take appropriate action...

Yeah I think that post is far beyond just someone's views, and judging how its post #2 I'd say its a banned person re-registered to cause more havoc.

EDIT: Keldyn: I see your point but don't you think that's stretching it a bit too far?

[Keldyn]

In light of the multiple reports received concerning Hurr's post i have seen fit to remove it afterall.

Thanks guys.

-Keldyn

[aberflasm]

people have relationships with thier god of choice for many reasons. some because they are weak willed and need to believe that some one will make it right in the end. some because they need to belong o something. some becuase they need reason for everything. whatever anyones reason for believing in god or not is never wrong. we all come from the same monkey who first decided to stand up and walk on two legs. all religions teach the same morality. it's society that depicts religion as whatever it is. but god remains the same basically.

as far as god not being there when he is needed well that's not true. it's like the parent that warns the child to be careful of what it is doing and the child not caring does it anyway. if someone is blinded by negativity (or whatever your satan persona is) then it affects everyone because we are all one spiritually. god didn't turn a blind eye to the polish or jews during the holocaust. he helped to defeat evil. god isn't behind any one religion or people. god is with everyone who chooses not to deal the negativity.

god is not happy to see people arguing over him. true christian teachings as well as many other religions tell us not to insult anyone for what they say, do, or think. don't ever force your opinion on anyone. i don't think god whats you to worship him out of force, tradition, or convience. he wants to to believe in him because you want to.

athiests are not bad people anymore than christian, catholic, jew, muslim, sihk, etc...

[Cuzzo]

About my spelling,well,im not an American or a Canadian so some words will not have right spelling,sorry for that ;)

I have not used some words since i was at school.

No,im not 17.I dont put my real identity in registrations for security reasons only,sorry if some of you feel cheated by this.That is not my intention at all.

It makes me sad that some people actually want to cause harm to others,why?

Saintdark!

Why all this darkness?

I like to discuss,tell me!

[sanctified Veteran]

Originally posted by fizik3

that fear is what stops you from doing stupid ****. i believe all people who are atheistic are also inclined to pracitice devious sins (such as homicide, beastiality [:D ]). silly cokeheads. and if you take that offensively then consider my last post that got me banned ( where i felt something was offensive and spoke my mind of it ).

later guys, anthony

btw. i am Baptist and i believe in god and i fear him

k, keldyn, I have a question, who removed the ban of this loser?

also cuzzo, you still call us pathetics :s

[Cuzzo]

I dont understand your religion or ?

Please,forgive me?

But you think that we have a weak mind!!!

Explane that to me!

[sanctified Veteran]

Originally posted by Cuzzo

About my spelling,well,im not an American or a Canadian so some words will not have right spelling,sorry for that ;)

I have not used some words since i was at school.

No,im not 17.I dont put my real identity in registrations for security reasons only,sorry if some of you feel cheated by this.That is not my intention at all.

It makes me sad that some people actually want to cause harm to others,why?

Saintdark!

Why all this darkness?

I like to discuss,tell me!

dont take the darkness as something related to a religion, is part of my culture, Im commonly called as a goth, I like art and literature related to his culture scene, this is a totally different thing with the thread, if you want I can talk with you in pm, I repeat, dont take my attacks serously, I was taking you as other guy, read my last post

[aberflasm]

to all the bible buffs....

those of you who have actually studied the bible can you tell me how satan actually came to be? i've researched this myself and have found little. people give the story of how when god was on earth satan ruled heaven and became arrogant so god cast him out but i have never read this in the bible. i'm god fearing not satanic but i am curious about his true story. the catholic church has altered so many of christs teachings that im not sure if the traditonal story is factual. if not then what is?

[Cuzzo]

I dont understand everything,i admit that!

Are you a satanist?

Explane,please and if then why?

[sanctified Veteran]

Originally posted by Cuzzo

I dont understand everything,i admit that!

Are you a satanist?

Explane,please and if then why?

no, Im atheist, inclined for some agnostic ideas and for some satanist ideas, but just only the ethical ideas, for example, for the satanist religion is a sin hurt people, be ignorant and also if you are wise and smart you need to share your knowledge with others)

[Ravager]

Originally posted by Cuzzo

I dont understand your religion or ?

Please,forgive me?

But you think that we have a weak mind!!!

Explane that to me!

I don't recall anyone saying Catholics or anyone with a religion has a weak mind...

[aberflasm]

satanism is a stereotype of goths. it's like saying all black people like to eat chicken and watermelon or all white people are rednecks. i don't have time anymore to be goth or hip hop or country but i used to be goth and have always believed in god. thru out my life i tried diferent christian churches but never found one that taught all of what i believe.

and most satanists i have come across are not the evil people we imagine. they belief system is basically psychology with a twist. only teenage heavy metal kids who are rebelling against the world at large are the ones who talk of baby sacrifices. before you hate some one for what they believe, find out exactly what they believe. you may learn something.

religion is phylosophy (spelling?) so keep an open mind with it.

[sanctified Veteran]

Originally posted by Ravager

I don't recall anyone saying Catholics or anyone with a religion has a weak mind...

I was, It was missundertood, I call weak minds to those people who starts to explain everything with the word god and dont open their minds to other possibilities

[Ravager]

Originally posted by [saint dark]

I was, It was missundertood, I call weak minds to those people who starts to explain everything with the word god and dont open their minds to other possibilities

Ah, understood.

[Cuzzo]

I wont go in to those things simply because i have a lot to learn.

Its always a risc that over such a long period of time when man is involved things can be altered,yes.I think that most of it is true.Some stories can be questionable,maybe romantisized.

I still belive that almost everything happened.I think that they had a special way of telling stories way back.They probably added some fiction,just a little to spce it up.Maybe im wrong or right?

I just know that im different now and i feel that i have also been chosen.I know that some people laughs at me or my belifs.I cant say more than that really hurts :(

I was a non beliver before,yes!

I thought that everything was crap and lies,fiction.

I some of you only could understand the transformation that i go thru.

People who have known me for years say that im not the same person anymore,I thank God and Jesus for never giving up on me!

I fight evil every day!

Evil can never win,Evil is alone!

[Ravager]

Cuzzo... I respect your beliefs but I think you're overreacting... greatly.

[Cuzzo]

Overreacting?

In what?

[devobitch]

Originally posted by aberflasm

to all the bible buffs....

those of you who have actually studied the bible can you tell me how satan actually came to be? i've researched this myself and have found little. people give the story of how when god was on earth satan ruled heaven and became arrogant so god cast him out but i have never read this in the bible. i'm god fearing not satanic but i am curious about his true story. the catholic church has altered so many of christs teachings that im not sure if the traditonal story is factual. if not then what is?

i can answer this from the bible

The Scriptures indicate that the creature known as Satan did not always have that name. Rather, this descriptive name was given to him because of his taking a course of opposition and resistance to God. The name he had before this is not given. God is the only Creator, and ?his activity is perfect,? with no injustice or unrighteousness. (De 32:4) Therefore, the one becoming Satan was, when created, a perfect, righteous creature of God. He is a spirit person, for he appeared in heaven in the presence of God. (Job chaps 1, 2; Re 12:9) Jesus Christ said of him: ?That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him.? (Joh 8:44; 1Jo 3:8) Jesus here shows that Satan was once in the truth, but forsook it. Beginning with his first overt act in turning Adam and Eve away from God, he was a manslayer, for he thereby brought about the death of Adam and Eve, which, in turn, brought sin and death to their offspring. (Ro 5:12) Throughout the Scriptures the qualities and actions attributed to him could be attributed only to a person, not to an abstract principle of evil. It is clear that the Jews, and Jesus and his disciples, knew that Satan existed as a person.

So, from a righteous, perfect start, this spirit person deviated into sin and degradation. The process bringing this about is described by James when he writes: ?Each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin; in turn, sin, when it has been accomplished, brings forth death.? (Jas 1:14, 15) In the course that Satan took, there seems to be, in some respects, a parallel with that of the king of Tyre as described in Ezekiel 28:11-19.?See PERFECTION (The first sinner and the king of Tyre).

The Scriptural account, therefore, makes it plain that it was Satan who spoke through the medium of a serpent, seducing Eve into disobedience to God?s command. In turn, Eve induced Adam to take the same rebellious course. (Ge 3:1-7; 2Co 11:3) As a consequence of Satan?s use of the serpent, the Bible gives Satan the title ?Serpent,? which came to signify ?deceiver?; he also became ?the Tempter? (Mt 4:3) and a liar, ?the father of the lie.??Joh 8:44; Re 12:9

now look up the sited scriptures as you read this so you know this is what it says

later

[aberflasm]

thanx devo***** i will look into that. i know that the first appearance of the word satan is during the story of david. it is mentioned once and very vaguely.