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Not in the UK and probably the rest of Europe. Almost all BB modems in the UK are USB for some reason.

Dear god, some people...<shakes head>

You're given a free modem by your ISP - tell them you'll use your own, go out, purchase a NIC based ADSL modem, and you'll receive a credit on your account; the one I use, US Robotics 9105 is compatible with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand phone systems.

Same situation in New Zealand; ADSL modems provided are the alcheapo dlink ones with a NIC and USB port by Xtra/Telecom - having seen how **** it is, I told them I'd provide my own, I received a $99.95 discount on my bill.

So yes, you can replace your ADSL modem, its just that most end users are too stupid to put their brain into gear.

Total Bull****. Direct X 10 would require Direct X 10 hardware to use any new features. You think Aero Glass would require video card solutions that don't even exist in the market yet ?

*gives ev0 a deep and passionate kiss*

Nvidia's G73 GPU is already DX10 compatible, and I think that there are some ATI product that are too; the specifications for DirectX have been known for quite some time - the specifications get written FIRST then the code is implemented; so it is possible to have DirectX 10 compatible cards shipping already.

I've seen Vista on a Compaq Armada M700 (P3 749MHz, 478mb RAM, ATI rage 8MB) So you shouldn't have a problem.

at work......500MHz, 512 ram, intel integrated video

runs rather smoth too

what does (X64) means?

and

what does (X86) means?

I maybe know (X64) is server and (X86) client OS, but where their name come from and why (X86) and (X64)?

Nope... X64 is for 64-bit enabled processors, and X86 is for general 32-bit processors :)

*gives ev0 a deep and passionate kiss*

Nvidia's G73 GPU is already DX10 compatible, and I think that there are some ATI product that are too; the specifications for DirectX have been known for quite some time - the specifications get written FIRST then the code is implemented; so it is possible to have DirectX 10 compatible cards shipping already.

So what does that mean in terms of performance and raw gaming power? I know that the current Intel Core Duo processors can run Vista just fine but I still prefer to wait. With so much new technology coming out before Vista is released and with the inclusion of Windows SideShow in notebooks running Vista, would current graphic cards deliver enough power to run Vista at an optimal rate and still showcase the power of Vista?

Whatever the answer, I'm still willing to wait for a true Vista enable notebook even if it takes a long time as I do not have a very large budget. Couple with the fact that it is almost impossible to upgrade your notebooks graphic card so I rather wait even if I have to suffer for a bit for having a slower computer for the next nine months :D .

PSG22

Well, so far nothing revolutionary in 5342 but I guess that's what to be expected. Incremental improvements in things such as the minimize/maximize animation; minimized windows appears out of the taskbar at an angle and zoom up to front & center, seems smoother and a bit more prounounced than before. When logging in, MS is still attempting to fade out the login screen and fade in to the desktop. But at this point, the desktop still flashes to the point of destroying the intended effect. I'm sure it will improve. A few new gadgets there however I had no luck in specifying a folder location for the picture viewer gadget. Anyone else have this issue? I installed Office 12 on 5342 and so far seems to have taken a step backward in stability. Outlook in particular crashes regularly when specifying previews to the right of the message pane using an Exchange 2003 profile and MSN connector. O12 on 5308 in similar usage scenarios seemed better behaved. The large memory footprint is still there, that shouldn't be too surprising at this stage either. This version of media player includes more sample media content with ratings and such pre-applied. Looking nice. The upside-down animated "V" is more prevalent in this build as well, an example being the Welcome Center. Some lower res sample pictures are available in User/Public/Public Pictures and lots of "placeholder" jpegs abound. There's also more sample video media. Aero-glass is still identical to previous builds. When using Flip-3D, the blank desktop appears in the 3d view of windows now, I don't remember seeing that before but I could be wrong. I didn't notice any difference in backgrounds or screensavers. The ten minute hard drive grind fest is gone when first logging in when in previous builds Defrag and indexing commenced. Strangely, as in 5308 the "Reliability Monitor" is gone as a choice in the Computer Management MMC. You need to launch mmc.exe and add it as a snap-in. The defrag console is also gone from the Computer Management MMC. Overall, 5308 is 95% of what 5342 is. It's not a must have upgrade unless there's enhanced driver support for a particular piece of hardware. I'm running a single Dell D810 and everything worked as in previous builds, so I can't comment on increased HW support/drivers. Anyway, sorry for the rambling post, but hope this is helpful to those wondering about 5342.

babe, the stability of Office HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STABILITY OF THE OPERATING SYTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't want to sound like an AOL, but it ****es me off something stupid when I see MORONS like the above individual try to make out that application stability equates to operating system stability!

Office 2007 has been refreshed but they're STILL working on Windows Vista compatibility! Wait till RC1 of Office 2007, then possibly bitch and whinge when Office isn't stable and even THEN it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OPERATING SYSTEM AND EVERYTHIGN TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL APPLICATION!

So what does that mean in terms of performance and raw gaming power? I know that the current Intel Core Duo processors can run Vista just fine but I still prefer to wait. With so much new technology coming out before Vista is released and with the inclusion of Windows SideShow in notebooks running Vista, would current graphic cards deliver enough power to run Vista at an optimal rate and still showcase the power of Vista?

Whatever the answer, I'm still willing to wait for a true Vista enable notebook even if it takes a long time as I do not have a very large budget. Couple with the fact that it is almost impossible to upgrade your notebooks graphic card so I rather wait even if I have to suffer for a bit for having a slower computer for the next nine months :D .

PSG22

It means, don't assume because a video card is shipping today, it isn't DirectX 10 compatible.

Assuming this is your main computing rig, I would wait till Vista is released, and take advantage of the dual core, 64bit processor for laptop - now, sure you may not need those 64bits, but at the same time, its one of those things of 'future proofing' yourself; couple that with an eventual 7900GTX for laptops by then, it'll be smarter to wait.

As for a desktop, I'd still wait personally, there are some good things around the corner from AMD and Intel, so best to wait, grab those, even before Vista is launched, then make the migration.

It means, don't assume because a video card is shipping today, it isn't DirectX 10 compatible.

Assuming this is your main computing rig, I would wait till Vista is released, and take advantage of the dual core, 64bit processor for laptop - now, sure you may not need those 64bits, but at the same time, its one of those things of 'future proofing' yourself; couple that with an eventual 7900GTX for laptops by then, it'll be smarter to wait.

As for a desktop, I'd still wait personally, there are some good things around the corner from AMD and Intel, so best to wait, grab those, even before Vista is launched, then make the migration.

That is the main reason I'm waiting - 64-Bit. I'm a multimedia student and currently on my notebook I've got Adobe (Acrobat, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere), Macromedia (Director, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Flash), Microsoft Office, Microsoft Visual Studio, 3D Studio Max, LightWave 3D, Maya Unlimited, Sony Sound Forge and a host of other software that I can't remember.

With Intel releasing Quad Core in the first half of next year, 64-Bit support, perpendicular storage and Vista around the corner, I want to take advantage as I always set at least 3 years for a notebook to survive and run well with each software revision. My Compaq Presario X1000 have serve me well for the past 3 years but it is starting to age. But I'm someone who is willing to wait for something that I feel it is worth my attention, hence my best purchase is my current notebook.

So I really do need 64-Bit but I'm a very patient person and not easily induce into panic buys :D .

PSG22

interesting :D

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That looks horrible. :no: It's just weird to place toolbar buttons on the titlebar especially with that ugly curve in it.

If they moved those save, undo/redo buttons to the space where it says "Report Rendering Problem", remove the insanely large Office logo + weird curve and make the transparent borders go all round the window (like everywhere in Vista) it could look decent.

That looks horrible. :no: It's just weird to place toolbar buttons on the titlebar especially with that ugly curve in it.

If they moved those save, undo/redo buttons to the space where it says "Report Rendering Problem" and make the transparent borders go all round the window (like everywhere in Vista) it could look decent.

i personally like that

Well, PSG22, Quad-Core desktop chips are only shipping early 2007 (Kentsfield), and you will have to wait a bit more for a QC laptop chip.

As I said, I'm a very patient person ;) . As for Office 2007 on Windows Vista, I agree that I don't quite like the look of transparency effect on the window. I think Office 2007 transparency needs a bit more work for it to look visually nice. This is however just my opinion.

PSG22

I'd have rather seen an office color scheme along the lines of Windows Live Messenger. The icy bluish white would be perfect for an office app. I don't know why Microsoft has such an obsession with black and blue. All the designers must be emo teens.

I think it looks really good. :)

well count me in too :)

anyway the time taken to install build 5342 on my system is cut almost by half compared to build 5308..

and at last, my ageing TV card which was manufactured some time early in this millenium

seems to be working just fine in this build, i'm really surprised.

also my audigy (1) sound card is working just fine with the vista driver released by creative.

no more BSOD during shutdown /restart ...

and now waiting for monday morning (March 27) Redmond time,

MS gonna fix activation server to accept the new product key.

well count me in too :)

anyway the time taken to install build 5342 on my system is cut almost by half compared to build 5308..

and at last, my ageing TV card which was manufactured some time early in this millenium

seems to be working just fine in this build, i'm really surprised.

also my audigy (1) sound card is working just fine with the vista driver released by creative.

no more BSOD during shutdown /restart ...

and now waiting for monday morning (March 27) Redmond time,

MS gonna fix activation server to accept the new product key.

PLEASE respond me: The driver for Audigi (it) is installed normally ('via Setup') or via Update Driver from Device Manager ????

{+main sound card is Audigi 1.} :blink: :unsure:

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