Apple release new "Get a Mac" ads

[mujjuman]

what i dont understand too much is why are people having flame wars over what OSes to use? use whatevr the hell you want, but come to Neowin for support issues. :doctor: :iiam:

[Bawx]

That is compared to the supplier of my old computer, Compaq, which seemed to never give a care in the world about the issues I had. I have had such good luck with my PowerBook, my good fortune alone has convinced my mom and dad, as well as several friends to get Macs for their next computers.

I've had my Compaq for 4 or 5 years, not one single problem, unless I caused it myself.

Actually, I think we're supposed to buy them. Talking about them negatively doesn't make Apple any money. ;)

Got ya there.

I think the Comic Ctrl- Alt- Del said it best

LMFAO (Y)

[Vice]

Any time anything apple related is posted on Neowin it turns into a big load of chaos with hurt feelings lots of between the lines personal attacks and over the counter flaming.

It's times like these that I wish the people who don't like the Apple news just keep there comments to themselves instead of causing conflict. Every time anything Windows or Linux related is posted you never get this type of backlash.

[Matt T]

Any time anything apple related is posted on Neowin it turns into a big load of chaos with hurt feelings lots of between the lines personal attacks and over the counter flaming.

It's times like these that I wish the people who don't like the Apple news just keep there comments to themselves instead of causing conflict. Every time anything Windows or Linux related is posted you never get this type of backlash.

That was the best post in the entire thread.

[Mathiasdm]

Err... Under what rock have you been hiding, WinMacLin?

Every time something gets posted about Linux, we get:

-Linux is not ready for the desktop

-Linux is for gay hippy communist liberals

Every time something gets posted about Vista, we get:

-Vista took way too long

-Vista doesn't have any features

-Micro$oft (notice the '$') sucks

I think the only non-inflammatory Operating System on this site is BSD (and I say: 'I think).

[Joel]

Desperate? Link time again, but I promise no more than a couple this time... ;)

The first two are admittedly Mac sites, but referencing independant sources as their basis for the growth projections.

Analyst Sees Apple Poised for Strong Growth

They've been predicting this massive growth for years, and it never pans out.

as for the i'm lovin it - thats Mc donalds . they dont sell delli sandwhichs.

unless you know something we dont know :huh:

http://mcdonalds.ca/en/food/tds.aspx

Every time anything Windows or Linux related is posted you never get this type of backlash.

Wanna bet? And, if anything negative is posted about Apple's ways, the Mac trolls climb out also to defend Apple to the death. And the defense is usually along the lines of. "MS sucks worse!!!", so as you can see the mentality is the same as in the commercials.

"Bash MS, so that you ignore the truth behind our claims of superiority."

[xxdesmus]

I think the Comic Ctrl- Alt- Del said it best

*snip*

That is the funniest thing I have seen all week (Y) :yes:

[Konstanov]

MMMM virus for OS X.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcen...h.renepo.b.html

I would like my house to be in Wisconsin please and thank you.

[andresjk]

why mac always is making fun of PCs, if they are PCs too, or not? anyway mac has a lot of disadvantages in comparison to MS and compatible PCs and they dont make fun of mac...

poor mac they can not acept that 95% of the ppl prefers Win xD

[John S. Veteran]

MMMM virus for OS X.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcen...h.renepo.b.html

I would like my house to be in Wisconsin please and thank you.

:laugh: 0-50 infections and 2 years old? woahh that's an outbreak

[mujjuman]

they have viruses out for Linux and Mac, but they are only very few that are out there, and its pretty hard to get an infection.

the only reason why Windows has viruses and malware is because there are sick people ou tthere disassembling the OS and spending days and days of research to find vulnerabilities, etc.

if 95% of the people suddenly switched to Mac before Vista comes out, Mac will get flooded with spyware and viruses etc as well, and Vista would be "virus free", provided that the older viruses from older Windows versions do not affect it.

[iconoclast]

I still don't see how this is news.

[Matt T]

I still don't see how this is news.

It was news until it was hijacked by trolls.

[kombolcha]

the irony of #4 on their list.. 144,000 viruses... but on the commercial, you can dual boot :rolleyes:

[Joel]

It was news until it was hijacked by trolls.

Actually, it was never really news. And trolls live on both sides of the fence, remember.

Imagine if PC makers got together and released a commercial that had the same setup but the Mac is saying, "I've got this, and that, and the other, and I do this better, and that better, and blah blah blah", and the PC looks at him and says, "You're quite full of yourself, aren't you?".

Seriously, if a main point is that you can use it out of the box, there's no argument. Both can be used out of the box, a claim which is proved by almost every PC user every day. Do you really think that people who order from Dell sit there uninstalling ANYTHING? They just use it the way it is.

I always wonder why Apple fans defend the company so much, considering they tell you they target the lowest common denominator in the intelligence area. I mean, if Ellen Feiss is a Mac champion... I'm a Windows user; can someone tell me that because I administer Windows boxes I WOULD be proficient in my Mac use after 10 minutes or so? Because if their claim is that it's so much easier to use, it should be easier to learn. They can't be targetting non-computer users, because how many of those are there anymore? So their target is existing users of a computer (most likely Windows).

[Hais]

Is it just me or when he say 'Im a Mac' he says it in a really depressing way every damn time?

[xxdesmus]

Actually, it was never really news. And trolls live on both sides of the fence, remember.

Yeah, it definitely was never news...sorry my friend. :whistle:

That would be like saying "Oh look! There's a new Windows commercial...it's just not nearly that big of deal.

[Denis W. Veteran]

can someone tell me that because I administer Windows boxes I WOULD be proficient in my Mac use after 10 minutes or so? Because if their claim is that it's so much easier to use, it should be easier to learn.

Like learning anything new there is a significant learning curve when going from one thing to the other.

If Apple really thinks Mac is so easy to use... well let's see. I had a media arts class which was held in a lab of eMacs. It took at least a week or two before the "How do I do X and Y on this friggin Mac" questions came to a halt amongst my mates.

It's easy for one to say something is simple to use if they're proficient to them. This applies for both PC and Mac users. The problems lies on the fact that they automatically assume everyone will be like them. This is exactly what the marketing heads at Apple are trying to force onto everyone that watches their ads - that there is barely any learning curve.

So for the question of "is learning how to use a Mac easier than using a PC" can never be answered, as the answers that come out of that question are always based off personal opinions - opinions that are never applicable to all.

[PyX]

Well since the last two years, Apple are being more aggressie than ever to win more market shares... Apple is just trying to change the way we look at Macs because many people talk about it like they don't even know what it is - it has changed over the past 5 years, nobody can deny it. 5 years ago, I remember myself in high school saying that the mac I was using sucked more than any other computer in my life. Now I am replying on an Mac... how ironic.

The worse is that most of these ads are true, even if totally biased. There's no virus, it's out of the box, there's no registry, it's much more appealing to the eye, there's already a bunch of preinstalled applications so that you can make music, video and all (Garageband being my favorite application)

Oh and actually, Macs ARE easier to use. I juste hate the way the applications have separated windows like dreamweaver, office and photoshop, while in Windows it's one wndows that contains everything. Let's see how many people will criticize my post because they hate Macs :D I'll be counting.

[FlibbyFlobby]

I just noticed this article on the Apple website actually:

No Hunting for Drivers.

at the bottom of the article it reads:

"In fact, the packaging for the product may not even mention the Mac, but if it connects to a computer via such industry-standard methods as USB, FireWire, Ethernet, or Bluetooth, it?s likely to just work. And on those rare occasions when the Mac doesn?t have a driver for a particular device, you should be able to find it quickly simply by visiting the manufacturer?s website or by Googling for it. Just type ?Mac OS X? and the name of the product in the Google search bar (conveniently located at the top of the Safari web browser in Mac OS X), and a few seconds later, you?ll have your driver downloaded and installed."

So much for :laugh:ing. :laugh:

[mujjuman]

I just noticed this article on the Apple website actually:

No Hunting for Drivers.

at the bottom of the article it reads:

"In fact, the packaging for the product may not even mention the Mac, but if it connects to a computer via such industry-standard methods as USB, FireWire, Ethernet, or Bluetooth, it?s likely to just work. And on those rare occasions when the Mac doesn?t have a driver for a particular device, you should be able to find it quickly simply by visiting the manufacturer?s website or by Googling for it. Just type ?Mac OS X? and the name of the product in the Google search bar (conveniently located at the top of the Safari web browser in Mac OS X), and a few seconds later, you?ll have your driver downloaded and installed."

So much for :laugh:ing. :laugh:

how hard is it to do that? its simple. theyre just telling you taht you can drivers that way JUST INCASE.

and just to let you know (so that you dont think im a Mac fanboy) i use Windows XP and i have used Mac before and it really is easier to use.

the things i like about most Linux distros and Mac are:

1. out of box useability (many more applications)

2. very few viruses and spyware and malware

for Windows, you always have to (and should) set up everything as soon as you finish a clean install. then you spend hours downloading/installing and setting all those up as well.

but i can agree that at times Linux can be very difficult to use and setting Linux up can sometimes be too hard for me.

[Adam_Brown]

This whole thing is really stupid. When I bought my mac, I didnt buy it to play games on, i bought it to do work on, I personaly dont see my computer as a gamer station, its a tool to do work, if i want to play games, I'll go and buy a Xbox or PS3, (or Wii as im going to get). I find the argument about 'pcs and macs and wich one is better' stupid. Fine Mac's can now run windows. So what. For what ever reason apple did this it sure as hell wasnt so people could play games on the mac! I care not about the grapics card or the processer. My mac,and my other 2 computers are all Work machines. nothing more nothing less.

[FlibbyFlobby]

how hard is it to do that? its simple. theyre just telling you taht you can drivers that way JUST INCASE.

and just to let you know (so that you dont think im a Mac fanboy) i use Windows XP and i have used Mac before and it really is easier to use.

the things i like about most Linux distros and Mac are:

1. out of box useability (many more applications)

2. very few viruses and spyware and malware

for Windows, you always have to (and should) set up everything as soon as you finish a clean install. then you spend hours downloading/installing and setting all those up as well.

but i can agree that at times Linux can be very difficult to use and setting Linux up can sometimes be too hard for me.

How could Windows ever be ready out of the box? Its illegal for them to bundle even a fart with Windows let alone an application. The article says no hunting for drivers, then tells you how to hunt for them, its called a contradiction. :p

[[LOF]skinnylegs]

I always wonder why Apple fans defend the company so much, considering they tell you they target the lowest common denominator in the intelligence area.

This is a perfect example of someone who feels a need to say something but really doesn't have anything to say. ;)

I just recently purchased a 20" iMac so I think I speak from experience when I say that Macs *definately* have more to offer out-of-the-box. iPhoto, iTunes, iWeb, iMovie HD and iDVD are all outstanding applications and they integrate seamlessly.

I recently made a 30-minute movie incorporating pictures, video and music with iMovie HD and it was a breeze. Afterwards, I exported the movie to iDVD and created a DVD which played back flawlessly on my standard DVD player. Can you do this with Windows XP's bundled apps? Nope. To begin with, Windows Movie Maker is really really buggy and prone to crashes. Once again, I speak from experience because I used WMM to make a movie for my daughter last year. If you don't believe what a PITA it is to work with WMM, hit the Windows Movie Maker forums and see for yourself. Secondly, WMM does not provide for burning to a DVD. You need 3rd party software to do this after, and only after, you spend hours trying to convert your WMM file into a format that will actually burn to a DVD.

I also recently used iWeb to create a website incorporating both pictures and video. iWeb uses templates which allow guys like myself who have absoluely no interest whatsover in learning coding to create a very professional looking website. XP offers absolutely nothing in terms of website creation.

I understand that MS is limited as to what apps. they can bundle with their OS 'cause heaven forbid they step on some other software manufacturer's toes. That said, they 'kinda screw up many of the apps. they *do* bundle with their OS which doesn't make for a great out-of-the-box experience.

BTW....before you label me "one of those Mac dudes", I should say that I also own a desktop PC and an Alienware Media Center PC both of which I love. ;)

[MrCobra]

OSX will work on any PC, but wat kind of hardware support do you get ? none, that is what. ever tried a patched OSX install, yes it will work fine, but have any sort of graphics card other than specific Ati Ones and the computer goes into a freak out and restricts resolutions to 1024 x 768 and below, with no QE and QC.

Network support ? Nil pwah on any format other than an Intel platform, which basically makes sense because apple use an intel platform.

UNLESS you have an INTEL platform with a ATI graphics card OSX will not work properly. IF you decide to use AMD X2 chips, and DFI mobo's and a nVidia graphics cards, nothing works.

Built-in sound works, but thats about it.

I aint flaming OSX, but it would take a hell of a lot of dev work to get it booting on a PC properly, with full hardware support.

And about the BSOD bull****, i've had many rigs in my time, all overclocked to the high hills, and never had a BSOD. An Apple mac crashes in XP becuase it is not meant to run XP, at all, nothing to do with the newness of the hardware, as a Conroe Engineering Sample at 4+Ghz will run perfectly with a 7950GX2, so it has nothing to do with hardware.

Since this is a windows forum, most people will argue that the ads are crap, which imo they are, as right now i have my web editing suite open, along with Apache Web Server, Mcafee AV and firewall, and MSN Live Messenger.

Using 370mb of memory. Dont get me wrong, MAC's are nice toys, but windows machines are for power users that like to game, yet want the option to also be productive.

OSX on an AMD X2 system with gForce graphics runs just fine.

I have found more often than not, from my own experience and others that those BSOD are generally from shoddy hardware and less than competent drivers.

XP crashing on a Mac is not because Macs are not meant to run XP. It's because of the BETA drivers that Apple provides for interfacing the hardware to XP.