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The majority of that, though, is Windows Defender definition updates, which you can get on WinXP. There's one update to Rc1, and beyond that not much.

ALL of the blame lies with the hardware vendor. If everyone here can get a decently current copy, so can they. It's not up to Microsoft to ride the vendors, it's your job! Vote with your feet and your wallet, or go pro-active and kick up a fuss, but not here!

Sorry, but I disagree. Vote with your wallet? Neither ATI nor nVidia has come out with a proper driver for dual video card support. Microsoft has enough influence to get on them and push them to release proper drivers so that the community can test them before RTM. If buggy drivers come out during final release, people will complain that they weren't tested earlier. But you are just as willing to give them a free pass for not bothering to come out with a driver in the testing stage.

The majority of that, though, is Windows Defender definition updates, which you can get on WinXP. There's one update to Rc1, and beyond that not much.

Sorry, but I disagree. Vote with your wallet? Neither ATI nor nVidia has come out with a proper driver for dual video card support. Microsoft has enough influence to get on them and push them to release proper drivers so that the community can test them before RTM. If buggy drivers come out during final release, people will complain that they weren't tested earlier. But you are just as willing to give them a free pass for not bothering to come out with a driver in the testing stage.

1. I'm pretty impressed they do give out updates for a beta os actually :)

2. Why would you think Microsoft is not pushing ATI/NVidia to roll out new/proper drivers? Ofcourse they are.

I would like to see most of the things already mentioned, most importantly new nVidia drivers.

I have a feeling though there will be very minimal additions in this build compared to 5728, and we'll all end up disappointed again and have to wait until RTM until sounds etc are in.

I'm not too interested in SLI (well... I am...) but I wouldn't mind being able to just complete the installation with my 7950GX2.

I know NVIDIA are to blame (apparently) but MS still has a useless driver in all their recent builds... what's wrong with "Standard VGA Controller" anyway ? :p

I'm not too interested in SLI (well... I am...) but I wouldn't mind being able to just complete the installation with my 7950GX2.

I know NVIDIA are to blame (apparently) but MS still has a useless driver in all their recent builds... what's wrong with "Standard VGA Controller" anyway ? :p

I hope at least AA and AF will work this time on.

I can't see that being any different, you can't get it to work in 96.33 can you? At least that lets Vista recognise a 7950GX2, even if they use that driver to get us into Windows, that'd be fine.

NVIDIA doesn't have anything newer than 96.33 do they? so AA and AF are going to be exactly the same :/

Not only you have to burn the ISO at nearly 1x to have no install errors, using DVD-RW is a complete no-go. It never worked well for me. I only use DVD-R

I've done all mine at max speed on a single DVD+RW. Everyone burn has been perfect.

dvd-r are soo cheap these days- its like ?9 for a 50-pk of 16x dvd-r's.

looking at that seattle clock - its only just hitting 10pm and its 6am in the uk- boohoo..:(( MS should release everything at GMT- same with apple and any worldwide release of a product:pp just imagine- a PS3 at GMT, Vista on shelves at GMT time:DD bah im just dreaming...

I think it's a damn good idea. I have no idea how all the US timezones are offset from UTC. But I know how local time is offset from UTC. We're either 12 or 13 hours ahead. First to see the sun.

skinnylegs' date='Oct 6 2006, 11:53' post='587933623']

IM(not so)HO, Vista's UI looks like a bad Windowblinds port. They could deliver it on my doorstep and I wouldn't install it.

This is the wrong thread to comment on your dislike of the OS. See the trolls thread lower down ;)

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