Puzzle Box 2

[ZuniTribal]

another side thing. I realize our LO KI has japanese ties to the fox, etc but...

in canonese LO KI is synonymous with girlfriend.

my guess is that the window we all need to find might be a popup window that perhaps directs one to a special URL on the site.

[kukatush]

I'm guessing that Loke vanishes at the Seattle event at Gas Works park. If any of you are in the area, they're planning a big celebration(over 21) and if you've ever been to a MS party - you wont want to miss it. Just get there early to find parking!!

If a big event was planned they must have had to pull a permit or get permission of some sort. All in the interest of public safety. Just a thought.

[akitakoi]

We do know that the picture on the puzzle box pages have to do with the clues.

Does anyone know these buildings?

There are 5 of them, I would believe that they must be in each city a clue will be given.

Lets find out about them.

[Tha14thSpade]

another side thing. I realize our LO KI has japanese ties to the fox, etc but...

in canonese LO KI is synonymous with girlfriend.

my guess is that the window we all need to find might be a popup window that perhaps directs one to a special URL on the site.

BETTER DISABLE YOUR POP-UP Blockers!!!! :|

[_eXile_]

Hi,

I just wanted to say that there are some hidden regions in the flash file. And you D-Chiper, please be a little bit more patient, because not everybody likes capslock :p

Back to the flash skript. There are four extraordinary areas visible:

1. Text "start"

2. Text "encryptionTestText"

3. Template for the other buttons.

4. Image of an gearwheel.

But, well I think this is only because the designer of the page worked negligent ;)

PS: That "theoretically solved white boxes puzzle"-picture was made by me :)

PS2: URL is http://assets.vanishingpointgame.com/shell.swf?weekparam=1

Greetings,

eXile.

[akitakoi]

Good catch eXile but just leftover stuff from the page designer.

Edit: The idea I had has already been done over here http://vanishingpointwiki.com/wiki/Countdowns

Edited January 19, 2007 by akitakoi

[kukatush]

Looking ahead. Does anyone have additional insight into any artistic meaning of the sundial at the Gas Works Park site in Seattle?

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From the Seattle Times

Chuck Greening, with Kim Lazare, also created the poetic "Gasworks Memorial Sundial" situated on one of the city's most spectacular viewpoints. Atop a grassy mound at the former industrial site that is now Gasworks Park at the north end of Lake Union, the sundial is a glorious thing, part ancient science, part magic. It's a mosaic circle of concrete and aggregate, embedded with seashells, marbles, bronze stars, fish emblems, bits of colored glass, astrological symbols and a great blossom like the navel of the world. You can actually use it to tell time, placing your own body as the gnomon (indicator): A plaque provides instructions. Since it was installed in 1978 (paid for by an anonymous donor) a few bits of the mosaic have come off and the sculpture has been used as an ashtray.

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I have not found a good photo of the actual sundial yet. Just the description plaque.

"People disappear..." at this location. Modo100 is onto something.

Edited January 19, 2007 by kukatush

[confusio]

We do know that the picture on the puzzle box pages have to do with the clues.

Does anyone know these buildings?

There are 5 of them, I would believe that they must be in each city a clue will be given.

Lets find out about them.

Nothing new, they are the sites related to the coordinates for this week but here are place by place.

Hockey Hall of Fame, Toronto, Canada.

Brandenburg Gate, Berlin, Germany.

Palace of Fine Arts Theatre, San Francisco, CA, USA

Victoria Theatre, Singapore

Trafalgar Square, London, UK

My .02

Cheers

[akitakoi]

Looking ahead. Does anyone have additional insight into any artistic meaning of the sundial at the Gas Works Park site in Seattle?

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From the Seattle Times

Chuck Greening, with Kim Lazare, also created the poetic "Gasworks Memorial Sundial" situated on one of the city's most spectacular viewpoints. Atop a grassy mound at the former industrial site that is now Gasworks Park at the north end of Lake Union, the sundial is a glorious thing, part ancient science, part magic. It's a mosaic circle of concrete and aggregate, embedded with seashells, marbles, bronze stars, fish emblems, bits of colored glass, astrological symbols and a great blossom like the navel of the world. You can actually use it to tell time, placing your own body as the gnomon (indicator): A plaque provides instructions. Since it was installed in 1978 (paid for by an anonymous donor) a few bits of the mosaic have come off and the sculpture has been used as an ashtray.

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I have not found a good photo of the actual sundial yet. Just the description plaque.

"People disappear..." at this location. Modo100 is onto something.

Good catch kukatush, not sure if it means anything, maybe.

Here are more pictures http://echoes.devin.com/gallery/SeattleOct2003

[D-Cipher]

TO: JeffDeff .........well....you're just stressing a little TOO much about this thing. In a discussion that pertains to "hidden clues" (dont know if you've ever had one in real life, i have) ...people blabber out everything they see that MIGHT be out of place. Little by little it leads them somewhere. As per the "lesbian" thing: Why all the clocks either dont have the hour/minute hands or any labels on them, except for one. If you look up that label name (as i've previously stated) it pops up with all the homosexual sites. So i figured I'd point that out. (If you're homophobic, I guess i owe you an apology). Re: Condoms: just to release some tension in this room. Get it!

To EXHILE: ....good work! (FYI...im not THAT anxious..i actually am at work, so I spend 1/10th of time on this forum)

So far, i think we're making good progress, regardless that jeffster is getting upset about the homo/condom thing. (you'll see mate, that later on that will come up one way or the other, but....TIME will show...lol)

[deffjeff]

TO: JeffDeff .........well....you're just stressing a little TOO much about this thing. In a discussion that pertains to "hidden clues" (dont know if you've ever had one in real life, i have) ...people blabber out everything they see that MIGHT be out of place. Little by little it leads them somewhere. As per the "lesbian" thing: Why all the clocks either dont have the hour/minute hands or any labels on them, except for one. If you look up that label name (as i've previously stated) it pops up with all the homosexual sites. So i figured I'd point that out. (If you're homophobic, I guess i owe you an apology). Re: Condoms: just to release some tension in this room. Get it!

To EXHILE: ....good work! (FYI...im not THAT anxious..i actually am at work, so I spend 1/10th of time on this forum)

So far, i think we're making good progress, regardless that jeffster is getting upset about the homo/condom thing. (you'll see mate, that later on that will come up one way or the other, but....TIME will show...lol)

Just out of curiosity, what watch or clock has a name on it? As for being homophobic that is not the case I just dont see the point in you posting about things that have absolutely nothing to do with this contest or the puzzles. For now there is nothing more to figure out, wait until the next box opens and then work with those clues. As I said I wasnt trying to be a dick about it, but if I didnt say it somebody else would have.

[D-Cipher]

Just out of curiosity, what watch or clock has a name on it? As for being homophobic that is not the case I just dont see the point in you posting about things that have absolutely nothing to do with this contest or the puzzles. For now there is nothing more to figure out, wait until the next box opens and then work with those clues. As I said I wasnt trying to be a dick about it, but if I didnt say it somebody else would have.

Im not angry or irritated with you, worry not my good friend. That is not the reason this forum was created, to fued. Anyhow, Im going to go through the puzzles and find you that clock with the name on it. That clock being the ONLY ONE with branding....DOES (do agree under these circumstances) expand our curiousity and interest of its uniqueness. I'll give you the image in a few (If you want to find it sooner, it is somewhere in this blog, pages 60-65 I believe.

[confusio]

TO: JeffDeff .........well....you're just stressing a little TOO much about this thing. In a discussion that pertains to "hidden clues" (dont know if you've ever had one in real life, i have) ...people blabber out everything they see that MIGHT be out of place. Little by little it leads them somewhere. As per the "lesbian" thing: Why all the clocks either dont have the hour/minute hands or any labels on them, except for one. If you look up that label name (as i've previously stated) it pops up with all the homosexual sites. So i figured I'd point that out. (If you're homophobic, I guess i owe you an apology). Re: Condoms: just to release some tension in this room. Get it!

To EXHILE: ....good work! (FYI...im not THAT anxious..i actually am at work, so I spend 1/10th of time on this forum)

So far, i think we're making good progress, regardless that jeffster is getting upset about the homo/condom thing. (you'll see mate, that later on that will come up one way or the other, but....TIME will show...lol)

I was surprised when I found the image with the "COLE & KODY" text since in the actual puzzle I don't

remember seeing it, normally in flash you have a base template and then you have other images,

shapes or sprites that get layered on top of the base image.

As far as we know it doesn't seem to be the brand of any watch currently in the market, and as you

know if you search for the text you get a bunch of results related to gay porn.

My take (and some game writers love to do that) is that it could be just a legend from the guys that

put together some pieces of the game, I tried to find any relationship with Cole and Kody and

e42, but some of the design could be subcontracted work. I tend to believe that it's not a clue,

and after digging a lot on the flash files which may help to catch couple of things not evident when

you look at the actual flash files running the game or find snafus (like the gear puzzle solution)

imho there are no clues hidden in the files.

I'd rather focus more on the clues provided in the videos, like as I posted before the glasses

lowering gesture and the script, things like the "no office", we don't know how to connect them

yet, or if it's a diversion but for sure they have a meaning.

BTW, I'm intrigued about Loki's arrival to Austin last night, I haven't seen any strong leads

from the flight itinerary yet.

Cheers.

Im not angry or irritated with you, worry not my good friend. That is not the reason this forum was created, to fued. Anyhow, Im going to go through the puzzles and find you that clock with the name on it. That clock being the ONLY ONE with branding....DOES (do agree under these circumstances) expand our curiousity and interest of its uniqueness. I'll give you the image in a few (If you want to find it sooner, it is somewhere in this blog, pages 60-65 I believe.

Here is the image in question ...

[deffjeff]

I was surprised when I found the image with the "COLE & KODY" text since in the actual puzzle I don't

remember seeing it, normally in flash you have a base template and then you have other images,

shapes or sprites that get layered on top of the base image.

As far as we know it doesn't seem to be the brand of any watch currently in the market, and as you

know if you search for the text you get a bunch of results related to gay porn.

My take (and some game writers love to do that) is that it could be just a legend from the guys that

put together some pieces of the game, I tried to find any relationship with Cole and Kody and

e42, but some of the design could be subcontracted work. I tend to believe that it's not a clue,

and after digging a lot on the flash files which may help to catch couple of things not evident when

you look at the actual flash files running the game or find snafus (like the gear puzzle solution)

imho there are no clues hidden in the files.

I'd rather focus more on the clues provided in the videos, like as I posted before the glasses

lowering gesture and the script, things like the "no office", we don't know how to connect them

yet, or if it's a diversion but for sure they have a meaning.

BTW, I'm intrigued about Loki's arrival to Austin last night, I haven't seen any strong leads

from the flight itinerary yet.

Cheers.

I guess she is going to the AMD campus in austin. I am actually intrigued about the message we get when we call AMD when she talks about the murmuring rock project, I dont think that we have any solution to that yet beyond the whole lorelei thing.

[D-Cipher]

Haha, there are a couple of things that these guys from e42 put in the game that are really weird,

I didn't notice it while working on the puzzles, but later while taking a closer look at the flash

files I found the following image for the Watch Springs puzzle, when you enter the puzzle it

doesn't show it, I don't remember if it showed up when entering the answer.

Image: (the actual image shows the whole puzzle screen, I just cropped the watch)

Noticed the "Cole & Kody" legend ?

I did a search, some results, well I'd say are not related to the game unless Loki is a "he" :-)

Do you want to follow this lead ?

PS. Sent a msg to the loki @ AMD address you posted, didn't bounce yet ...

Cheers

SEE? If you cannot see the image, go to page 60-something...The Comment #1048 is the one that will tell you. Please put that Cole & Kody thing in "quotes" (like this: "Cole & Kody") in google search. See what you get :)

[Orph]

Looking ahead. Does anyone have additional insight into any artistic meaning of the sundial at the Gas Works Park site in Seattle?

I have not found a good photo of the actual sundial yet. Just the description plaque.

"People disappear..." at this location. Modo100 is onto something.

I just had a thought (it hurt too :) ), if a person was standing in the middle of the sundial (as stated on the plaque) at 12:00 noon, a persons shadow would dissappear, or vanish! thus being a persons vanishing point (well their shadow anyway)

[D-Cipher]

As you can see in the image herewith...VanishingPoint has removed the branding shortly after. Now, look at the quote of the first puzzle box..."Look for clues BEFORE they DISAPPEAR"!!!.....

Be honest with me. If you picked that up, and linked it all together ( I agree that the whole homo thing doesnt really seem to fin into the chain of events here, however...) It IS a bit suspicious that it was there, people caught it, then it was removed, just like she predicts, that those clues will disappear.

CONCUR?

[deffjeff]

SEE? If you cannot see the image, go to page 60-something...The Comment #1048 is the one that will tell you. Please put that Cole & Kody thing in "quotes" (like this: "Cole & Kody") in google search. See what you get :)

The Cole & Kody thing is most likely the names of one of the puzzle designers kids, and when they googled that combination of names they got the same results we did, that is why it was removed, it is not part of the game, it was never even visible until someone dug through the source code to find it.

[D-Cipher]

I was surprised when I found the image with the "COLE & KODY" text since in the actual puzzle I don't

remember seeing it, normally in flash you have a base template and then you have other images,

shapes or sprites that get layered on top of the base image.

As far as we know it doesn't seem to be the brand of any watch currently in the market, and as you

know if you search for the text you get a bunch of results related to gay porn.

My take (and some game writers love to do that) is that it could be just a legend from the guys that

put together some pieces of the game, I tried to find any relationship with Cole and Kody and

e42, but some of the design could be subcontracted work. I tend to believe that it's not a clue,

and after digging a lot on the flash files which may help to catch couple of things not evident when

you look at the actual flash files running the game or find snafus (like the gear puzzle solution)

imho there are no clues hidden in the files.

I'd rather focus more on the clues provided in the videos, like as I posted before the glasses

lowering gesture and the script, things like the "no office", we don't know how to connect them

yet, or if it's a diversion but for sure they have a meaning.

BTW, I'm intrigued about Loki's arrival to Austin last night, I haven't seen any strong leads

from the flight itinerary yet.

Cheers.

Here is the image in question ...

Thanks Confusio....because some people here think im crazy :(

The Cole & Kody thing is most likely the names of one of the puzzle designers kids, and when they googled that combination of names they got the same results we did, that is why it was removed, it is not part of the game, it was never even visible until someone dug through the source code to find it.

LOL JEFF!!! Please stop being in such deep denial that I actually was not just blaberring about the gay thing, and stop insanely speculating that its the designers' childrens names! lol. Just admit it that my speculations were not pointless (see Confusio..lol) .....and lets move on!

Keep in mind....Every little word is a puzzle in this game. Designers dont have free will to shlap anythign they want on the website. This site was designed for brainstormers. THAT brand is NOT coincidental! :)

[phxmimms]

What I find interesting about the Cole Kody watch is the way the wings or "feathers" are incorporated into the image. To me they appear to be eagle feathers and this may relate to the feathers in the Meta puzzle image.

[akitakoi]

What I find interesting about the Cole Kody watch is the way the wings or "feathers" are incorporated into the image. To me they appear to be eagle feathers and this may relate to the feathers in the Meta puzzle image.

LOL, Time Flies?

What am I going to do at work when this is all done?

[VirtuconDG]

I just had a thought (it hurt too :) ), if a person was standing in the middle of the sundial (as stated on the plaque) at 12:00 noon, a persons shadow would dissappear, or vanish! thus being a persons vanishing point (well their shadow anyway)

No, your shadow will point to the top of the sundial at noon, not vanish completely (unless you're at the Equator!).

[deffjeff]

What I find interesting about the Cole Kody watch is the way the wings or "feathers" are incorporated into the image. To me they appear to be eagle feathers and this may relate to the feathers in the Meta puzzle image.

I guess it is a reference to "time flies"

[D-Cipher]

LOL, Time Flies?

What am I going to do at work when this is all done?

EXACTLY! .....This is somethign to do at work AND at home, lol. Once this is done, I guess we'll be waiting for Mac to do something like this! :)

[confusio]

Keep in mind....Every little word is a puzzle in this game. Designers dont have free will to shlap anythign they want on the website. This site was designed for brainstormers. THAT brand is NOT coincidental! :)

Not true, in many games they do but few people notice it.

I tell you another reason why I spent some time following that lead is because together with

that image there is another image that gets overimposed to the base image in the first

frame, unless you have an ultra slow machine you will never see the legend, when I first

found the image I thought, hmmm is this something that was supposed to vanish ?

Then I went for additional digging and found nothing besides the curiosity why the heck

they put it there ?

BTW to satisfy your curiosity here is the image that gets overimpossed on the first frame.

Cheers