Surprisingly, I am alive.

[WooSH]

^ lmao. thats pretty funny. and i dont mean to be a little douchebag but that quattro is a stock picture that you can find anywhere, say..edmunds.com? you cal also see that the road spills over the yellow line on the side of the road, and that whole road has undergone a very bad job with the blur tool to hide the mistakes.

aside from that it really cringes me when i see a picture of a M3 like that...

[ambushed]

I can't believe so many people in this thread have been so easily prepared to forgive and forget. I wonder if they'd feel the same if an innocent pedestrian had of been standing there instead of a tree.

OP:Oh but i've learned my lesson about speeding"

Judge:"oh well that makes it OK, no prison time for you then"

I've no sympathy at all for the OP. Deserves everything he got and more. And then some go on to ask what his next car will be? Seemingly looking what the next thing he's going to use to continue these adventures.

[Lyric]

That custom computer can and would be disabled quite fast, kids are not stupid.

Not possible if you hide the tuner, or lock it down with a password...depending on which tuning software you use, they make software specifically for this type of use, but yet its still good for dyno tuning your vehicle to its greatest potential.

Then why buy them an $80,000 car and detube it to a $30,000 car? thats a complete waste.

I dunno, its kind of like people buying a sports car with more horsepower than they will ever use, because they are limited by driver skill.

It's kind of like going out and buying a hayabusa for your first bike, in the end it isn't a very good idea...but in a car there are some alternatives as well as for bikes....to detune it untill the driver matures enough and has confidence and can prove he can use all of the horsepower to its full potential...then proceed to crank it little by little. :)

[peacemf]

glad to hear that your alive and NOBODY was killed

160KPH or 100MPH is fast, even though i've seen alot of people do such speeds on the motorway.

I'll slow down too :) doesnt matter if you have a car or an SUV high speed still kills

and for god sake the kid DOESNT deserve to die, how can you say such crap! hopefully you dont become a cop, judge, doctor or paramedic!

[Wannes]

http://www.autounleashed.com/images/audi_bmw_quattro_ad1.jpg

:whistle:

;)

[wst50]

Well done raising everyone elses insurance premiums there. I'm sure your parents are proud.

If you're going to drive fast, learn to keep it on the black stuff ffs. If you don't know your cars limits you won't, and if you can't keep it on, you don't deserve to drive. Idiot.

[Mouldy Punk]

Glad you didn't kill anyone else - I'll leave that sentence there.

To be bluntly honest, despite never meeting you or even spoken to you, I really dislike people like you. You say you've learnt your lesson, I doubt it. I bet you'll still be weaving in and out of traffic. People like you, usually young people, are what disallow many other young people from driving because they cannot afford the insurance premiums. I'm not speaking of you specifically, I don't know how old you are. But when you see 20 year olds racing around the streets - weaving in and out of traffic - I think, "What a douche, I hope they die in an undocumented fireball that some how doesn't effect my insurance premiums". It is seriously annoying that every other good, safe driver out there has to pay higher premiums just because there are idiots in the world who *think* they are a God send and the best, safest drivers out there - because they're not. Simple as.

The fact that you had 3 accidents prior to this one demonstrates that you are not a good driver because you could not even control the situation when it was within the bounds of the law. The fact that you had a crash at high speeds also demonstrates that you are a crap driver when you think you are a good driver. My dad, he's been driving for 35ish years and has NEVER had an accident. EVER. He's not one of those overly cautious people who **** everyone else off on the road, he just knows his limits and knows not to cross them. Similarly, my mum, she's been driving for a bout 30 years. The only incident she's ever been involved in is when some muppet in a car park reversed into her car while it was parked.

In summary: I don't believe you have learnt from your mistake and I highly doubt that this will be your last accident. Hopefully natural selection will either make you smarter or rid you of this world - as harsh as that sounds, it's how I feel about idiots such as yourself.

Good day. *tips his hat and leaves*

[VGVL]

You really have no clue. There was water on the road and it was so cold that it turned into ice.

Out of the three crashes I had previously, they have been:

a) Rear ended at a stop light. Not my fault, and I couldn't have prevented it.

b) Rear ended by a woman who was tailgating. Not my fault, and I couldn't have prevented it.

c) I hit the curb to avoid killing someone who was doing something he shouldn't be doing. My fault, justified.

If you pushed your car hard on a regular basis you'd know that no matter how well you plan, every now and then there will be something out of your control that messes everything up. The more you do something the more likely it becomes that you'll fail once.

Now if I told you all the high speed accidents I have successfully avoided I'd fill a page. The times I raced my dad he used to try his hardest to make me crash. I think that's the best accident avoidance training one could possibly get.

There is a guy with an M5 I used to drift around residential areas with. I "raced" him every now and then, it was more like friendly weaving through traffic. He pushes his car hard too. He used to have a 5-Series, and got a 7-Series loaner while his car was in service. He didn't like the 7-Series because it was too big and heavy so they loaned him an M3. He crashed the loaner M3 at 180km/h on the streets. He liked it so much that he immediately placed an order for an E60 M5. He tops out his M5 regularly on the same road I crashed.

Another friend who had an Audi S4, same story. He replaced it with a 335i. Now he has an S5 on order.

The more you do something the more trivial it becomes.

[xendrome]

uncalled for? don't expect me to feel sympathy or respect for someone who was always boasting about his speeding. Too many innocent, young people die on the streets every day because of stupid people like the OP. If he wants to play with his life, fine, he can go kill himself on a closed racetrack, not on public streets. If you kill someone because you were speeding you are a murderer, as simple as that.

And even this topic looks more like a cry for attention or at least some kind of morbid feeling of being proud. His 5 minutes of fame, i don't have the feeling he learned his lesson.

I also agree, if there were less people on this planet that looked at things like the OP. We wouldn't have some of the horrible DUI and careless driving accidents that kill innocent people just trying to go out and get groceries for that week.

[+Warwagon MVC]

2 words

"Final Destination"

[VGVL]

I think this thread has run its course.

[wst50]

You really have no clue. There was water on the road and it was so cold that it turned into ice.

The more you do something the more trivial it becomes.

Well, you shouldn't have pushed your car beyond its limits. You knew it was cold and it's likely it would have ice on, you should have realised and kept the speed down.

Yes, it does become trivial. And it's an attitude problem. The speed limits are there for a reason (not least- the stuff can't hold up to cars going fast and it breaks up, raising taxes and car damage).

You have not been trained to drive a car fast. Contrary to what you believe, you don't know how to handle a car at the speed you were doing, even though conditions were less than ideal. You drive beyond your ability. You don't appreciate the worst conditions possible when driving so are surprised when a patch of ice almost kills you. The first rule of driving well is 'anticipate the worst'. If it's a sunny day, assume that the road will be dusty and you will slide off on the marbles. When it's cold, it's likely to be icey. Simple stuff.

Even when you know conditions are ideal, don't go like you're in the Le Mans. There are factors you cannot prepare for, other than to slow down to the speed of the traffic. A blowout at the speed you were at would make some lovely marks on the road, but what if you were on a contraflow road and you span in front of a truck? You're pretty irresponsible overall, and it's a pity that your car was as tough as it is, frankly you should have lost your legs for such bad driving.

If it was on a track, I'd say 'whoops, what's your next car going to be?', but it wasn't and you're basically an asshat.

now come on mods, lock this, it's had its course, and I don't particularly think this asshat should have a chance at defending his street racing... which is of course, a banned topic here, and essentially what he's talking about. Not to be too modly, ofc. Leave that **** to you foo's.

EDIT: Also, TheRealDave posted this video in another thread. Makes you think eh? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1yhdg_ro...afety-authority

Edited June 11, 2008 by wst50

[Badtz-Maru]

Just remember, if you had a passenger, they probably would have been killed.

++

[Mouldy Punk]

You really have no clue. There was water on the road and it was so cold that it turned into ice.

--snip--

Yes, I am the one who has no clue; "Good God! THERE WAS ICE ON THE ROAD WHEN IT WAS COLD!!!! OMG!!! ITS NOT MU FAULTZ!!"

Wait...what's that? It is! Who would have thought? Bizarre, for a minute there I thought it was perfectly safe to be driving too quickly on frozen ground :rolleyes:

Allow the 'clueless' to give you a clue;

Your post, despite it's length, only tells me 1 thing; You haven't learnt from your mistake. Even now you are trying to justify your reckless driving. Grow up, and in the mean time, keep off the roads.

[teleprompt]

Well, you shouldn't have pushed your car beyond its limits.

it wasn't the car that had it's limits.

[U5tabil]

I just registered after reading trough this, don't know why i got here because i was looking on pictures of Ferrari's with there tax plates and their solutions around the world. Don't ask why.

One thing is that you where lucky that YOU survived. But what you should be more lucky about is that you had no friend with you, who would certainly have been killed in that accident. After looking on those pictures.

I have had an accident my self not my fault, another lunatic crashed in to me... And thats 2 years ago. And i still have huge problems with my back. And i even lost my license once for speeding, doing an average of 113km/h in a 70km/h zone on a 3 lane road at late night with little or none traffic . Not much and i still blame the government here in Norway for having to low speed limits. I was speeding yes. And i was doing to fast. But if it had been 80-90km/h i would have hold my license and only got a hefty fine. Which i would have accepted. But it didn't happened, i lost my license for 10 months... and i got around 9500NOk which is about 2000+ $ in speeding fine.

But i still drive "fast", not that often. I have my own rules that i follow (they didn't save me from loosing my license though). They will not save me at all but they reduce the risk. On daytime i never drive this fast. maybe 100km/h down an empty long straight road, where i live. Not much can go wrong there since you see everything, and i brake down when the straight is over. But normally i follow the traffic as it is. You can speed past another car in traffic, but it doesn't take long before you are stuck behind another one anyway. And when i have friends on board my car i drive slow (speed limits). I always listen to my passengers. I drive so that they are comfortable. If its ok for them i drive 10-20km/h over the speed limit.

The only time i do speed. Is on empty roads at night. Why at night? Well for the first its dark, so you can see if another car is meeting you in the next corner. This reduce you from crashing in the front of others killing both you and the others. I don't speed in or near cities because there isn't dark enough for one. The other is that there are to many people, that even may be drunk walking around places they shouldn't or if you crash you may crash into a pub or something, which would be even worse..... And as i said earlier, i don't speed with passengers.

This reduce the risk of the things that is the worst that could happen for my part. Killing or injuring other people. But it will not save me from crashing in to a tree or something like that. But at least i will not take others with me. I am not afraid of dying only taking others with me. And for now i only have my parents and friends to worry about leaving behind, maybe later i will slow a bit more down, if i find someone and starts a family by my self.

And also for now the nearest race track for me is 600km away from me (And its not highway to there either so it is around 7-9 hours of driving). So it is too far. But a new track is to be built within 2-4 years from now, just 15km from me. Then i can go and race on the track as often as i feel the urge of adrenaline. And it would be safer.

I do speed and i will always speed. Hopefully in a safer environment soon. Because i am an adrenalin junkie and the best adrenaline rush i get is from driving... It is illegal just as drugs, and they are both dangerous. But drugs has never been my thing. There are to many side effects from it. Just as speeding but not in the same way. But if you have rules like i have, you reduce the side effects and have a bit more control.

Edited August 15, 2008 by U5tabil

[Pilsbury]

Don't quite get why you think you'd be safer at night. Yes, you can see the headlights of other cars. You can't however see everything - animals, pedestrians and so on won't always be easy to spot.

[Joel]

I do speed and i will always speed. Hopefully in a safer environment soon. Because i am an adrenalin junkie and the best adrenaline rush i get is from driving... It is illegal just as drugs, and they are both dangerous. But drugs has never been my thing. There are to many side effects from it. Just as speeding but not in the same way. But if you have rules like i have, you reduce the side effects and have a bit more control.

Find a track and knock yourself out. But stay of the public roads with that attitude. Otherwise, you're just a selfish *******.

[DrunkenMaster]

My cousin car was hit by a moose on the highway when he was doing about 100 km/h. The car was a total right-off. There's clear evidence of about 4 or 5 hoof prints indented into the sheet metal. He escaped with a few cuts and bruises but was knocked out and saved by his airbag. Why? The car was such a piece of junk that during the accident that the driver's seat had collapsed and he was send backwards in a lying flat position away from the moose. The roof was crushed. He would have died otherwise. If you're in moose country, drive a 1990s model Acura. Were it a rear end collison and the seat did the same thing, he would have died. This time it saved him.

U5tabil > Feeling like you're always under control when you're speeding is foolish. You might have fast reflexes. Might. But there are other people, on the racetrack, or dreadfully I hope you're not on the highway that might not be as skilled or as quick as you are. If you're healthy now and you're just "saving time" when you speed, if you get in an accident it can get taken all away from you and will take you a lot longer to recover from and cost a lot more than you saved time in speeding.

[U5tabil]

People have clearly not read all that i wrote here.

Pilsbury:

Yes i know that people are hard to spot, and that it might be to late in most cases. But as i wrote earlier in this i wrote that i don't speed near cities just for this reason! And only on roads that for most of the times are almost empty, epically at night. I know that a lot can go terribly wrong, but at least i reduce the risk of hurting others.

Joel:

You didn't read the whole thing either.

I wrote that the problem is that the nearest track for me is around 7-9 hours away from here(ca 600km). And with today's petrol prices and so on it will both cost a lot to travel to them AND it will take to long time. You might be so tired when you drive home so that you may reach the work for the next day that you crash just because of that. The positive thing as i also wrote is that there will come a new track just 15km from me. But it will take probably 3 years until that is finished.

DrunkenMaster:

I have NEVER written that i always have control of speeding. No one in the world does! It may go wrong at any moment.

I never speed ed because i want to save time. I drive/speed because i enjoy it. I don't enjoy doing 200km/h on a straight line, that's just rubbishing and boring. I rather like speeding on some empty roads with lots of corners. It doesn't go that fast but is way more fun. Some corners you can't even exceed the speed limit because the corner is to tight. I call it more like "inspired driving" than speeding.

And as i wrote earlier i have been in an car accident and now even 2 years after that crash i haven't fully recovered from it.

[Joel]

Joel:

You didn't read the whole thing either.

I don't care how far away a track is right now, nothing you wrote (and yes, I did read it) changes my mind about you speeding. On a public road, you're a selfish *******.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

An attitude like yours is a death wish. I'm going to be very honest in saying that it would've been better for you to die. At least that way, people who hear about your death would be weary of speeding. :|

[rathefeare]

I applaud you for at least thinking about your actions, but I beleive that you have drawn the wrong conclusions. Quite frankly you don't have the right to use public roads to get your adrenaline fix. They don't belong solely to you. Other people own and use them also; yes even out in the rural areas and even at night. I don't care how far away the track is. Go there or wait for an autocross in your town. I'd rather that you do drugs to get your adrenaline fix at least that way you are not risking other people with your behavior.

[DavidM]

I don't believe you will change your habits, a few weeks from now you will probably driving daddy's car, using daddy's gas and coasting without a ticket because grandpa pulled your dick out of the fire, and when you crash next time I only hope you don't kill someone.

[Mouldy Punk]

U5tabil: I agree with you to an extent. I live in a rural area and most the roads spend most of their time empty, especially at night. Also, some (not all) of the roads are out in the open with miles of visibility around every corner. Those roads, imo, shouldn't even have a legal speed limit. It's just as safe to do 80 down those roads as it is to do 60. The problem is though, not all the rural roads are like that, and they can suddenly change. A lot of them do have limited visibility in the bends, and if there's a combine harvester coming the other way, you're screwed/dead. Similarly, if you go around a bend with poor visibility and someone pulls out of their driveway, or there's just some annoying slow person also going in your direction, you'll have to slam on the anchors so you don't go into the back of them.

The way I see it, unless the roads are;

a) Empty. Including people walking, cycling on the paths next to the roads.

b) Fully visible (especially the bends)

c) Suitable for driving fast on - eg, no loose gravel, not wet etc

Then it is fine to speed (in my opinion) but y'know...don't take the **** with it. Letting your speed go up to 80 in a 60 limit maybe, but not ridiculous 100mph+ speeds.

There are a lot of villages near here, and a lot of people riding horses too. It's dangerous even doing 40mph to overtake those because the horses get scared and throw the rider off. If you go whizzing around a bend and there's a horse on either side of the road, well...I'm sure you won't be getting a thank you card from the rider.

There are too many variables for speeding to ever be totally safe, heck even driving within the speed limit is pretty dangerous. To summarise; Roads are dangerous. Speeding only makes them more dangerous. If you don't care about your own safety, so be it. But only drive dangerously when you are absolutely sure nobody else is at risk.