megamanXplosion Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 As of now, only 10 web-safe fonts are available, which are generally included with popular operating systems. Embeddable fonts were tried in the Netscape days but there weren't many tools available for the chosen font formats so the technology wasn't used much. The fonts you could legally embed were crap and those that were worth embedding couldn't be legally embedded. Many typographers were, and are, displeased with the way the specification works because they don't want their fonts to be so easily pirated. Typographers and browser vendors need to meet and find a viable solution. The open source community haven't limited themselves to software though. Many fonts are being created under the Open Font License that people may distribute freely, even with commercial products. With some encouragement, various operating system vendors could include many of those fonts with their operating systems. That would allow more than 10 web-safe fonts. This wouldn't be a permanent solution because operating system vendors cannot include thousands of fonts with their operating systems, but it would please web designers while waiting for the browser vendors and typographers to meet and find a viable solution to the problem of embeddable fonts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Frothy Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Hope firefox 3.0 Final gets 80%+ I doubt IE8 Final will get more than 60% It's not that far off, the latest Beta 5 Nightly build is at 67/100. IE7 is totally failing, I can't even tell, I think it's getting 5/100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedJellyBowl Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I can't complain, especially for Firefox 3.0b5. Can't wait to see how the final performs. IE7, on the other hand, like everyone else has been experiencing, is unreadable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdave Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 It's not that far off, the latest Beta 5 Nightly build is at 67/100.IE7 is totally failing, I can't even tell, I think it's getting 5/100. same here. hopefully ie8 guys will fix this little issue :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 On Vista - Opera - Version 9.50 - Build 9807 - Scores a 65/100! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted March 5, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 5, 2008 If there is a way to automatically download a required font, I'd love to know about it! https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...=618488&hl= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourjays Veteran Posted March 5, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 5, 2008 https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...=618488&hl= Sounds good. (Y) Hopefully other browsers follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted March 5, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 5, 2008 Why not? If the web browser renders the font, why wouldn't it be the same? If the font isn't included in the browser, it could be downloaded like an image for a web page. There is no reason why fonts can't be universal across all browsers in the future. Web browsers don't really render fonts, they use the system facilities to render fonts (Firefox uses Uniscribe on windows, Pango on Linux and ATSUI on OS X). In some cases with some font API's, the browser will need to render it though (If the font API doesn't provide a way of constructing a font in memory from path data, browsers will need to render SVG fonts themselves) Sounds good. (Y) Hopefully other browsers follow suit. IE already supports the css font-face rules, although MS went with their own format (It only embeds the characters the page is using, making it smaller to download, and also making it harder to use if you're not the guy making the site) A much better option (IMO) is just making the browser read the embedding bit before displaying it (People who want to embed it are going to do so anyway, regardless of what copyright protection stuff you throw in) Edit: Opera supports SVG fonts as well, This is the second time I've forgotten Opera supports them >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowRanger13 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Yesterdays Nightly Build of Webkit scored 87, todays scores 90! With Safari 3.1 final not too far away (for those that don't know Safari is based on Webkit) it's very likely it will be one of the first to pass the Acid 3 test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avi Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 Yesterdays Nightly Build of Webkit scored 87, todays scores 90! With Safari 3.1 final not too far away (for those that don't know Safari is based on Webkit) it's very likely it will be one of the first to pass the Acid 3 test. 90? Holly crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowRanger13 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 90? Holly crap! Thats what I said. I went and checked and turns out I have access to Safari 3.1 Beta so I wanted to see how it did compared to Safari 3.0.4 and Webkit. Safari 3.0.4 - 39/100 Safari 3.1 Beta (build 5525.12) - 75/100 Webkit March 4th - 87/100 Webkit March 5th - 90/100 Very likely that in the next few days/weeks we will see Webkit reach 100/100 and since Safari is based on Webkit chances are that the final release of Safari 3.1 will also get 100/100. Safari 3.1 will be the best choice on OS X, while Safari 3.1 will get the same Acid score on Windows as it does on OSX, Opera or Firefox will still be better choice for Windows users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 IE8's Amazing score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 IE8 Beta 1 only gets 17/100 :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewism Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 It was 5/100 for IE7, they are working on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol911 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 It was 5/100 for IE7, they are working on it! Yeah, 10 more years and they might pass it. :laugh: Opera 9.26 build 8835 gets 46/100. Quite an old version since the 9.5 betas started appearing, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasker Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 IE8's Amazing score! +1 it give me the same score under vista 64bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 +1 it give me the same score under vista 64bit I only got 10/100 on 32-bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconoclast Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 my FF2 is special, I got 52 :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel T Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 With Safari 3.1 final not too far away...it's very likely it will be one of the first to pass the Acid 3 test. Well, second :p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted March 6, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 6, 2008 I just tested this in K-Meleon 1.5 (one of the 3rd party builds though) and it scored a 58/100. Not to shabby I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MulletRobZ Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Safari 3.0.4 = 38/100 Firefox 3.0b3 (Latest public beta available) = 59/100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted March 6, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 6, 2008 Just tested on Safari 3.1 (dev build 525.6 I believe) for Windows. Scored a 68/100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVG Veteran Posted March 6, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 6, 2008 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9b4) Gecko/2008030317 Firefox/3.0b4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Blue01 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Netscape (TruDoc) and Microsoft (Weft) have their own way of embedding fonts so hopefully that'l be the next thing they standardize on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 wonder how the 3.05 pre nightly gets on. im hoping for 70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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