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I wonder if current iPhone contract holders will have to upgrade their contract for an extra 2 years from the date on which they buy their new iPhone. I certainly hope not.

If the current deal remains in effect with the carriers, no. They should upgrade any existing iPhone to a new model on your current plan to the new model. That being said, some carriers will require a different plan that specifies 3G Data Service over the current Edge service which may require a contract extension. That is my understanding of what I've heard.

One simple question for you Cara - i'm not asking you to comment on the product or tell us anything about it at all, but have you actually seen the 3G iPhone for yourself..?

:)

I know this question will not tell us anything about the iPhone, but I doubt she can even answer this one. :|

Even after WWDC, I bet she can't say if she saw it or not.

What I'm wondering though, Cara, is : what exactly is your job at Apple? Are you designing their website? Their applications? Their icons? Or maybe their hardware? *cough iPhone* :p

I am now a Manager in what is best described as a Research & Development, Design division. I do refrain from going into too much detail due to the fact that it would make me easier to find if I decided to leak something larger than I do now and someone wanted to go after me. ;)

She could of been designing 'Snow Leopard' for PC.. oh the irony :laugh: :woot:

That would be a kick in the pants, wouldn't it? ;)

If the current deal remains in effect with the carriers, no. They should upgrade any existing iPhone to a new model on your current plan to the new model. That being said, some carriers will require a different plan that specifies 3G Data Service over the current Edge service which may require a contract extension. That is my understanding of what I've heard.

Well I'm with AT&T in the U.S., so I hope that AT&T won't require a new data plan for 3G. I'm thinking it's quite enough to pay $99.99 for my 900 min/mo and unlimited data and texting.

Well I'm with AT&T in the U.S., so I hope that AT&T won't require a new data plan for 3G. I'm thinking it's quite enough to pay $99.99 for my 900 min/mo and unlimited data and texting.

That is who I am with also (Personal), work provided and pays for my work iPhone. :) From what I was told there shouldn't be an extension required, however I do not know that for sure.

I've read so much now, I don't even remember this. Is there going to be a firmware update for the original iphone as well?

Firmware update 2.0 for the iPhone 1 and 2 works great, I've been using it since the second revision. :) The primary reason that the final version of 2.0 isn't out to public yet is that it contains a lot of code for iPhone 3 and Apple always likes to have a few surprises up their sleeve for release. ;)

...and Apple always likes to have a few surprises up their sleeve for release. ;)

I hope so, I kinda feel bad for reading all the rumor sites. I'm afraid there will be no surprise at the keynote. On monday I will ban myself from any tech site and from my email. I was doing so great waiting for the macworld keynote and apple.com sent an email about the macbook air. I was heartbroken :( So I will avoid email this time. I use the macrumors spoiler free keynote.

I hope so, I kinda feel bad for reading all the rumor sites. I'm afraid there will be no surprise at the keynote. On monday I will ban myself from any tech site and from my email. I was doing so great waiting for the macworld keynote and apple.com sent an email about the macbook air. I was heartbroken :( So I will avoid email this time. I use the macrumors spoiler free keynote.

Keep in mind, WWDC isn't a product launching event like MacWorld is. WWDC is a developers conference. :)

Back to wishing for a midrange Mac - like the iMac but headless (BYODKM) and upgradable - RAM, video, HDD, etc etc...

I can but dream!

what about a mac home , or mac small business WAIT mac SB

have a midsize case. say about the size of a hp slimline with 2 gigs ram ,320 hdd space, ati radeon pro what ever the imac has thats 256MB in graphics

firewire,usb,bt,wireless,dvd super drive, i sight camera attachment mac os 10.6.0 bobcat

Any word on 3G in Canada? Is it happening in 10 years or are we lucky enough to get only 5 to wait?

Christmas. Roger announced that it was working with Apple earlier this year. Christmas. Start saving. It will be expensive (and also require you to sell your soul to Rogers, but that really...goes without saying :p)

I wish Steve wasn't so against a Midrange Tower Mac. :p

I know he does seem to hate the idea - i'd love for you to email him Cara, and see what he comes back with. I swear to god they'd sell like hot cakes so i'd love to know what it is that seems to be preventing Apple from making such a beast.

The closest thing so far was the Mac Mini and I thought that was generally quite well received - or was it, in the grand scheme of things for Apple, not a big seller? I always thought my Mac Mini was a wonderful piece of kit only held back by the GPU!

I know he does seem to hate the idea - i'd love for you to email him Cara, and see what he comes back with. I swear to god they'd sell like hot cakes so i'd love to know what it is that seems to be preventing Apple from making such a beast.

The closest thing so far was the Mac Mini and I thought that was generally quite well received - or was it, in the grand scheme of things for Apple, not a big seller? I always thought my Mac Mini was a wonderful piece of kit only held back by the GPU!

It's a kind of known thing that people don't ask Steve about the minitower, he's been known to fly off the handle about it.

My predictions for WWDC '08...

iPhone with 3g and some secret features --- a given, as you can't go online without every single website mentioning it.

Steve Jobs will talk about iPhone sales and how it is up this year --- a given since now it is the 3rd place phone

He will then hand it to Bertrand Serlet where he is going to said Redmond start your copiers again --- a given due to Windows 7 demo of the touch features

An update to iFund with Whrrl or whatever it is called --- a given

He will talk about Mac OS X 10.6 and that it will still support for PowerPC --- a given since Mac OS X was compiled for PowerPC and Intel since the begining.

He will mention an update to .Mac --- unsure about this one, maybe because I don't use it or care for it

And that is pretty much it except about two weeks later the MacBook's will get a slight speed bump increase.

It's a kind of known thing that people don't ask Steve about the minitower, he's been known to fly off the handle about it.

That's disappointing, because that would be a sweet spot for me to make the jump. The MacMini just doesn't cut it for me, especially with gaming. The iMac lacks the video power I would want for my games, and I don't want to fork out for a 24" one just to get something somewhat competitive. The Mac Pro is far too powerful of a beast and would be a waste of a machine since I wouldn't utilize it to its full potential (the price tag is also a big factor). If the iMac was somehow expanded so that I could plug a second computer into it, thus using it as my monitor for my PC, then that would make a 20" much more enticing, but I don't ever see that happening. With all that considered, a mid range Mac would be ideal since I could have upgrade potential and change the video card every two years (as well as the CPU if need be). Ah well, maybe one day.

The iMac can have great video power with the 8600GS or something. Or maybe you were talking about a high-end model.

At this time though, we don't need any good video card in our computers, as next-gen consoles are really young. When they will be older, graphics will show their age and it will be time to pay the price for a good video card to bring the games on the computer.

Now, back to the iPhone 2 (or 3 as Cara mentioned it :p) I'm wondering : why would Apple sent out boxes with "do not open until Tuesday" on it? Are they stupid enough to do this? Was it to fill the rumor mill? Or is this thing simply not true? I can't believe they would think everyone's honest and all, I mean even I would have opened it (but maybe not posted pics on the net though).

The iMac can have great video power with the 8600GS or something. Or maybe you were talking about a high-end model.

At this time though, we don't need any good video card in our computers, as next-gen consoles are really young. When they will be older, graphics will show their age and it will be time to pay the price for a good video card to bring the games on the computer.

The 8800GS is available only on the 24" models, but even then, just to add that pushes the iMac to just under $2,000. That's almost to a point where I would be willing to fork out a little more and get the Mac Pro, which isn't necessary.

While you may not game on the PC, I and many others do; there are plenty of PC games currently being made (it sounds like you're suggesting that consoles are only getting games, maybe I'm reading it wrong). The 8800GS is sufficient, but I would have to get a 24" iMac and I couldn't change it to a 9x series or anything better than that. If I were able to change it, I'm certain my options would be very limiting.

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