The_Decryptor Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 However neither Jabber or Bonjour support (reliable) Video/Audio chatting such as the iPhone3 (is proposed to have.) What's more reliable about the AIM protocol than the one Apple created for Bonjour/Jabber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cara Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 What's more reliable about the AIM protocol than the one Apple created for Bonjour/Jabber? The level of feature implementation is considerably higher for the iChat / AIM protocol due to the fact that it has been in iChat since the start, refined, updated, and enhanced where the Jabber and Bonjour parts are fairly recent additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osirisX Posted June 7, 2008 Author Share Posted June 7, 2008 That was quick, how many more this weekend before Apple leaks the real ones to see a reaction? Wouldn't leaking images 2 days before you're going to show it off be a bit pointless? :p Also, do Apple employees get a big kick out of all the fakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cara Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 Wouldn't leaking images 2 days before you're going to show it off be a bit pointless? :pAlso, do Apple employees get a big kick out of all the fakes? Oh yes, even though some of them even take Apple staff in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 The level of feature implementation is considerably higher for the iChat / AIM protocol due to the fact that it has been in iChat since the start, refined, updated, and enhanced where the Jabber and Bonjour parts are fairly recent additions. Bonjour (Rendezvous) was there from the beginning. Jabber was added 4 years ago. And iChat uses the same AV protocol for AIM, Bonjour and Jabber (I had to look it up, I was wrong before, It's quite interesting actually, uses SIP to start the connection and RTP to send and receive, and also uses uPNP (and NAT-PMP I assume) to open the ports and an Apple server to find the external IP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cara Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 Bonjour (Rendezvous) was there from the beginning. Jabber was added 4 years ago.And iChat uses the same AV protocol for AIM, Bonjour and Jabber (I had to look it up, I was wrong before, It's quite interesting actually, uses SIP to start the connection and RTP to send and receive, and also uses uPNP (and NAT-PMP I assume) to open the ports and an Apple server to find the external IP) Wow, I remember back in the day when it wasn't...I guess you learn something new every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannes Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I can't wait for the 3G iPhone either so I'm getting a little nervous. However, my main concern is the launch price in Belgium. It's the first time they're going to have one here so everyone, without a "hacked" one, is waiting to storm that shop. We'll see but I, for one, have my money ready for a 3G version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I really like the MacBook Air aesthetics on those fake iPhone leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 Holy hell I can't wait :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se7en.hu Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 looking forward to a 3g iPhone myself :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 Two things I'm surprised Apple hasn't said anything about are video recording and Bluetooth file transfer. Video recording is huge, I love being able to take videos and share them with people over Bluetooth, so I'm surprised Apple hasn't said anything about this yet :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannes Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Indeed, especially the video recording feature. It's only a small feature they need to build in because the camera is capable of doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Green Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Yea i hope something is put in place so i can send over bluetooth to my friends phones or devices with bluetooth, because that is one thing I do miss very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoJD Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I just can't wait to see the new MacBooks, one will accompany my iMac well and my month long vacation the upcoming weeks. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 Imj not sure if Im going to upgrade to the new iPhone, depends on the features. One question, if anyone knows the answer. If I buy a new iPhone, can I take the SIM from my current iPhone and use it on the new one or I have to activate it again?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewJW Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I am waiting on any changes to the Imac lineup, toying with getting one for a desktop to replace mine :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannes Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Imj not sure if Im going to upgrade to the new iPhone, depends on the features. One question, if anyone knows the answer. If I buy a new iPhone, can I take the SIM from my current iPhone and use it on the new one or I have to activate it again?? I reckon you'll have to activate again but in a simple way. iPhones will still be locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 Found out my current mobile contract runs till November.. definately going for a new iPhone then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 I reckon you'll have to activate again but in a simple way. iPhones will still be locked. Yeah maybe it will be like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpu killer Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I wonder if current iPhone contract holders will have to upgrade their contract for an extra 2 years from the date on which they buy their new iPhone. I certainly hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted June 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 7, 2008 One simple question for you Cara - i'm not asking you to comment on the product or tell us anything about it at all, but have you actually seen the 3G iPhone for yourself..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I know this question will not tell us anything about the iPhone, but I doubt she can even answer this one. :| Even after WWDC, I bet she can't say if she saw it or not. What I'm wondering though, Cara, is : what exactly is your job at Apple? Are you designing their website? Their applications? Their icons? Or maybe their hardware? *cough iPhone* :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windam Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I know this question will not tell us anything about the iPhone, but I doubt she can even answer this one. :|Even after WWDC, I bet she can't say if she saw it or not. What I'm wondering though, Cara, is : what exactly is your job at Apple? Are you designing their website? Their applications? Their icons? Or maybe their hardware? *cough iPhone* :p She could of been designing 'Snow Leopard' for PC.. oh the irony :laugh: :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 If they do add multi touch in mac osx i wonder what the reaction would be. I bet they would show some intresting demos, compared to microsofts lame oneI can see apple getting this first and it actully sucucding Of course Microsoft showed a "lame" demo. Why do people still think they were suddenly going to show off the entirety of Windows 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Not the entirety, but at least something we've never seen before. Their demo was something we've seen in a lot of movies, on the Wii, a little bit in OS X iPhone, and maybe even a little bit on the MacBook Air. It wasn't anywhere near the word "special". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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