alisalem Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 The Group sharing thing is awful! It messed up my partitions' permissions when I went back to Vista. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591595768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeeekyyy Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 2) It is kinda that it is harder to customize compared to XP... XP themes didnt feel as "plain" as non-aero 7 GUI.3) I would like #3, Mustard, Medium, Tots Please, and Dr. Pepper No Ice. Thank You. Try the hamburger bar when all your application have the same generic icon. Or try the hamburger bar if you have very bad visual memory. 4) I just want the ability to add or remove items that was present in XP. 5) Well it lagged before I did that. Resizing a window takes a lot of CPU. Feature? I hope not. 6) Step backward from XP. 7) I think it was vobris or MTS, I don't remember now. As you can see MKV files require 3rd party addons. 8) It sure would be nice. Faster install (less files to copy / extract / whatever ), more space for porn. A win win. 9) Why? Indexing by default is limited, which is very good indeed, but Microsoft forgot the "shut the hell up and stop annoying me" button when searching My Computer for example. 10) It is not a major issue, but a valid reason for keeping an older OS around. And you just said that it is not a driver issue? I can quote you on that. I use the computer while chkdsk is running, which includes anything not related to the partition that the chkdsk is scanning at the current time. After all, chkdsk WAS (not anymore as it seems) a non-resource-intensive low-RAM process, thus intensive applications such as but not limited to games can be run (as long as they are not on the other partition on the drive that is being checked because then - it is SLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW). Old Chkdsk was pretty much an idle process that removes on drive from access leaving you being able to do whatever in the meantime that does not involve the drive being checked. You have some weird misconception here... comparing hardware damage with software damage - damage can only result from an accidental disconnection of said hard drive which has nothing to do with software that I am running - it is like comparing a virus that deletes your porn with smashing your computer with a hammer. Crysis can run without any problem. Not sure if I loose any FPS though with background processes. It is stable with the 1.21 patch, now before the 1.1 or 1.2 patch x64 crysis crashed :( You mentioned porn twice in the same post. Most people aren't proud of their addictions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591596128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_crabman Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) I wouldn't say I absolutely hate it but it's very irritating: When I use the right mouse button to mark multiple items (via the selection rectangle) in an explorer window and release the button while the cursor is outside this window (or even over the menus of the window) the right-click-menu doesn't pop up. Funny thing: If I do the reverse, mark items on the desktop and release the button over an explorer window, the right-click menu appears. I know they reprogrammed the explorer so I think it's not a deliberate change, just something they missed and i hope they correct this bug (imo it is one as this change doesn't serve any purpose). But what I absolutely hate and nobody ever mentions is the general iconsistency regarding menu behaviour when left clicking which was already an issue with Vista. WMP12 does it right imo, when I click on "Organize" and hold the left button the menu pops up, I can hover over a menu item, release the button and it's done. This doesn't work with the windows explorer, I have to click on "Organize" and release the left button before the menu even appears. Why? It's a totally unnecessary click. Oh and the bread-crumb-folderbar shows yet another behaviour: When I hold the left button after clicking the menu shows up but when I release it while hovering over an item it's not activated, I have to release click again. Aren't there any guidelines for basic stuff like this? Edited September 23, 2009 by dr_crabman Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591613914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I wouldn't say I absolutely hate it but it's very irritating: When I use the right mouse button to mark multiple items (via the selection rectangle) in an explorer window and release the button while the cursor is outside this window (or even over the menus of the window) the right-click-menu doesn't pop up.Funny thing: If I do the reverse, mark items on the desktop and release the button over an explorer window, the right-click menu appears. I know they reprogrammed the explorer so I think it's not a deliberate change, just something they missed and i hope they correct this bug (imo it is one as this change doesn't serve any purpose). But what I absolutely hate and nobody ever mentions is the general iconsistency regarding menu behaviour when left clicking which was already an issue with Vista. WMP12 does it right imo, when I click on "Organize" and hold the left button the menu pops up, I can hover over a menu item, release the button and it's done. This doesn't work with the windows explorer, I have to click on "Organize" and release the left button before the menu even appears. Why? It's a totally unnecessary click. Oh and the bread-crumb-folderbar shows yet another behaviour: When I hold the left button after clicking the menu shows up but when I release it while hovering over an item it's not activated, I have to release click again. Aren't there any guidelines for basic stuff like this? Sounds like a lot of nitpicking on things that aren't features, and I'm pretty sure what you want isn't the proper behavior for those features Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591614662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neogen Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I hate that they removed the Cursor-Movement after you press the Win-TAB combination. On my notebook it was a favorite key combination for me. Press Win-TAB once, hold Win and use Cursor Keys.... Its faster than only tabbing through the windows. Anyone knows how to get this back? :dontgetit: :ninjapirate: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591619030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Good feedback everyone. Anyone have anything to say about the Touch features or XP Mode? Haven't spent much time with touch yet. XP mode works well for the most part, but the way it advertises applications to the host still needs improvement. (Even after manually creating a shortcut in All Users it still doesn't always show up on my 7 Start menu. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591619476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCordRm Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 The Group sharing thing is awful! It messed up my partitions' permissions when I went back to Vista. Uh... did I understand that right? Are you saying that a Windows 7 feature didn't work right in Vista? How is that a Windows 7 problem? My first question would be how was group sharing working for you while you were still in Windows 7? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591619538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickkins Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Just off the top of my head... -Windows Explorer. it was way better in xp. -Superbar. I mean really, wtf...?? -Libraries. Just a big waste of time. Keep in mind that your experiences may vary... :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591627016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
max84 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 So far there is nothing I hate. I really think that "Libraries" are a great way to organize my files. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591627024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee31 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 There's an awful lot of nitpicking going on in here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591627046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_here Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Turn Windows Features On or Off now has a lot more options for pulling components. What about a "Remove Windows Features" utility? Since vLite removes them not simply "turn off". Also vLite can still remove a lot more components than listed under "Turn Windows Features On or Off". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591627258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Permissions handled with the "Share with..." window - there's no way to undo it without manually going into the security dialog (since "share with nobody" changes it to something else entirely). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591627282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 My computer esentially doesn't work with 7 (XPS M1530). I get aero lagging whenever I close a window (during the animation) and my music stutters (This is incredibly annoying). Clicking on my Explorer icon that's pinned to the taskbar opens Libraries, but hitting winkey+e opens My Computer. I want it to always open My Computer! Or infact Favourites, that'd be great. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591627290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeta_immersion Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 i run win7 in vmware under xp on 1gb ram (512 for win7) and runs fine ... boots fast and all, i am still playing with it to see what it can do although i may not give up on xp due to old hardware Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591627360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyakagod Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 What shipping costs? They're DVDs, not consoles. They can produce them here.I'd rather go check the Event Viewer. That memory dump thing doesn't really say much. Interpreting Bug Check Codes http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms789396.aspx Most of the info you need on understanding a blue screen is here. Understanding the format of Machine Check Exceptions on Intel Processors, Chapter 14. http://www.intel.com/design/processor/manuals/253668.pdf I don't know the AMD ones, but they should use the same because it's x86 architecture. Everything is there if you understand it enough to make sense of it. BSOD screen's are extremely informative, but I do agree that Event Viewer is much simpler at times to read. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591629806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwind Hawk Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I have a lot of trouble with the control panel. Changing a simple setting requires me to read through many screens to try to figure out where it is hidden away in 7, in comparison to XP. However, I don't think this is a PROBLEM. I think XP was more of the problem. I'm most likely more used to the advanced screens in XP, whereas in windows 7 everything is more directed to a regular user. It's easier... but takes time to get used to. I also haven't really been able to get used to the superbar, so I don't have them combined so it's more like XP. But that's just me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591629822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugMac Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Good feedback everyone. Anyone have anything to say about the Touch features or XP Mode? From a corporate side of business. XP Mode is not usable as it's unmanaged. Otherwise great job on Windows 7 (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591629958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilev Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 That win7 isn't free open-source OS. Apart from that, it no better than XP Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591630024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugMac Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 That win7 isn't free open-source OS. Apart from that, it no better than XP Are you serious? What open source operating system has any hope on the desktop? Open source is only for enthusiasts, on the desktop. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591630032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
master2k27 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 boot ups still take minis but its not much they can do about it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591630044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Window management compare to Linux or OS X is incredibly bad, Windows needs something like spaces and expose. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591630064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugMac Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Window management compare to Linux or OS X is incredibly bad, Windows needs something like spaces and expose. Spaces is a feature of OS X that I miss in Windows 7. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591630080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 The thing I miss most (not really a hate) is how in vista when you maximized a window the titlebar and taskbar would go opaque (while if it wasn't maximized it would be translucent) In 7 they don't. You can get a theme that makes the title bar opaque but not the taskbar =( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591630090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
max84 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 boot ups still take minis but its not much they can do about it. Who boots these days? I make it sleep most of the time, unless I've been working in PS with big files. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591630104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Who boots these days? I make it sleep most of the time, unless I've been working in PS with big files. Yeah I agree, I usually put mine on standby and its pretty much instant. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/816604-what-do-you-absolutely-hate-about-beloved-windows-7/page/10/#findComment-591630146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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