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  1. 1. Which version are you getting?

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60 bucks isn't too bad, sometimes games are 70 @ launch...

True. That's what I usually end up paying for new games. Forza 3 and Mass Effect 2 were both $70 when I bought them, although Uncharted 2 was only $60. Seems almost random sometimes. Thankfully, FFXIII is $60, and so is my other March purchase.

As for availability, this is not a very encouraging sign. Looks like I'm going to have to wait by the entrance tomorrow morning. At least it'll be nice outside...

True. That's what I usually end up paying for new games. Forza 3 and Mass Effect 2 were both $70 when I bought them, although Uncharted 2 was only $60. Seems almost random sometimes. Thankfully, FFXIII is $60, and so is my other March purchase.

As for availability, this is not a very encouraging sign. Looks like I'm going to have to wait by the entrance tomorrow morning. At least it'll be nice outside...

lol i thought we got the same march purchases going on... you got battlefield for PC too don't you? (what's your battlefield name? add you go to some games going... (mines johnblaze00) *end of thread hijack*)

(we're both going to be broke this month....)

Yup, I'm definitely going broke this month. This has been a damn good start to the gaming year for sure (Y) .

[Thread Hijack]My BC2 username is LingeringSoul (PC, of course). I'll add you next time I'm on (probably sometime this evening). [/Thread Hijack]

finally decided on the PS3 edition last night, didnt want to deal with disk swap.

Not that it matters much now but from what I've heard you can install to HDD and not bother swapping.

Ordered the 360 version at 10am from Play.com, dispatched already apparently. Hopefully it'll be here tomorrow but I'm not sure what their delivery times are like. It was ?35 last time I checked, when I went to order it had gone up to ?40 again! :s

"The game's story is contained sequentially on the discs, so swapping discs will only be required once every 15-20 hours and only two times total."

That doesn't seem that bad to me? I would do a full install anyway for better performance.

Not that it matters much now but from what I've heard you can install to HDD and not bother swapping.

Ordered the 360 version at 10am from Play.com, dispatched already apparently. Hopefully it'll be here tomorrow but I'm not sure what their delivery times are like. It was ?35 last time I checked, when I went to order it had gone up to ?40 again! :s

Yeah, but you need over 20GB free remember :cool:

I think it will have to be PS3 version for me as I've only got a 20GB HDD on my 360, plus I've read the textures etc are much better on the PS3 version due to no compression.

"The game's story is contained sequentially on the discs, so swapping discs will only be required once every 15-20 hours and only two times total."

That doesn't seem that bad to me? I would do a full install anyway for better performance.

I don't think installing makes that much difference to be honest. That said, it does take away having to swap discs (not that it's a huge issue)

Crap. Well I didn't want to install it anyway. :p

When the NXE debuted I installed Orange Box and that's about it. Like you said, with a 20GB HDD you're kinda stuck.

:laugh: If the disc swaps are every 15-20 hours I don't think it's a major concern. If you only own a 360 then you don't really have a choice if you want to play. I think if you own both a PS3 and 360 the choice is an easy one.

:laugh: If the disc swaps are every 15-20 hours I don't think it's a major concern. If you only own a 360 then you don't really have a choice if you want to play. I think if you own both a PS3 and 360 the choice is an easy one.

I have a PS3 and 360, but I went with the 360 version because I don't care about trophies. I am addicted to working on my acheevos :)

I have a PS3 and 360, but I went with the 360 version because I don't care about trophies. I am addicted to working on my acheevos :)

:laugh:

Fair enough. I'm not that bothered about trophies either but the PS3 version is the better version technically - well according to sites like Digital Foundry and the like. That information, along with it only being 1 disc made it easier for me to decide the format.

I was just thinking to myself "surprised nobody's mentioned achievements."

It'll be interesting to see sales figures of PS3 XIII vs. 360 XIII. It'll be even more interesting to see if it'll persuade SE to bring another Final Fantasy to the 360. I don't care much about XIV but Versus XIII or even some unannounced game would be nice :)

i thought you had to swap disks regardless, thats the whole 360 DRM when isntalling to hard drive.

got the 250GB hdd anyway so size isnt a concern. but also seemed rez was better with the PS3

Not that it matters much now but from what I've heard you can install to HDD and not bother swapping.

i thought you had to swap disks regardless, thats the whole 360 DRM when isntalling to hard drive.

got the 250GB hdd anyway so size isnt a concern. but also seemed rez was better with the PS3

Apparently, with the last NXE update, Microsoft has given the publisher the option to install multiple disk games with out the need to have to swap the disk (though disk one is still required to be present). You can do this in Mass Effect 2 for example. Someone had mentioned on another forum that it was an option for FFXIII as well. I have no confirmation of that though. The only thing I have seen is where people have installed all 3 disks to the HDD and reported back the size of each disk. They didn't mention anything about disk swapping.

So, because of games like GoW III, ME2, BFBC2, and Heavy Rain, this is probably the first year I've seen a main FF game get so little fanfare. They really did make a bad decision releasing this in March

there are millions of square fans. most of them would buy it regardless of the day it's released...

there are millions of square fans. most of them would buy it regardless of the day it's released...

not trying to expand beyond your core base sounds like stupid marketing to me.

look how many people bought ME2, BFBC2, and are going to buy GOW3 without having played the previous iterations before

not trying to expand beyond your core base sounds like stupid marketing to me.

look how many people bought ME2, BFBC2, and are going to buy GOW3 without having played the previous iterations before

with the rep final fantasy games have... not much advertising needs to be done...

Apparently, with the last NXE update, Microsoft has given the publisher the option to install multiple disk games with out the need to have to swap the disk (though disk one is still required to be present). You can do this in Mass Effect 2 for example. Someone had mentioned on another forum that it was an option for FFXIII as well. I have no confirmation of that though. The only thing I have seen is where people have installed all 3 disks to the HDD and reported back the size of each disk. They didn't mention anything about disk swapping.

Interesting, it didn't happen to me during ME2, I still had to swap even with both installed. Would be convenient if it was true.

Where were the square fans for Infinite Undiscovery :( I really like that game actually.

Fixed :p I quite enjoyed it too.

Anyway, back on topic, apart from the low quality hair which is pretty noticeable (nit-picking :p), the linearity is becoming annoying especially the narrow passage ways with enemies in the way, makes it difficult dodging them.

Currently 6 hours in.

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