From the Steve Jobs Theater, here is the iPhone X

Apple has finally taken the wraps off the highly anticipated iPhone X with a bezel-less edge-to-edge screen and a bunch of new features.

The iPhone X (pronounced ten) or iPhone 8 as it was referred to in numerous leaks and rumours, has certainly managed to grab a lot of attention over the last year or so, and now the bezel-less smartphone has finally been revealed by Apple at the first ever launch event at the Steve Jobs Theater.

With the iPhone X, Apple has now launched 10 generations of the iPhone and has introduced a new design after recycling the iPhone 6 look for the last three years. The iPhone X is quite possibly the biggest iPhone update in a long time.

The device packs a 5.8-inch OLED screen with a 2436x1125 resolution that translates to 458 pixels per inch. It is the most pixel dense display from Apple ever. The display features TrueTone colors, HDR Vision and Dolby HDR for a great viewing experience. As the new iPhone does not have a home button, Apple has introduced gestures to operate iOS on the device. In order to go back to the home screen, a swipe up gesture from the bottom is introduced. For multitasking, users will need to swipe up and pause till the tabs show up.

Another big change in the iPhone X is the facial recognition system, FaceID instead of TouchID. FaceID works with Apple Pay and a variety of third-party apps. Apple has added a TrueDepth camera for FaceID and has bragged about its accuracy. In order to use the facial recognition technology, the user needs to be paying attention to the camera. The company has promised that the system cannot be fooled by masks or images.

The processing of all facial images is done on the iPhone itself using the powerful A11 Bionic neural engine. No data is stored on the iPhone or any servers, but is processed in real-time.

Animoji is yet another feature introduced with the iPhone X that makes use of the TrueDepth camera. With this feature, users can created animated emoji with sound and emotions captured from the front camera. While it seems a bit gimmicky, the tech definitely is advanced from what we have seen in the demo.

The cameras on the iPhone X are similar to the iPhone 8 Plus with the addition of dual-OIS and the advanced front camera. On the iPhone X, users will be able to capture Portrait Lighting selfies similar to what the rear camera is capable of.

Similar to the iPhone 8 duo, the iPhone X also supports Qi wireless charging and will be getting a dedicated charging accessory called AirPower by next year.

The iPhone X is priced from $999 onwards and comes in two storage configurations viz. 64 GB and 256 GB just as the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus. Pre-orders for the iPhone X will begin on October 27 and shipping will begin on November 3.

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Lol, this is so silly! Now Apple invented Face iD and now they have the first OLED good enough for an iPhone.

And it failed onstage! Haha..

Are people stupid enough to fall for this?

Lol, this is so silly! Now Apple invented Face iD and now they have the first OLED good enough for an iPhone.

And it failed onstage! Haha..

Are people stupid enough to fall for this?

I thought that was a silly comment by Apple as well. You mean the screens that had a less than acceptable yield rate, are now "good enough?" Classic Apple spin.

Lol, this is so silly! Now Apple invented Face iD and now they have the first OLED good enough for an iPhone.

And it failed onstage! Haha..

Are people stupid enough to fall for this?

He did show that it works more than once after the fact. Presentation issues happen sometimes; just look at Nadella's use of Cortana.

I'm also not about to give him crap for introducing features for iPhone that users have been requesting. Either you want them or you don't. Crucifying them for delivering makes no sense... default_ermm.gif

He did show that it works more than once after the fact. Presentation issues happen sometimes; just look at Nadella's use of Cortana.

I'm also not about to give him crap for introducing features for iPhone that users have been requesting. Either you want them or you don't. Crucifying them for delivering makes no sense... default_ermm.gif

So you don't find it infuriating, how they claim they created it and they said nothing about users requesting the features. And when have iPhone users requested face unlocking?

The Apple fanclub on Neowin sure didn't seem to want that feature when Microsoft and Samsung introduced it in their products years ago.

As for failing onstage tha. The same fanclub claim that doesn't happen during Apple presentations.

Lol, this is so silly! Now Apple invented Face iD and now they have the first OLED good enough for an iPhone.

And it failed onstage! Haha..

Are people stupid enough to fall for this?

YES! There is no other device in the world that will recognize you based on your face. No PCs or gaming consoles or laptops or tablets. Certainly, this has never been done before on a Phone!

Crucifying them for delivering makes no sense... default_ermm.gif

The only reason anyone "crucifies" Apple is because of the comments they make. For instance, the whole "OLED good enough for an iPhone." Then the quote from the great one about going where the puck will be and not where it was.

@circaflex: to be fair, OLED tech in phones has been rough for awhile. Look at all of the early galaxy's. Hell look at the S5 or S6. People report burn in, etc issues within a year or two with these phones.

Apple's phones usually last 4-5 years with software updates and hardware alone. I know someone still using a 5S from launch day, no work has been done to it yet. So yes, they make these comments because the tech is good enough to be in 100+ million phones and last a long time without issues. They also added the touch to the top and made it thinner. Only thing Ive seen samsung do is make it curve.

He did show that it works more than once after the fact. Presentation issues happen sometimes; just look at Nadella's use of Cortana.

I'm also not about to give him crap for introducing features for iPhone that users have been requesting. Either you want them or you don't. Crucifying them for delivering makes no sense... default_ermm.gif

So you don't find it infuriating, how they claim they created it and they said nothing about users requesting the features. And when have iPhone users requested face unlocking?

The Apple fanclub on Neowin sure didn't seem to want that feature when Microsoft and Samsung introduced it in their products years ago.

As for failing onstage tha. The same fanclub claim that doesn't happen during Apple presentations.

Presentation issues happen for everyone, thats a fact. I would take TouchID > FaceID any day. At least FaceID is better than Windows hello and Samsuns BS Iris scanning that can be faked by a photo.

He did show that it works more than once after the fact. Presentation issues happen sometimes; just look at Nadella's use of Cortana.

I'm also not about to give him crap for introducing features for iPhone that users have been requesting. Either you want them or you don't. Crucifying them for delivering makes no sense... default_ermm.gif

So you don't find it infuriating, how they claim they created it and they said nothing about users requesting the features. And when have iPhone users requested face unlocking?

The Apple fanclub on Neowin sure didn't seem to want that feature when Microsoft and Samsung introduced it in their products years ago.

As for failing onstage tha. The same fanclub claim that doesn't happen during Apple presentations.

First off, I have an S7 Edge so let's not write off a narrative just because of a disagreement. Secondly, if all they offered was facial recognition to unlock a phone, I would not be impressed. If they are able to successfully read facial mapping though, that not even masks can replicate, then I'm not sure how you or others would consider that to be the same.

Do they need to acknowledge every time a feature has been requested? That's up to you, but for me, if I've been asking for OLED screens, wireless charging, more capacity, etc, and I GET it, why would I complain? How they said it is kind of irrelevant to me, unless they're misleading me into buying a product that does NOT do what it says. That's where I begin to have an issue.

Understand that while I do value your opinion, I say all this mostly because everyone that I sold a phone/tablet/PC to a few years back not once mentioned who did what "first", Steve Jobs, and so on. That is just something we techies argue about, not the general public.

@circaflex: to be fair, OLED tech in phones has been rough for awhile. Look at all of the early galaxy's. Hell look at the S5 or S6. People report burn in, etc issues within a year or two with these phones.

Apple's phones usually last 4-5 years with software updates and hardware alone. I know someone still using a 5S from launch day, no work has been done to it yet. So yes, they make these comments because the tech is good enough to be in 100+ million phones and last a long time without issues. They also added the touch to the top and made it thinner. Only thing Ive seen samsung do is make it curve.

You do know Samsung is starting to make Apple IPhone screens right?

Lol, this is so silly! Now Apple invented Face iD and now they have the first OLED good enough for an iPhone.

And it failed onstage! Haha..

Are people stupid enough to fall for this?

Other devices have facial recognition e.g Windows Hello. No one said they were first just they might actually create something that works well like Touch ID.

Finger print sensors were around for years on laptops and they were rubbish. Touch ID works great. I hope that face ID will be the same. Samsung has done it as well on the phone but it can faked with a photograph, so not very secure.

@circaflex: to be fair, OLED tech in phones has been rough for awhile. Look at all of the early galaxy's. Hell look at the S5 or S6. People report burn in, etc issues within a year or two with these phones.

Apple's phones usually last 4-5 years with software updates and hardware alone. I know someone still using a 5S from launch day, no work has been done to it yet. So yes, they make these comments because the tech is good enough to be in 100+ million phones and last a long time without issues. They also added the touch to the top and made it thinner. Only thing Ive seen samsung do is make it curve.

Most Apple buyers are conditioned to spend more and upgrade yearly or at most 2. The devices are built with obsolescence and zero repair ability. They can afford this with their obscene prices and profit margins.

@circaflex: to be fair, OLED tech in phones has been rough for awhile. Look at all of the early galaxy's. Hell look at the S5 or S6. People report burn in, etc issues within a year or two with these phones.

Apple's phones usually last 4-5 years with software updates and hardware alone. I know someone still using a 5S from launch day, no work has been done to it yet. So yes, they make these comments because the tech is good enough to be in 100+ million phones and last a long time without issues. They also added the touch to the top and made it thinner. Only thing Ive seen samsung do is make it curve.

I don't know man, my Zune HD is still kickin w/o any screen burn-in. Bought it in 09/09

Face recognition fail, the guy on stage couldn't log in default_smile.png. Had to resort to passcode!

it was the same as touchID, when the phone is restarted you have to use the passcode. It's been the same since touchID first came in. So the phone he tried to use said you had to login with passcode before using faceID, exactly the same. He probably just didn't realise in the heat of the moment doing the presentation so went to a backup.

Face recognition fail, the guy on stage couldn't log in default_smile.png. Had to resort to passcode!

I think this was a setup screw up up by Apple as it prompted him for the passcode. It does this after the device has been restarted. Does same with Touch ID currently.

He switched to a 2nd phone.

Someone may get fired for this as was not the best starts to a new system.

He didn't use the passcode, he used the backup phone that worked. Did you actually watch anything or just complaining for no reason like everyone else?

Or the sensor failed enough times so that it needed to be activated again. (Which is also the case with touchID). People have also noticed that the guy presenting wiped of his face before he tried again.

Oh, that front looks like an Android phone. They blew up the iconic home button ... Also, that shade makes it even look like Essential's PH-1

Oh, that front looks like an Android phone. They blew up the iconic home button ... Also, that shade makes it even look like Essential's PH-1

Yes because Samsung already has phones (plural) that has the same and/or are better technology and services. Plus, the front looks the same because Samsung makes their screens.

Yes because Samsung already has phones (plural) that has the same and/or are better technology and services. Plus, the front looks the same because Samsung makes their screens.

I didn't deliberately used Samsung's S8/+ and Note8 because those phones are more gorgeous looking that the X. X resembles Essential's PH-1 in that sense. Sorry, if you thought I am trying to downplay Samsung. As of now, Samsung is in its own league

Looks... like a phone. I'm more interested in the OS, UI and features.

Half the people I know who have iPhones immediately put them in some bulky case anyway.

Interesting that you used the term "Windows Hello": on the phone it uses Iris recognition not facial one; the latter is available on Surface devices.

That's because Windows Hello is a full biometrics platform that supports face / iris / fingerprint forms of identification. In other words, Microsoft supports options while Apple picks a different ditch.

The latter is also supported on other Win10 PCs that have compatible hardware attached, including Kinect 2.0 for Xbox One.

Qi Charging = yes. People still don't use it.

Windows Hello = Nope. Iris Scanning

No physical home button = yup, still has huge bezels

Today I learned that I am not "people" apparently. Part of the reason I got rid of my iPhone 7 for an S8 was wireless charging. It is a pain fumbling around in the dark trying to put a phone precisely on a dock at night rather than just laying it down/leaning it.

I also have a wireless charger built in to my desk so my 950 and S8 were nearly always charged. My iPhone would often run low on battery which forced me to charge it every night.

Windows Hello = Yep. Iris Scanning, Facial Recognition, and Fingerprint readers are all part of the Windows Hello platform. I also noticed they said that the Face ID will have trouble distinguishing between twins and even similar looking family members. Windows Hello can distinguish between twins.

It looks like the iPhone X ticks enough boxes to bring me back to iOS this year. I was really hoping for a 120hz screen and maybe a little higher resolution for mobile VR though.

Qi Charging = yes. People still don't use it.

Windows Hello = Nope. Iris Scanning

No physical home button = yup, still has huge bezels

You sound like a typical iSheep specimen. Yes nobody used wireless charging until now because Apple hadn't "invented" it yet.

Also, did you miss the part where the phone came out three years ago? The world has been moving to thinner and thinner bezels, while up until today, the iPhone had the thickest most ugliest bezel on any flagship phone. In fact, their regular model still does.

Qi Charging = yes. People still don't use it.

Windows Hello = Nope. Iris Scanning

No physical home button = yup, still has huge bezels

iSheeps are so ignorant.

Heck even cars have wireless charging for phones today and IKEA launched furnitures with wireless charging built-in in years ago. And you claim no one is using wireless charging?

Everyone was so concerned over where the TouchID sensor would be and they blew it up. Looks neat imo, but I'd prefer to not have a small portion of my video covered up by the sensors/cameras. This is easily fixable though if apps can just blacken the area where the clock and system stats go, leaving the rest for a clean screen without the black tab.

Everyone was so concerned over where the TouchID sensor would be and they blew it up. Looks neat imo, but I'd prefer to not have a small portion of my video covered up by the sensors/cameras. This is easily fixable though if apps can just blacken the area where the clock and system stats go, leaving the rest for a clean screen without the black tab.

These are Apple people. They've spent 30 years not caring about losing pixels for the bizarre aesthetic obsession with rounded corners on every Apple display. This is just another case of sacrificing pixels on the altar of design.

These are Apple people. They've spent 30 years not caring about losing pixels for the bizarre aesthetic obsession with rounded corners on every Apple display. This is just another case of sacrificing pixels on the altar of design.

I think the sensor bar is necessary and they did a great job making it small. I would take this over the ###### placement of the camera on the Mii 2/3 and XPS 13/15 with bezels that are also as big or bigger than the top bar of the new iPhone

I think the sensor bar is necessary and they did a great job making it small. I would take this over the ###### placement of the camera on the Mii 2/3 and XPS 13/15 with bezels that are also as big or bigger than the top bar of the new iPhone

My issue with the sensor bar is it getting in the way of videos. Looks kinda obnoxious, but maybe that changes in time with the product.

I think the sensor bar is necessary and they did a great job making it small. I would take this over the ###### placement of the camera on the Mii 2/3 and XPS 13/15 with bezels that are also as big or bigger than the top bar of the new iPhone

Sorry to burst your bubble but they did not. It's big ass and in your face, unlike the inconspicuous one on the Essential phone. Really a shame that a newbie company did a better job with their first model than the world's most popular phone in its tenth iteration. It looks ugly as hell but that's nothing new for the iPhone. Instead of innovating like the Mi Mix, they just took the easy way out of cramming everything into the top bar. Moreover, they compromised TouchID for something that DOES NOT EVEN WORK HALF THE TIME!

Waiting for the Face ID to be cracked/compromised. It is bound to happen. And infrared, I don't see that being used much unless it is something to do with your job. Like an electrician/home builder.

Waiting for the Face ID to be cracked/compromised. It is bound to happen. And infrared, I don't see that being used much unless it is something to do with your job. Like an electrician/home builder.

But, but, they used masks that Hollywood made!

And they didnt mention, "We did this because we couldnt figure out how to do the under-the-glass fingerprint tech, so you get this instead."

Waiting for the Face ID to be cracked/compromised. It is bound to happen. And infrared, I don't see that being used much unless it is something to do with your job. Like an electrician/home builder.

TouchID wasn't that easy and it wont be fooled by a picture. Excited to see if it can be broken into

The iPhone X (pronounced ten)

LOL yeah, good luck with that. Just like how nobody ever says "OS X" like three letters instead of two letters and a number.

The iPhone X (pronounced ten)

LOL yeah, good luck with that. Just like how nobody ever says "OS X" like three letters instead of two letters and a number.

I have never heard anyone call it OS Ten; always OS X. I think for the iPhone, they'll call it 10, iPhone X just doesn't have a nice ring to it.

the only practical innovation they come with its wireless charging, otherwise thee emoticons just a childish way. unless you pay it for your child to enjoy this innovation (according to apple)

"...now the bezel-less smartphone has finally been revealed…"

It isn't bezel-less if there is a cutout and a bezel.

"...now the bezel-less smartphone has finally been revealed…"

It isn't bezel-less if there is a cutout and a bezel.

Exactly! What's with this re-defining of bezel to mean curved glass edge?! We don't care about the faceplate being bezel-less, we care about the SCREEN being bezel-less. And I see a nice black border everywhere.

This Galaxy Note 4 retread has enough Android features to sell on their own. It doesn't need to invent BS definitions to pretend to accomplish something they didn't/couldn't.

Not bad, wish they didnt bother with the the 8 though, just have the one latest iphone you could buy 10 years ago

It is pretty weird to be announcing the iPhone 8 and iPhone 10 at the same time..

Yeah the problem for me, is i'd see the iphone 8 and think thats nice, then next to it will be the X which will look better and UK price difference (roughly) is only £150 compared to iphone 8+

so I can see the 8+ not selling as much as it normally would

the 8's should of been released this year, if they really had to launch two new phones.

Yeah the problem for me, is i'd see the iphone 8 and think thats nice, then next to it will be the X which will look better and UK price difference (roughly) is only £150 compared to iphone 8+

so I can see the 8+ not selling as much as it normally would

the 8's should of been released this year, if they really had to launch two new phones.

Actually scrap that, obviously the GBP to US is £1 for $1 it's £999 what the!

iphone 8+ it is then

I'm really impressed by the processors & cameras though.

News sites have been claiming they're even comparable with Intel in benchmarks, and this new chip really seems to handle some really cool AI/Neural processing, high definition AR gaming, etc. so smoothly, I'm very impressed, probably one of the best chips in the market.

I'm not too sure of the camera but they seem to be talking a lot of fancy AI backed stuff for portraits & video. default_hmm.gif

Also the new face recognition system seems to be really impressive and hard to bypass(though we'll have to see how it compares to Windows Hello or Samsung).

That cutout is ugly, distracting, unnatural. Really hope it does not start a trend. Ah, the vertical camera is ugly too. The swipe to home is available for jailbroken devices since at least 6 years. Overall not impressed at all. When the star of the show are the emoji you know something is wrong.

That cutout is ugly, distracting, unnatural. Really hope it does not start a trend. Ah, the vertical camera is ugly too. The swipe to home is available for jailbroken devices since at least 6 years. Overall not impressed at all. When the star of the show are the emoji you know something is wrong.

Not a fan of it, but prefer it more than Essential at least

That cutout is ugly, distracting, unnatural. Really hope it does not start a trend. Ah, the vertical camera is ugly too. The swipe to home is available for jailbroken devices since at least 6 years. Overall not impressed at all. When the star of the show are the emoji you know something is wrong.

It's not a vertical camera.

It's a horizontal camera, you're just holding it wrong. Vertical video is a travesty that needs to die, just like those who shoot that way.

That cutout is ugly, distracting, unnatural. Really hope it does not start a trend. Ah, the vertical camera is ugly too. The swipe to home is available for jailbroken devices since at least 6 years. Overall not impressed at all. When the star of the show are the emoji you know something is wrong.

It reminds me of the top branding on the Motorola RAZR M series.

Seriously not a fan of the fat bezel, if you blur your eyes a little, it looks like a normal phone with a bumper attached.

Seriously not a fan of the fat bezel, if you blur your eyes a little, it looks like a normal phone with a bumper attached.

Yes, i noticed that too. The screen is stretching down quite low but the bezels on the sides of the screen make it look a lot less "bezel-less" then for instance the Mi Mix or S8. Looks a bit like the essential. Presentation was quite laughable. Way to much use of the word "amaaaazing" for pointing out features present in other phones for the past years.

Might feel differently when I see one up close but not a fan of the glass back personally, I prefer the matte metal finish of the 6.

Also so many times I press the home button at an arm stretch - with no face by the camera - I think that's going to be quite annoying having to get up close for a scan and quite jarring/ridiculous looking.

Will be interesting to see what happens with naming in the future. Will it be iPhone 9 and iPhone 11?

Ugh. I'm so frustrated. First off, I don't think this phone is that revolutionary. But that's not my biggest problem. My biggest problem is now I have to spend a $1000 on a phone I really don't care for.

Why? Because to prove to everyone that "I'm the Best" I have the buy the most expensive iPhone they make; that's why. I mean, what if my mom or my friends buy the "X" and I buy the "Poor Man's" iPhone, the new iPhone 8. How embarrassing would that be.

Well, I guess I should stop complaining and start thinking of excuses as to why I have to be out of work for about 3 days (so I can be in line for the new iPhone a couple days before it launches of coarse.) I think I'll use the "I think I got West Nile" excuse this time.

Ugh. I'm so frustrated. First off, I don't think this phone is that revolutionary. But that's not my biggest problem. My biggest problem is now I have to spend a $1000 on a phone I really don't care for.

Why? Because to prove to everyone that "I'm the Best" I have the buy the most expensive iPhone they make; that's why. I mean, what if my mom or my friends buy the "X" and I buy the "Poor Man's" iPhone, the new iPhone 8. How embarrassing would that be.

What car do you own? :0

Saw many features my Lumia 1520 from 2013 has. QI charging for one. Tap to wake for another. Live pictures they introduced LAST YEAR that Lumia had WAY before that. As per usual, I was left underwhelmed.

I did enjoy some choice comments from the man himself. And iirc:

"the worlds most used heart rate monitor" - really? i find that one hard to believe when talking about the Apple Watch

"this is not a filter, its an analysis of the picture you took to apply the changes you need" - erm is that not what a filter does in essence?

Too many others to list because this old man's hands will cramp up soon enough. I do like their products but they are over-hyped and there is nothing new here to see. (Other than the removal of 32GB phones but no corresponding increase to free icloud storage forcing you to pay more or do local backups instead.

I did enjoy the 4K HDR demo of Spiderman which was of zero relevance to a lot of people I am sure because we arent streaming 4K HDR video to watch this *lol*

Greatest things ever? No. The best things of the last few years is what you finally put in your phone.

Saw many features my Lumia 1520 from 2013 has. QI charging for one. Tap to wake for another. Live pictures they introduced LAST YEAR that Lumia had WAY before that. As per usual, I was left underwhelmed.

I did enjoy some choice comments from the man himself. And iirc:

"the worlds most used heart rate monitor" - really? i find that one hard to believe when talking about the Apple Watch

"this is not a filter, its an analysis of the picture you took to apply the changes you need" - erm is that not what a filter does in essence?

Too many others to list because this old man's hands will cramp up soon enough. I do like their products but they are over-hyped and there is nothing new here to see. (Other than the removal of 32GB phones but no corresponding increase to free icloud storage forcing you to pay more or do local backups instead.

I did enjoy the 4K HDR demo of Spiderman which was of zero relevance to a lot of people I am sure because we arent streaming 4K HDR video to watch this *lol*

Greatest things ever? No. The best things of the last few years is what you finally put in your phone.

The photography part may actually be useful. This actually uses dual cameras to better analyse the scene in 3D than 2D(depth analysis), then adds the lighting/effects based on that. (unlike static filters)This is becoming more common in dual cameras phones to create better portraits.

Nothing close to a mid range point and shoot or DSLR, but better than ordinary smartphones I understand.

One new feature of the iPhones, they support the European GPS system, Galileo and Japanese system QZSS. Probably give better accuracy using lower power.

None of what they call "Features" are really "features"
Super Retina...unless you have super vision, you won't notice it
No home "button"...other manufacturers ditched that long ago, not "new"
The "build"...every smartphone is a rectangular slab of metal, plastic and glass.
Face ID...can't wait for that to be SLOW, and HACKED
Animogi...LMAO
Camera...meet the NEW boss, same as the OLD boss
Portrait mode...YEAH!!! more selfies!!! LOL
A11 chipset....WOW! BENCHMARK dreamers!!! Nothing like having a 700HP engine, and you are stuck going 30mph
Battery Life...LOL, battery savers make it seem like you get longer battery life. Good luck with the OLED sucking it up
Wireless Charging...nothing like being LATE to the party, and, NOT even having YOUR OWN CHARGER stand ready.

So, to sum it up, the "iconic" new iphone, is nothing more than last years model, with racing stripes, and a HIGHER price.

None of what they call "Features" are really "features"
Super Retina...unless you have super vision, you won't notice it
No home "button"...other manufacturers ditched that long ago, not "new"
The "build"...every smartphone is a rectangular slab of metal, plastic and glass.
Face ID...can't wait for that to be SLOW, and HACKED
Animogi...LMAO
Camera...meet the NEW boss, same as the OLD boss
Portrait mode...YEAH!!! more selfies!!! LOL
A11 chipset....WOW! BENCHMARK dreamers!!! Nothing like having a 700HP engine, and you are stuck going 30mph
Battery Life...LOL, battery savers make it seem like you get longer battery life. Good luck with the OLED sucking it up
Wireless Charging...nothing like being LATE to the party, and, NOT even having YOUR OWN CHARGER stand ready.

So, to sum it up, the "iconic" new iphone, is nothing more than last years model, with racing stripes, and a HIGHER price.

But let us not forget that in every point that you make above, Apple have "done it right"....lol

As expected people are on here about Apple doing stuff that others have had for ages. True, Apple is behind. However, those that really know Apple this is their DNA, they take existing tech and do it better or more right I shall say,

Ill take what naap51stang said for example


No home "button"...other manufacturers ditched that long ago, not "new" Except that others except maybe Samsung still have Bezels and others have reimplemented software UI buttons. Apple is using Gestures
The "build"...every smartphone is a rectangular slab of metal, plastic and glass. Apple is using a design dated to iPhone 6 sure, but no need to reinvent the wheel everytime. Take the iMac or Macbook Pro, those were not really redesigned for almost 8 years.
Face ID...can't wait for that to be SLOW, and HACKED Samsungs already was hacked, Apple using way more tech in theirs. People like you said the same thing with Touch ID and... still waiting to see how slow and if it was hacked
Animogi...LMAO Not for everyone, I don't use Emojis, but these are fun and a new creative expression
Camera...meet the NEW boss, same as the OLD boss They always have good cameras
Portrait mode...YEAH!!! more selfies!!! LOL

Wireless Charging...nothing like being LATE to the party, and, NOT even having YOUR OWN CHARGER stand ready. So what, people complained when they didn't have it, now you complain that they do. Apple is one of the few companies with the marketing to push Qi tech forward. Sure Samsung and others have had it for ages, but have the really done much to push the tech forward?

I ditched my iPhone for a Pixel last year, but sometimes you just have to realize Apple is a company that waits for Tech to get better before being first to the party and they push the industry forward. Yeah the price is crazy and might be out of reach for most people, but its a Premium product. Google can't even put a product of their own out right now to this caliber, Samsung really is the only one

As expected people are on here about Apple doing stuff that others have had for ages. True, Apple is behind. However, those that really know Apple this is their DNA, they take existing tech and do it better or more right I shall say,

Ill take what naap51stang said for example


No home "button"...other manufacturers ditched that long ago, not "new" Except that others except maybe Samsung still have Bezels and others have reimplemented software UI buttons. Apple is using Gestures
The "build"...every smartphone is a rectangular slab of metal, plastic and glass. Apple is using a design dated to iPhone 6 sure, but no need to reinvent the wheel everytime. Take the iMac or Macbook Pro, those were not really redesigned for almost 8 years.
Face ID...can't wait for that to be SLOW, and HACKED Samsungs already was hacked, Apple using way more tech in theirs. People like you said the same thing with Touch ID and... still waiting to see how slow and if it was hacked
Animogi...LMAO Not for everyone, I don't use Emojis, but these are fun and a new creative expression
Camera...meet the NEW boss, same as the OLD boss They always have good cameras
Portrait mode...YEAH!!! more selfies!!! LOL

Wireless Charging...nothing like being LATE to the party, and, NOT even having YOUR OWN CHARGER stand ready. So what, people complained when they didn't have it, now you complain that they do. Apple is one of the few companies with the marketing to push Qi tech forward. Sure Samsung and others have had it for ages, but have the really done much to push the tech forward?

I ditched my iPhone for a Pixel last year, but sometimes you just have to realize Apple is a company that waits for Tech to get better before being first to the party and they push the industry forward. Yeah the price is crazy and might be out of reach for most people, but its a Premium product. Google can't even put a product of their own out right now to this caliber, Samsung really is the only one

HAHA "do it better or more right?" you do realize that is more opinion than fact eh? Go troll somewhere else. Truths are hard to swallow sometimes, that it is a fact there is very little new here that someone else has not done already. All you do above is exactly what they said during the event. You are just trying to find creative ways to describe something that makes it seem "new" or "different".

HAHA "do it better or more right?" you do realize that is more opinion than fact eh? Go troll somewhere else. Truths are hard to swallow sometimes, that it is a fact there is very little new here that someone else has not done already. All you do above is exactly what they said during the event. You are just trying to find creative ways to describe something that makes it seem "new" or "different".

Troll...You did read that Im using a Pixel right.. I dumped Apple last year.

Swipe up to go home, but swipe up and pause to bring up the recent apps. Swipe up then left to switch to the last app you had open, and swipe up and hold briefly and swipe right to get to Siri. Swipe up to the top, then down half-way to bring up the split screen multi-tasking menu. Swipe up to the top, then down half-way and hold to get the menu allowing you to switch to other screens on the phone. Swipe down then to the left to bring up the options menu, and swipe down, hold for a second then swipe right to turn the phone off (or bring up the turn off phone slider widget.) Swipe from the left side then down to the bottom then up half-way to bring up the Safari browser.

Reminds me of this classic commercial from years gone by:
http://www.theonion.com/video/...y-new-laptop-with-no--14299

that cut out looks really strange. i'd like to see it showing a full screen video in landscape mode, would the video wrap around it or just stop and leave black on that side?

that cut out looks really strange. i'd like to see it showing a full screen video in landscape mode, would the video wrap around it or just stop and leave black on that side?

I was just going to point this out, looks like you beat me to it! default_smile.png

I bet most Apple users will just say you're holding it wrong, you need to watch videos in portrait mode only. default_tongue.png

Hmm nothing groundbreaking yet Apple always claim it is and people will pay $999 and $1149 for it. Facepalm. They should've priced it as $5000 and $10000 and people would've still paid for it.

So let me make sure I understand this. The only things I gave Apple credit for over the years was making good looking products and security/privacy. I've had other objections that keep me from buying their products (mostly the obscene profit margins Apple maintains) however those do not play into this observation. While this phone seems to fall short for me on the design , that's a subjective thing and I'm sure plenty will not agree, fair enough, it's the security that bothers me. I'm not doubting how well FaceID will work. As far as it's function, it must be as secure as TouchID or the banks would have bailed on Apple Pay.

My problem is now law enforcement simply has to show you your own phone to unlock it. Pass-codes and fingerprints presented a something you have or something you know barrier. You can refuse to enter the code or use the incorrect finger but FaceID? All they need to do is swipe and point the phone at you. That seems like a big step back in terms of overall privacy. Does anyone else see this an a issue?

So let me make sure I understand this. The only things I gave Apple credit for over the years was making good looking products and security/privacy. I've had other objections that keep me from buying their products (mostly the obscene profit margins Apple maintains) however those do not play into this observation. While this phone seems to fall short for me on the design , that's a subjective thing and I'm sure plenty will not agree, fair enough, it's the security that bothers me. I'm not doubting how well FaceID will work. As far as it's function, it must be as secure as TouchID or the banks would have bailed on Apple Pay.

My problem is now law enforcement simply has to show you your own phone to unlock it. Pass-codes and fingerprints presented a something you have or something you know barrier. You can refuse to enter the code or use the incorrect finger but FaceID? All they need to do is swipe and point the phone at you. That seems like a big step back in terms of overall privacy. Does anyone else see this an a issue?

Even though they've enabled that "5 click the lock button to secure" feature I won't be enabling face recognition on the X once I get it.

I will get this next year when the entire front is screen real estate without the odd looking cut-out at the top.

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